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NRAJOE 10-31-2004 08:21 PM

Thump...thump...thump...I ain't giving up my AK's....think whatever you want....

Thrawn 10-31-2004 08:38 PM

gotta find me first
 

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Originally Posted by NRAJOE
Thump...thump...thump...I ain't giving up my AK's....think whatever you want....

Me neither. I'm a law abiding citizen.....to a point.:nod: :right: :full:

BattleRifleG3 10-31-2004 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by steel_warrior1
I would buy a AR-15 then...

If you don't have the sense to go back and delete that post, I sure as heck hope the administrators do. And this one too when they get to it.

That's not funny, don't even joke about it. Tons of hell will come from such statements that none of us want to see. People saying such things on other forums have been arrested.

BattleRifleG3 10-31-2004 11:14 PM

The Streetsweeper was sort of an auto revolver, like the Mateba (unless I'm mistaken)

Revolvers thus far have not been considered semi-auto at all by fed law. Now that the ban is dead, there is no fed law that makes semi-autos different by manually operated arms except for importation or assembly from imported parts.

Kerry will get nowhere with confiscation. There's a reason 70 years of gun control has not had any confiscation for those with clean records. No one will clean up the bodies. Get the UN involved and that's another matter.

As far as what I'd get, I'd look to developing revolver rifles. I think it can be done, we just need to give it the attention it deserves. And possibly new cartridges to fit them. Probably a return to slow and heavy low pressure rounds for fast firing, and bolt actions for long shots.
I would also go for more pump/slide action arms.

All of this I would like to see happen WITHOUT any restrictions on semi-autos.

Despoiler 10-31-2004 11:24 PM

Kerry would define any firearm other than a musket as a semiauto.

11c_infantry 10-31-2004 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3
As far as what I'd get, I'd look to developing revolver rifles. I think it can be done, we just need to give it the attention it deserves. And possibly new cartridges to fit them. Probably a return to slow and heavy low pressure rounds for fast firing, and bolt actions for long shots.
I would also go for more pump/slide action arms.

There is historical presidents for such a firearm....the Colt M1855 Revolving Cylinder Rifle, for example. Here is a replica gun for those who don't know what I'm talking about: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=160750

Puckle Gun (1718)
In 1718, James Puckle of London, England, demonstrated his new invention, the "Puckle Gun," a tripod-mounted, single-barreled flintlock gun fitted with a multishot revolving cylinder. This weapon fired nine shots per minute at a time when the standard soldier's musket could be loaded and fired but three times per minute. Puckle demonstrated two versions of the basic design. One weapon, intended for use against Christian enemies, fired conventional round bullets, while the second variant, designed to be used against the Muslim Turks, fired square bullets, which were believed to cause more severe and painful wounds than spherical projectiles. The "Puckle Gun" failed to attract investors and never achieved mass production or sales to the British armed forces. One newspaper of the period observed following the business venture's failure that "those are only wounded who hold shares therein."
(from about.com)

11c_infantry 11-01-2004 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3
That's not funny, don't even joke about it. Tons of hell will come from such statements that none of us want to see. People saying such things on other forums have been arrested.

Very good point. I believe it would be considered a terroristic threat, and that's the last thing we need on a pro-gun forum. It not only could lead to real trouble for the person who wrote it, although I think we all know he wasn't serious, but it gives anti-gun types reason to say, "see, those gun owners are a menace to society". It should be deleted. I'll delete mine too when his is done.

Thrawn 11-01-2004 12:03 AM

shoot square bullets towards savages and heathens.
 

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Originally Posted by 11c_infantry

Puckle demonstrated two versions of the basic design. One weapon, intended for use against Christian enemies, fired conventional round bullets, while the second variant, designed to be used against the Muslim Turks, fired square bullets, which were believed to cause more severe and painful wounds than spherical projectiles.

You gotta love that 18th century science. :D :right: :cheer:

Troy 11-01-2004 12:22 AM

maybe im overreacting a little, but dont you think that all the forums to do with guns and anything related is being monitored? im betting that the moment something is posted it is logged somewhere for either immediate or later examination depending on the key words that they are searching for.

Thrawn 11-01-2004 12:33 AM

I would pretty much count on sites like this one being watched, but the again I could pretty much care less what the men in black watch.:D

BattleRifleG3 11-01-2004 12:45 AM

As I said, the revolver rifle needs more development. The problem in the past has been the forearm of the shooter being hit by lead or powder from the cylinder. What I think needs to be developed is a pump type system where the forend covers this area of the cylinder, and when pumped the other way, clears it and opens the cylinder in one motion of the hand. Another possibility is the fixed cylinder, a stationary forearm that practically covers the whole cylinder, and a rear loading port like on the Ruger Blackhawk. Any reason a DA revolver couldn't load the same way?

BattleRifleG3 03-06-2005 12:05 AM

Welp, Kerry ain't president, but I'd still like to see more pump and revolver rifles.


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