Speaker tells Palo Alto students that stripping can be lucrative

Doglips · 01-14-2005, 05:59 AM

Got to love Calf....stripping is a good job..useing Guns...saying the word God is evil......granted strippers can make some serious $$...just not so sure middle school students need to be told that its a great way to make a liveing....but as long as they eat tuffue...and dont say the pledge I guess its all good

Speaker tells Palo Alto students that stripping can be lucrative
BILEN MESFIN, Associated Press Writer

Thursday, January 13, 2005

(01-13) 16:55 PST SAN FRANCISCO (AP) --

School officials in Palo Alto are reconsidering their use of a popular speaker for an annual career day after he advised middle school students that they could earn a good living as strip dancers.

William Fried told eighth-graders at Jane Lathrop Stanford Middle School that stripping and exotic dancing could be lucrative career moves for girls, offering as much as $250,000 or more per year, depending on their bust size.

"It's sick, but it's true," Fried, president of Foster City's Precision Selling, a management consulting firm, told The Associated Press. "The truth of the matter is you can earn a tremendous amount of money as an exotic dancer, if that's your desire."

The school has asked Fried to give his 55-minute presentation, "The Secret of a Happy Life," for the past three years.

A tip sheet he distributes to students includes a list of 140 potential careers and areas of interest they can consider pursuing. Along with professions as accounting and nursing, the list offers such nontraditional suggestions as exotic dancing, stripping and acting as a spiritual medium.

He counsels students to experiment with a variety of interests until they discover their "life's purpose," something they love and excel in. The presentation and handout have been praised by students, school principal Joseph Di Salvo and others said.

Fried's presentation "helped me realize that my career choice should not be influenced by money," one student wrote in a thank-you letter. "It should be influenced by what we like and are good at."

But on Tuesday, some students asked Fried to expand on why he included "exotic dancing" on the list.

Fried spent about a minute answering questions, defining strippers and exotic dancers synonymously. He told students, "For every two inches up there, you should get another $50,000 on your salary," student Jason Garcia, 14, said.

"A couple of students egged him and he took it hook, line and sinker," said Di Salvo, who also said the students took advantage of a substitute teacher overseeing the session.

Di Salvo heard about the exchange when the mother of a student called him the next morning. She said she was outraged when her son announced that he was forgoing college for a career in a field he truly loves -- fishing -- and said she found Fried's handout even more disconcerting.

Di Salvo, who has since heard from another parent, said Fried's overall presentation is a positive one. The mention of exotic dancing and Fried's off-the-cuff remarks, however, have prompted him to consider barring the speaker from next year's career day.

The principal said he would send letters of apology home with students.

"It's totally inappropriate," Di Salvo said. "It's not OK by me. I would want my presenters to kind of understand that coming into a career day for eighth-graders."

School board member Mandy Lowell didn't expect Fried's comment to cause lasting damage but said the speaker didn't adhere to the message of achievement the district is trying to promote.

"I don't think that your natural or implant-inflated bust size is what our schools aim to nurture," she said. "My aspiration is not to have children in this district become exotic dancers."

District superintendent Mary Frances Callan did not immediately return two telephone calls seeking comment.

Despite the uproar, many students said Fried was the most inspiring speaker in a lineup that included a pilot, an attorney, a classical pianist and a journalist.

"He really focused on finding what you really love to do," said Mariah Cannon, 13.

Cannon also said she wouldn't want exotic dancing taken off Fried's list. Although parents might find it hard to hear, it's a legitimate career choice, she said.

Student Tom Marks, 13, said he found some of Fried's comments "weird and unnecessary" but still thinks he should return next year.

"I don't think he should have gone into all the details," he said. "I just got upset that he talked about it so much."

Fried, 64, said he does not think he offended anyone.

"Eighth-grade kids are not dumb," he said. "They are pretty worldly."

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On the Net:
J.L.S. Middle School: www.jls.palo-alto.ca.us

dhermesc · 01-14-2005, 07:31 AM

Why stop at stripping? He needs to tell the boys how good it is pimping, all you need is some hoes and b!tches and you one your way. I've never understood the purpose of "motivational speakers" at the corporate level, much less at the middle school level.

Shaun · 01-14-2005, 08:33 AM

Not shocked at all that's a major industry there just goes to show how left wing that state has become.

NorCalAshnjikov · 01-14-2005, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhermesc

Why stop at stripping? He needs to tell the boys how good it is pimping, all you need is some hoes and b!tches and you one your way. I've never understood the purpose of "motivational speakers" at the corporate level, much less at the middle school level.

Hmm, stripping is legal, pimping isn't.
Maybe he should mention producing porn, which is legal

NorCalAshnjikov · 01-14-2005, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun

Not shocked at all that's a major industry there just goes to show how left wing that state has become.

Suprisingly the state is not as "left wing" as you'd all like to think.
There is no shortage of republicans in california,
we even have a republican governor (and no , I didn't vote for that NAZI )

gunssb · 01-14-2005, 01:34 PM

yup - I'm with norcal. People love to bust on cali too much (I've been guilty of that too sometimes). Sure, we do have some crazy gun laws but we're not as tree huggy as we're made out to be.

Shaun · 01-14-2005, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCalAshnjikov

Suprisingly the state is not as "left wing" as you'd all like to think.
There is no shortage of republicans in california,
we even have a republican governor (and no , I didn't vote for that NAZI )

The Governator is a RHINO -- he is a dem when it comes to your gun rights.

Big Dog · 01-14-2005, 03:04 PM

Lots of good right-thinking folks in California. Problem is the UberLibs have a headlock on making the laws. They pretty much own LA, San Fran and the other dense population centers. It skews the political demographics badly.
The Governator still has to prove himself - but he sure beats The Gray One!
My only worry is that not-so-invisible umbilical cord leading back to Massuchusetts.

01-14-2005, 05:59 AM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	Speaker tells Palo Alto students that stripping can be lucrative Got to love Calf....stripping is a good job..useing Guns...saying the word God is evil......granted strippers can make some serious $$...just not so sure middle school students need to be told that its a great way to make a liveing....but as long as they eat tuffue...and dont say the pledge I guess its all good Speaker tells Palo Alto students that stripping can be lucrative BILEN MESFIN, Associated Press Writer Thursday, January 13, 2005 (01-13) 16:55 PST SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- School officials in Palo Alto are reconsidering their use of a popular speaker for an annual career day after he advised middle school students that they could earn a good living as strip dancers. William Fried told eighth-graders at Jane Lathrop Stanford Middle School that stripping and exotic dancing could be lucrative career moves for girls, offering as much as $250,000 or more per year, depending on their bust size. "It's sick, but it's true," Fried, president of Foster City's Precision Selling, a management consulting firm, told The Associated Press. "The truth of the matter is you can earn a tremendous amount of money as an exotic dancer, if that's your desire." The school has asked Fried to give his 55-minute presentation, "The Secret of a Happy Life," for the past three years. A tip sheet he distributes to students includes a list of 140 potential careers and areas of interest they can consider pursuing. Along with professions as accounting and nursing, the list offers such nontraditional suggestions as exotic dancing, stripping and acting as a spiritual medium. He counsels students to experiment with a variety of interests until they discover their "life's purpose," something they love and excel in. The presentation and handout have been praised by students, school principal Joseph Di Salvo and others said. Fried's presentation "helped me realize that my career choice should not be influenced by money," one student wrote in a thank-you letter. "It should be influenced by what we like and are good at." But on Tuesday, some students asked Fried to expand on why he included "exotic dancing" on the list. Fried spent about a minute answering questions, defining strippers and exotic dancers synonymously. He told students, "For every two inches up there, you should get another $50,000 on your salary," student Jason Garcia, 14, said. "A couple of students egged him and he took it hook, line and sinker," said Di Salvo, who also said the students took advantage of a substitute teacher overseeing the session. Di Salvo heard about the exchange when the mother of a student called him the next morning. She said she was outraged when her son announced that he was forgoing college for a career in a field he truly loves -- fishing -- and said she found Fried's handout even more disconcerting. Di Salvo, who has since heard from another parent, said Fried's overall presentation is a positive one. The mention of exotic dancing and Fried's off-the-cuff remarks, however, have prompted him to consider barring the speaker from next year's career day. The principal said he would send letters of apology home with students. "It's totally inappropriate," Di Salvo said. "It's not OK by me. I would want my presenters to kind of understand that coming into a career day for eighth-graders." School board member Mandy Lowell didn't expect Fried's comment to cause lasting damage but said the speaker didn't adhere to the message of achievement the district is trying to promote. "I don't think that your natural or implant-inflated bust size is what our schools aim to nurture," she said. "My aspiration is not to have children in this district become exotic dancers." District superintendent Mary Frances Callan did not immediately return two telephone calls seeking comment. Despite the uproar, many students said Fried was the most inspiring speaker in a lineup that included a pilot, an attorney, a classical pianist and a journalist. "He really focused on finding what you really love to do," said Mariah Cannon, 13. Cannon also said she wouldn't want exotic dancing taken off Fried's list. Although parents might find it hard to hear, it's a legitimate career choice, she said. Student Tom Marks, 13, said he found some of Fried's comments "weird and unnecessary" but still thinks he should return next year. "I don't think he should have gone into all the details," he said. "I just got upset that he talked about it so much." Fried, 64, said he does not think he offended anyone. "Eighth-grade kids are not dumb," he said. "They are pretty worldly." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the Net: J.L.S. Middle School: www.jls.palo-alto.ca.us

01-14-2005, 07:31 AM	#2
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,762	Why stop at stripping? He needs to tell the boys how good it is pimping, all you need is some hoes and b!tches and you one your way. I've never understood the purpose of "motivational speakers" at the corporate level, much less at the middle school level. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

01-14-2005, 08:33 AM	#3
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	Not shocked at all that's a major industry there just goes to show how left wing that state has become. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-14-2005, 03:04 PM	#8
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,208	Lots of good right-thinking folks in California. Problem is the UberLibs have a headlock on making the laws. They pretty much own LA, San Fran and the other dense population centers. It skews the political demographics badly. The Governator still has to prove himself - but he sure beats The Gray One! My only worry is that not-so-invisible umbilical cord leading back to Massuchusetts. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-14-2005, 01:34 PM	#6
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	yup - I'm with norcal. People love to bust on cali too much (I've been guilty of that too sometimes). Sure, we do have some crazy gun laws but we're not as tree huggy as we're made out to be.