With all the recent kidnappings and beheadings over the release of female combatants -- should we negotiate for the release or stay hard line. I am for the hardline NO negotiation tactic.
These guys that are going over are being paid extremely well for their services and know exactly what they are getting into. The only negotiation stance we should take is given 'em up or we'll kill all of you.
I did hear something that on ABC news that I had never heard before. The terrorist have taken the stance that anyone who attempts to negotiate for the hostages return will be killed. Apparently a couple Muslim clerics that tried to talk them into not killing the hostages where in turned murdered themselves. Wonder how long before they really piss off their own people and find themslves on the end of some sharp knives? Its already happened in some parts of Iraq.
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To whom it may concern, anyone that goes over there to work and doesn't pack heat is not the sharpest tool in the toolshed, IMHO.
I interviewed with KBR and would not go to work with them because as a truck driver I would not be allowed to carry a weapon and if I am going to work in a war zone I want to be armed.
These fellas were not armed an kidnapped out of thier house in Baghdad, from what I heard. They probably were paid well, but no gun, no worky as far as I'm concerned.
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They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"
I'm a diplomatic sorta guy. I'd tell 'em - "You release the hostages, and I won't drop this MOAB on your home village. Your choice."
First hostage they kill, I'd fry a village. Hard times, fellas, hard times.
Roll a couple of heads Al-Jazeera's way on the evening news.... :jaw:
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No Taxes...
No Debt...
Plenty Buffalo...
Plenty beaver!
Women did most of the work.
Medicine Man free!
Indian men hunted and fished all the time!
White man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.
The time is coming for us to rid ourselves of this scourge. The scourge is in this country and the rest of the planet. As I said in an earlier post, I think the Russians should kill a 100,000 Chechens every time they pull one of their strikes. We need to start thinking of who is responsible and start eliminating them. It's time to get someones attention.
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We shouldn't negotiate for their lives. It'll only prolong the terrorists belief that they can make bargains resulting in even more innocent people being beheaded. It's pathetic when we view those doomed to die as they beg and plead for their lives. It's like watching a person cry for mercy just before they're tortured to death. Those bastads terrorists!
I'm not even sure that carrying heat by those working would prevent being kidnapped. Some captives were ambushed either through violence with superior firepower or by a sudden attack when least expected.
Big Dog has the solution I like best. Use those MOAB's after announcing to the terrorist's which site is next. Keep eliminating them one by one till our point is made.
if the united states was smart they would put some sort of tracking device inside of a prisoner. they can drug him and insert it with out him knowing that way when they do come up with this type of thing they can go ahead and release him and track him. and if they do keep thier word and give up the hostage well good if not well maybe the guy they release will lead them too some body. if they don't release the hostage then all we have to do is drop a bomb on the location of where the signal is comin from and the prisoner is a dead man and maybe a few more terrorist.
I agree that it's time we take a VERY hard stance with those radical idiots.....and anyone like them anywhere.
I posted in another thread, and I STILL believe it, the US and allied intelligence groups, with their extensive networking and local sources, have to know who these extremists are and where they are (just like I equally believe they know where bin Laden is).
It's time to go after them.
I think the US thinking is if they do go after them it might spur more satelite groups into jumping on the radical bandwagon and then they (we) will have more to contend with than what we do right now.
But....I say....it's worth the chance...find 'em....eliminate them by beheading via dull knife!
Yepper......fer sure!
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The Election's coming soon...Bin Laden should be caught or found dead soon...
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When white man found this land, Indians were running it.
No Taxes...
No Debt...
Plenty Buffalo...
Plenty beaver!
Women did most of the work.
Medicine Man free!
Indian men hunted and fished all the time!
White man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.
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It is a savage and unfogiveable act to murder a helpless victum. But, they are cowards, they hide thier faces from view. It's clear they know thier actions are wrong. But, yet they persist. They all deserve to die. Rave has a good idea. Maybe a few of thier innocents and the remainder will be willing to give these savage over to us. But, alas, even if they did, we'd have to give them a trial...waste time and resources on them. Get them lawyers...feel thier pain. Rave is right, if we are at war, and I think we are, let's get to it. Finish off the rabble even if we have to kill every last one.
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i still say i would try wounding a few of them and while i have them in the hospital i would put some sort of trackin device in them.hell if we can put one so small into a little fish we can put one inside a person without them knowing. then let the word out that one of thier guy's is alive and in jail. before you know it they will be wanting to work some kind of a deal .sure they might still kill the hostage but thier guy might just lead us right to the one we want.then we can drop the bomb on the whole place .