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Old 10-24-2004, 08:40 AM   #1
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Question 10/22 rifle or carbine ?

When the Ruger 10/22 rifle was introduced in 1964, it forever changed the way shooters viewed 22 rimfire autoloaders. The 10/22 represented a design revolution in a field where pre-World War II designs were still the rule. The trigger housing subassembly contains the entire firing mechanism, including a high-speed, pivoted hammer for short lock time. The barrel is locked into the receiver by a unique two-screw V-block system. The 10/22 also pioneered Ruger’s now-familiar rotary magazine, considered by many to be the most dependable 22 magazine ever invented. This flush mounted, high-impact polymer, rotary magazine gives the Ruger 10/22 a clean appearance and comfortable feel. All 10/22s feature a convenient cross-button safety.

Sleek, perfectly balanced, rugged, and superbly accurate, the 10/22 has sold in the millions. This is not surprising. The Ruger 10/22 looks right, feels right, and shoots right, inspiring fierce loyalty from its owners. Perhaps that’s why you see so few used 10/22's for sale; shooters don’t readily give them up. The Ruger 10/22 is a lightweight, reliable, moderately priced rifle that is built to perform under demanding use. For that reason, it has become a standard among small-game hunters, plinkers and competitive target shooters, where speed and accuracy are paramount.

10/22 LR Rifles:
Ruger offers a range of choices for the popular 10/22 LR rifle. The 10/22 Standard features a hardwood stock and a blued or stainless steel barrel. The 10/22 RPF features a rugged checkered synthetic stock with a grip cap and a blued or stainless steel barrel. The Deluxe Sporter features a top-quality checkered American Walnut stock with sling mounts and a blued or stainless barrel. The 10/22 International features a full-length checkered hardwood stock with a grip cap and a blued or stainless steel barrel. The 10/22 Target Model features a wood laminate stock and a full-contour hammer-forged target barrel, in blued or stainless steel. All 22 LR Models are drilled and tapped for a scope base adapter, included with each rifle.

10/22 Magnum Rifles:
The Ruger 10/22 Magnum rifle offers rugged features like solid steel receivers, which are machined to accept Ruger scope rings. The Ruger scope mounting system allows for rigid mounting directly to the steel receiver. Ruger scope rings are included free with each 10/22 Magnum rifle.
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Old 10-24-2004, 08:46 AM   #2
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STURM, RUGER INTRODUCES
THE NEW RUGER 10/22® RIFLE

January 16, 2004

Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc., (NYSE: RGR) the nation’s largest firearms manufacturer, announced today the introduction of the new Ruger 10/22 Rifle. Based upon the popular Ruger 10/22 Carbine first introduced in 1964, the Ruger 10/22 Rifle features an entirely new stock design, a twenty-inch tapered barrel with a new front sight ramp and an improved scope base adapter. The 10/22 Rifle will appeal to those who appreciate the outstanding performance and value found in all Ruger 10/22’s, but prefer the look and feel of a rifle rather than a carbine.

The Ruger 10/22 Rifle features a restyled stock that shoulders quickly and is light and easy to handle. The new stock is slimmer, with an increased length of pull and a tapered forend consistent with rifle styling. A flat, synthetic buttpad replaces the curved carbine-style buttpad found on the Ruger 10/22 Carbine, and the barrel band featured on Carbine models has been eliminated on the 10/22 Rifle.

The Ruger 10/22 Rifle includes a twenty-inch tapered barrel that features a sleek new blade front sight blade designed for easy target acquisition. For shooters who prefer today’s advanced optical sights, the 10/22 Rifle includes a new combination scope base adapter that accepts both 22 tip-off and Weaverstyle accessory mounts.

“The new Ruger 10/22 Rifle is specifically designed to appeal to the shooter who wants the proven features and performance found in our Ruger 10/22 Carbines but prefers the look and feel of a rifle. Those familiar with the Ruger 10/22 will enjoy the handling characteristics of the Ruger 10/22 Rifle as well as its new styling,” said Sturm, Ruger & Company President, Stephen L. Sanetti.

Introduced in 1964 as “the ultimate in logical design,” the 10/22 is the standard by which all other rimfire rifles are judged. Ruger 10/22’s have a legendary reputation for their innovative rotary magazine design, excellent reliability, and outstanding value. With over four million sold to date, the Ruger 10/22 is one of the most enduring firearm designs ever created.

The Ruger 10/22 Rifle will be available to customers beginning in late March 2004.

Ruger 10/22® Rifle Autoloading Rimfire Rifle – 22LR Model Number 1159
Catalog Number 10/22RR
Action Autoloading
Operation
Blow-back
Construction Aircraft-grade aluminum receiver & trigger housing with alloy steel
components
Finish Blued steel and black powder-coated aluminum alloy
Caliber 22 Long Rifle
Barrel Material Blued alloy steel
Barrel Length 20”
Rifling One turn in 16 ” RH
Magazine Capacity
10 rounds
Safety
Cross-bolt safety
Sights Ramped blade front sight, adjustable folding rear sight
Stock
Satin finished rifle-style hardwood stock with checkered buttplate
Length of Pull
14”
Drop at Comb
1-5/8”
Drop at Heel
2 1/2”
Overall Length
38 1/2”
Weight Unloaded
5 Lbs (approximately)
Standard Accessories
Instruction manual, black high-impact synthetic 10-shot rotary magazine, new combined Weaver & 22 tip-off scope base adapter, gun lock.
Suggested Retail Price

$275.00
Sturm, Ruger is the nation’s leading manufacturer of high-quality firearms for recreation and law enforcement, and a major producer of precision steel and titanium investment castings components for consumer industries. Sturm, Ruger is headquartered in Southport, CT, with plants and foundries located in Newport, NH and Prescott, AZ.


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Old 10-24-2004, 12:50 PM   #3
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I got my Wal-Mart Special 10-22 Rifle a couple years ago, for about $179. Same stock as the Deluxe model, though in Birch. The 22-inch barrel is stainless, with the silver receiver and trigger group.
I like the feel and look of the heftier Rifle better than the Carbine model. Functionally, they are identical and use the same parts, escepting barrel and stock. Accuracy is what we expect from a 10-22 - okay but easily improvable.
I would have really preferred a blued finish, but stainless was the only choice.
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Old 10-24-2004, 03:46 PM   #4
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I hadn't realized that they had come out with a rifle until I saw this thread. So off to Wally world I went. The Carbine was priced at $189.00, with a blued barrel. The rifle was $208.00, with a stainless steel barrel. I hadn't really thought about buying a .22 rifle, but now hmmmmm.

Does anybody have any range info on the rifle versus the carbine, ie accuracy and range?
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Old 10-24-2004, 04:16 PM   #5
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Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc., (NYSE: RGR) the nation’s largest firearms manufacturer, announced today the introduction of the new Ruger 10/22 Rifle. Based upon the popular Ruger 10/22 Carbine first introduced in 1964, the Ruger 10/22 Rifle features an entirely new stock design, a twenty-inch tapered barrel with a new front sight ramp and an improved scope base adapter. The 10/22 Rifle will appeal to those who appreciate the outstanding performance and value found in all Ruger 10/22’s, but prefer the look and feel of a rifle rather than a carbine.

The Ruger 10/22 Rifle features a restyled stock that shoulders quickly and is light and easy to handle. The new stock is slimmer, with an increased length of pull and a tapered forend consistent with rifle styling. A flat, synthetic buttpad replaces the curved carbine-style buttpad found on the Ruger 10/22 Carbine, and the barrel band featured on Carbine models has been eliminated on the 10/22 Rifle.

The Ruger 10/22 Rifle includes a twenty-inch tapered barrel that features a sleek new blade front sight blade designed for easy target acquisition. For shooters who prefer today’s advanced optical sights, the 10/22 Rifle includes a new combination scope base adapter that accepts both 22 tip-off and Weaverstyle accessory mounts.

“The new Ruger 10/22 Rifle is specifically designed to appeal to the shooter who wants the proven features and performance found in our Ruger 10/22 Carbines but prefers the look and feel of a rifle. Those familiar with the Ruger 10/22 will enjoy the handling characteristics of the Ruger 10/22 Rifle as well as its new styling,” said Sturm, Ruger & Company President, Stephen L. Sanetti.

Introduced in 1964 as “the ultimate in logical design,” the 10/22 is the standard by which all other rimfire rifles are judged. Ruger 10/22’s have a legendary reputation for their innovative rotary magazine design, excellent reliability, and outstanding value. With over four million sold to date, the Ruger 10/22 is one of the most enduring firearm designs ever created.

The Ruger 10/22 Rifle will be available to customers beginning in late March 2004
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Old 10-24-2004, 05:02 PM   #6
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you guys should be hittin up ruger for a cut, never had a 10/22 but now i think i'll start looking for one.

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Old 10-24-2004, 05:16 PM   #7
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The 10-22 is okay, but it's off-the-shelf accuracy isn't the best. My slightly older (late 90's) Marlin 60SB is more accurate, as are several much older .22 semis that I have. I wanted the 10-22 to use as a benchmark to compare the old rifles to a "new" one. It's real beauty is of course it's many after-market goodies available, to customize and improve it.
My Ruger was a disappointment when I got it, but after some "breaking in", it has improved. It'll shoot an honest one-inch group at fifty yards with ammo it likes. Reliability is good - but any SA will hiccup on occasion. If you buy one, before shooting, strip it and clean out the thick syrupy "storage oil" in the action. Use a very light oil or preferably a "dry lube". Keep it clean, including the magazines, and it'll be a reliable shooter. It will need a couple hundred hi-vels shot thru it to break it in - so get shootin'!
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Old 10-24-2004, 06:28 PM   #8
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So Big Dog are you saying that even with some breaking in the Marlin 60 is still a better shooter thatn the Ruger 10/22? Not trying to argue, but I'm starting to seriously think about a .22 now. I can can aford one or the other but not both. If you had to choose one, which would it be?
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Dallas, for straight out-of-the-box accuracy, the Marlin 60 is better! If you want a good shooter, and don't intend any major mods, it's the better rifle, IMHO. My Marlin 60SB (stainless barrel, birchwood stock) will whack a golfball 3 out of 5 times at the 110 yard berm. The Ruger isn't that good a shooter, unless you dump a lot of money and parts into it. The little Marlin just don't get no respect! It's a great value for the money.
I like both rifles, but if I had to have just one, I'd take the Marlin. The money saved will buy a brick or two of ammo too.
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:37 AM   #10
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The 10-22 cycles at such a rate that by the time it reaches 20", it's actually losing velocity because gas is escaping from the action. 18" is maximum, 16" is fine. Unless the rifle uses a different cyclic speed, there's no reason to get it over the carbine. It's actually a disadvantage.
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Old 10-25-2004, 12:23 PM   #11
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rifle, or carbine? who cares- everything except the reciever and a couple of pins are going to be replaced anyways.
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Old 10-30-2004, 08:39 PM   #12
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this one looks cool
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Old 11-12-2004, 10:23 AM   #13
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I want a 16" barrel.I can get one,butit is an ultra lite forfor weel over 100 bucks,I would like just a plain steel 16" barrel with sights at a reasonable price,don't know why the barrels are so long, at least give us an option for a compact shooter.
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Just whack it off and crown it - or a good 'smith could do it. Then put on your favorite red dot or scope - Voila!

With the silly AWB gone, we'll be seeing lots more modified 10-22's, with all the good toys!

Saw on RFC that the Steel Lips magazines are back in production, averaging around thirty bucks - less at some places. Might have to invest in a couple . . .
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Old 12-07-2004, 10:52 PM   #15
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you guys should be hittin up ruger for a cut, never had a 10/22 but now i think i'll start looking for one.
Troy, Seeing how you like to fiddle with costomizing cars, a 10/22 is right up your ally. You can find all kinds of stuff to trick it out. I even saw a kit that puts two of them together upside down so they feed from the top to look like an AA gun. Been thinking hard on that since the mag ban has been lifted. Be really cool with a couple a 50 rounders on top, er bottom, Oh whatever.
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