[SexyRedXterra]

OK so I was filling out my absentee ballot this morning, and I noticed that someone was running for some position from the US Marijuana Party. I had to look it up on-line.

Who would have thought--there's an actual party for this?

http://www.usmjparty.com/

The irony of it all is that they're endorsing Kerry for President.

[7mmag6]

Check out loretta the pres, she looks like she could suck the chrome off a trailor hitch

[SexyRedXterra]

You really have to wonder about people who make this their "cause."

[Shaun]

Just a bunch of Liberal Drug Attics

[Oxford]

Yep...just a bunch of pucker mouth airhead lame brain washed out dummed down weed puffing red eyed stupid brained dirty mouthed brainwashed liberals. :nod:

[silentknight]

Thats a mouthfull, but I like it, I'm gonna have to remember that

[Oxford]

Use it with every marijuana smoking pucker mouth airhead lame brain washed out dummed down weed puffing red eyed stupid brained dirty mouthed brainwashed liberal that you see. :insane:

Ox

[dhermesc]

Sounds like the list of adjectives I used when refering to Herr Klinton.

[PAPA G]

Quote:       Originally Posted by 7mmag6

Check out loretta the pres, she looks like she could suck the chrome off a trailor hitch

man ya gotta be stoned to let that puss near

Quote:       Originally Posted by SexyRedXterra

You really have to wonder about people who make this their "cause."

it's one of my causes...I don't smoke marijuana..but I don't think it ought to be illegal

Quote:       Originally Posted by Logansdad

Hemp as public enemy #1 Hemp was the first plant known to have been domestically cultivated. The oldest relic of human history is hemp fabric dated to 8,000 BC from ancient Mesopotamia, an area in present-day Turkey. It has been grown as long as recorded history for food, fuel, fiber, and for another legitimate use, which is not even discussed here for the sake of brevity medicine. So, with all these uses and benefits, why is cannabis cultivation illegal in the United States today? Here is a brief history of cannabis prohibition: Hemp was a primary source of paper, textile, and cordage fiber for thousands of years until just after the turn of the 20th century. It was at this time that companies like DuPont first developed chemicals that enabled trees to be processed into paper. DuPont's chemicals made wood pulp paper cheaper than paper made from annual crops like hemp. At the same time Wm. Randolph Hearst, the owner of the largest newspaper chain in the United States, backed by Mellon Bank, invested significant capital in timberland and wood paper mills to produce his newsprint using DuPont's chemicals. DuPont also developed nylon fiber as a direct competitor to hemp in the textile and cordage industries. Nylon was even billed as synthetic hemp. DuPont was also manufacturing chemical pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers useful in the cotton industry, another hemp competitor. Mellon Bank, owned by U.S. Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon, was also DuPont's primary financier. Mellon's niece was married to Harry Anslinger, deputy commissioner of the federal government's alcohol prohibition campaign. After the repeal of Prohibition, Anslinger and his entire federal bureau were out of a job. But Treasurer Mellon didn't let that happen. Andrew Mellon single-handedly created a new government bureaucracy, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, to keep his family and friends employed. And then he unapologetically appointed his own niece's husband, Harry Anslinger, as head of the new multimillion dollar bureaucracy. At the same time, a machine was developed that was to hemp what the cotton gin was to cotton: it allowed hemp's long, tough fiber to be mass processed efficiently and economically for the first time. Popular Mechanics, in February 1937, predicted hemp would be the world's first "Billion Dollar Crop" that would support thousands of jobs and provide a vast array of consumer products from dynamite to plastics. This potential rejuvenation of hemp was a major threat to Secretary Mellon's friends and business associates, especially Randolph Hearst with his wood paper industry and Lammont DuPont with his petrochemical and synthetic fiber conglomerates. After all, hemp farmers wouldn't need DuPont's chemicals to grow their hemp because the crop is self-sufficient. The hemp-based ethanol fuel that was mentioned in the Popular Mechanics' article probably didn't sit too well with the oil companies of the time. They also couldn't have been too thrilled to learn that this same plant produced high-strength plastics without a petroleum base. The hemp-based plastics developed at the time were stronger and lighter than steel, which we can imagine wasn't the best news for the steel industry. In addition, the growing pharmaceutical companies were producing synthetic drugs to replace natural medicines. Hemp extract was used for thousands of years to effectively treat everything from epileptic fits to rheumatoid arthritis. Chances are, hemp's resurgence wasn't good news for these drug companies either. What we see is that the potential revival of the hemp industry was a threat to almost all the corporate giants of the time, and Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon was at the top of this food chain. So Commissioner Anslinger, Mellon's appointee, begins researching rumors that immigrants from Mexico are smoking the flowers of the hemp plant. Racism was rampant at the time, and there was a government movement to curb the number of immigrants crossing the U.S. border at Mexico. Anslinger plugged into the racist sentiment, and began referring to the "hemp" that Americans knew cannabis to be, as "marijuana," the Mexican slang word for the plant. He labeled it as a "narcotic" even though cannabis flowers cannot cause narcosis, and spread exaggerated stories and outright lies that Mexicans and blacks became violent and disrespectful to whites when they smoked the "evil menace marijuana." This slander of cannabis was all just fine for Anslinger's friends, the Mellons, the DuPonts, and the Hearsts. In fact, Hearst's newspapers picked up on the propaganda and fueled the fire by publishing hundreds of lurid stories about people raping and murdering while under the influence of marijuana. The sensationalism sold lots of newspapers, and the people of the country actually based their opinions on this one-sided information. Of course the stories never mentioned the hemp that people used everyday as rope, paper, medicine, and more. The stories always referred to cannabis by the Mexican slang word, marijuana. With the moral and prohibitive fervor of the time duly stirred, Anslinger took his show to Congress. At the proceedings of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, Anslinger didn't mention that marijuana was hemp. And because anti-marijuana propaganda didn't mention that basic fact, hemp industries found out almost too late about the effort to criminalize cannabis cultivation. Testimony was heard from the full gamut of hemp companies and advocates, from birdseed suppliers to cordage manufacturers, from farmers to physicians, all touting hemp's importance in American history and the many industrial, agricultural, medicinal, and economic benefits of cannabis. Only after their testimony, was the wording of the bill changed to allow for the continued legal cultivation of industrial hemp. Anslinger even backed off on hemp prohibition in a very cunning maneuver. After the Act was passed, Anslinger single-handedly usurped congressional power by mandating hemp prohibition. He justified his action by saying that his agents couldn't tell the difference between industrial hemp and marijuana in the field, so hemp cultivation made enforcement of marijuana prohibition impossible. This unconstitutional usurpation of congressional law is still in effect today as the Department of Justice and the DEA still cling to Anslinger's unjust and unjustifiable prohibition on domestic hemp cultivation. Hemp for victory With the United States entering World War II only four years after hemp's prohibition, and the synthetic fiber industry still in its infancy, the armed forces experienced a dangerous shortage of fiber for the war effort. In 1942, the U.S. government performed a convenient about-face on the hemp issue. The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) produced and distributed a motion picture called "Hemp for Victory" in which the federal government not only promoted the many uses of cannabis hemp, but also detailed the most efficient cultivation and harvesting methods. The picture pronounced, "Hemp for mooring ships! Hemp for tackle and gear! Thread for shoes for millions of American soldiers! And parachute webbing for our paratroopers! Hemp for Victory!" By the end of the war, hemp was no longer needed for strategic purposes and synthetic fiber was being produced more efficiently and abundantly than ever. The same soldiers that hemp had supplied with ship's rigging, rope, tackle, gear, shoes, and parachutes turn against their recent ally. The Marines themselves, armed with flame-throwers, and Air Force pilots in crop dusters are ordered to destroy the same million acres of hemp that were recently planted for the war effort. These actions were the beginning of the modern war on marijuana, or more correctly, the modern war on cannabis, including non-drug hemp. http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et0199/et0199s11.html

you've got to be seriously whacked out on some heavy duty chronic to support Kerry though

[Oxford]

Logansdad...you could be right...but still...I'm opposed to legalizing pot. A thread on this subject was throughly discussed earlier so I'll leave each to their own views. I doubt if anyone would change their stands on this issue no matter what was said here.

Quote:       Originally Posted by Oxford

I'm opposed to legalizing pot.

we could just grow hemp as a cotton substitute and drive down the costs of clothing

[whirlwind]

lower clothing costs would be good. especially since everyone i know that smokes pot cant hold a job long enough to have enough money to buy clothes for their kids.

Well the good news is that they will not likely have the motivation to really get anything accomplished.

[whirlwind]

on this subject i believe you and i are united (if im not mistaken?) lenny. you are opposed ti legalizing it arent you? i cant remember the past posts you offered on this subject.

[ruger22com]

shes got my vote (But kerry does not)

[Rev.Timothy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by whirlwind

lower clothing costs would be good. especially since everyone i know that smokes pot cant hold a job long enough to have enough money to buy clothes for their kids.

These drug users managed to do okay for themselves. My own kids are well fed, have nice clothes, and go to a good school as well.

Maybe if you closed your mouth and opened your mind........

Isaac Abrams, artist LSD
Tim Allen, actor, comedian "Home Improvement", "The Santa Clause" cocaine
Richard Alpert (also known as Baba Ram Das), psychologist, author, guru LSD
Lewis Daniel Armstrong, musician ("Satchmo") marijuana
Allen Atwell, artist LSD
Marcus Aurelius, philosopher, emperor of Rome opium
Ginger Baker, musician amphetamines
Tallulah Bankhead, actress cocaine
Marion Barry, mayor of Washington, D.C. cocaine, alcohol
Charles Baudelaire, poet absinthe
The Beatles, musicians marijuana, LSD
John Belushi, comedian, actor marijuana, heroin, cocaine
Sarah Bernhardt, actress cocaine
Elizabeth Barrett Browning, poet opium
Lenny Bruce, comedian, free speech activist marijuana, heroin
William S. Burroughs, historian, author: "Naked Lunch", "I, Claudius" cocaine, opium
Lewis Carrol, mathematician, photographer, author: "Alice in Wonderland" mushrooms
Winston Churchill, British prime minister alcohol
Grover Cleveland, U.S. president cocaine
William Clinton, U.S. president "Well, I did smoke pot, but I didn't inhale. And I was in England, so it really doesn't count. Plus, no-one saw me. So what's the big fuss? The half million people arrested for pot last year are just sore losers." (If you got locked up for a few decades, you would be too.) marijuana
Jean Cocteau, playwrite: "Orpheus" opium
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, poet: "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" opium (laudanum)
Wilkie Collins, author: "The Moonstone" opium
David Crosby, Musician, founding member of "The Byrds" and "Crosby, Stills and Nash" marijuana, cocaine
Aleister Crowley, magician, author: "Magick Without Tears", "Moonchild", "The Book of Thoth", "Diary of a Drug Fiend", "Theory of Magick" EVERYTHING
Salivor Dali, painter "Everyone should eat hashish, but only once." hashish
Thomas DeQuincy, author: "Confessions of an English Opium-Eater" opium (laudanum)
Charles Dickens, author: "A Christmas Carol", "Oliver Twist" opium
Arthur Conan Doyle, logican, author: "Sherlock Holmes" (a cocaine user) opium
Isadora Duncan (revolutionized dance) cocaine
Thomas Alva Edison, inventor, industrialist cocaine, alcohol
Havelock Ellis, physician, author: "Psychology of Sex", essay: "Mezcal: A New Artificial Paradise" peyote
Carrie Fisher, Actress, screenwriter prescription drugs
Ben Franklin, inventor, publisher, scientist, American statesman opium, marijuana
Peter Fonda, actor marijuana, LSD
Sigmund Freud, physician, "Father of Psychoanalysis" cocaine
Jerry Garcia, musician (with The Grateful Dead), philospher, spiritual consultant to Jefferson Airplane, religious leader LSD, marijuana, heroin
Newt Ginrich, Speaker of the Senate "See, when I smoked pot it was illegal, but not immoral. Now, it is illegal AND immoral. The law didn't change, only the morality. That's why you get to go to jail and I don't. Any questions?" Yes, does he really believe himself? marijuana
Al Gore, U.S. vice-president "My work on the environment is so important that I can't take the time off to go to jail for something so trivial as marijuana. But its okay with me if you go." (Insensitive snot) marijuana
Ulysses S. Grant, U.S. president cocaine, alcohol
Grateful Dead, musicians marijuana
Jimi Hendrix, musician, singer, legendary guitar player LSD, heroin
Albert Hoffman, chemist, discovered LSD and became a proponant LSD
Billie Holliday, singer opium
Dennis Hopper, actor marijuana
Aldous Huxley, author: "Brave New World", "Island", "Doors of Perception" mescaline
William James, physician, philosopher nitrous oxide, ether, peyote
Jefferson Airplane/Starship, musicians maijuana
Thomas Jefferson, U.S. president, inventor, architect, marijuana farmer marijuana
Steve Jobs, co-creator of the Apple computer, the NeXt computer, and former head of Apple Computers, Inc. marijuana, LSD
Janis Joplin, singer heroin, alcohol
Stacy Keach, actor (Mike Hammer) cocaine
John Keats, poet opium
Ken Kesey, author: "One Flew Over the Coo-Coo's Nest", "Once a Great Notion"
* Mr. Kesey's personal correction: I only had him down for LSD, to which he commented that someone not willing to try anything, is not a real truth-seeker, but only a dilatant. EVERYTHING*

Archibald Leach (actor Cary Grant) LSD
Timothy Leary, psychologist, Father of Transactional Analysis, software author: "Mindwheel". "Turn on, tune in, drop out." LSD, marijuana
Donovan Leich, musician LSD, marijuana
Pope Leo XIII cocaine
John Cunningham Lilly, physician, scientist (electronics, dolphin communication, sensory deprivation), philosopher, author: "Mind of the Dolphin", "Center of the Cyclone" LSD, ketamine

Bela Lugosi, actor opium, morphine
Bob Marley, musician "The Father of Reggae Music" marijuana
Judge Marquat, Arizona Supreme Court Justice, involved in Miranda ruling. marijuana
Joseph McCarthy, U.S. Senator opium
Joni Mitchell, Musician Marijuana
Wier Mitchell, physician, author: "Injuries of the Nerves and their Consequences" peyote
Mohammed, spiritual leader hashish
Marcia Moore, Sheraton Hotel heiress, author: "Hypersentience", Journeys into the Bright World" LSD marijuana, ketamine
Jim Morrison, lead singer for The Doors cocaine, alocohol, LSD, marijuana
Mothers of Invention, musicians LSD, marijuana
Willi Nelson, musician marijuana
Jack Nicholson, actor marijuana, LSD
Stevie Nicks, singer cocaine
Philippus Aureolus Paracelsus, Father of Modern Medicine opium
Pablo Picasso, painter, "The smell of opium is the least stupid smell in the world." opium
Plotinus, Roman philosopher, 205-270 AD opium
Edgar Allen Poe, poet, author: "The Raven", "The Fall of the House of Usher" opium
Jackson Pollack, painter (His work sold for up to $8,000,000 a piece.) alcohol
Cole Porter, composer cocaine
Elvis Presley, singer, actor prescription drugs
Richard Pryor, actor, comedian cocaine
Cardinal Duc de Richelieu, leading minister to king Louis XIII opium
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, U.S. president alcohol
Sir Walter Scott, poet, author opium
Shelly, poet opium
Arlene Sklar-Weinstein, artist LSD
Robert Louis Stevenson, author cocaine, morphine
The Rolling Stones (reputed to be the greatest rock-and-roll band in the world) marijuana, LSD
Desmond Taylor, film director cocaine
Clarence Thomas, U.S. Supreme Court Justice "I was smart enough to use pot without getting caught, and now I'm on the Supreme Court. If you were stupid enough to get caught, that's your problem. Your appeal is denied. This 40 year sentence just might teach you a lesson." Clearly, a hateful man. marijuana
Vincent Van Gogh, painter absinthe, camphor
Jesse Ventura, wrestler, governor of Minnesota marijuana
Jules Verne, author: "The Time Machine", "War of the Worlds", "2,000 Leagues Under the Sea" cocaine
George Washington, U.S. president, marijuana farmer marijuana (sensimilla)
Allen Watts, Zen philosopher, masters degree in religion, doctorate in divinity, author: "The Joyous Cosmology", "Zen Sticks, Zen Bones", "The Taboo against Knowing Who You Are", "The Wisdom of Insecurity". LSD, marijuana, mescaline, psilocybin, dimethyl-tryptamine (DMT), alcohol
Andrew Wiel, physician, psychopharmicologist, anthropologist, fire-walker, alternative health expert, author: "The Natural Mind", "Spontaneous Healing", "8 Weeks to Optimum Health" marijuana, peyote, yage (S. American hallucinagin)
William Wilberforce, almost singlehandedly got slavery abolished throughout the British Empire

[Oxford]

That's absolutely proof positive that drugs are bad. All those losers screwed up their lives with drugs. Thanks for reminding me again who they are. Just imagine what they might have accompished if their minds hadn't been clouded with drugs.

[Shaun]

Tim most of your examples are dead or either on thier way to an early death -- they have health problems and have learned the hardway and are having to go straight -- I bet all to heavy drug user started with MJ as their gateway drug to the hard stuff. I spent 3 years as a LEO DRE and every one of my arrests for heavy narcotics told me MJ was how they got thier start.


Drug use leads to one solution -- early death