MAS 49 cali legal ?

gunssb · 01-20-2005, 02:36 AM

is the MAS 49 49/56 cali legal ? was going thru some auction and one guy says he won't sell to cali - that one didn't have a grenade launcher, had a 10 round detachable mag but under the law it's only "evil" if had a detachable magazine AND one of the evil features right ??

If I see another "no sales to california" in an ad I'm gonna 1. yell 2. start shooting

hope this is the right forum...

Big Dog · 01-20-2005, 03:54 AM

Organise your buddies and start yelling loud and long in Sacremento! Enough "concerned citizens" working together can change stupid laws.

gunssb · 01-20-2005, 08:56 AM

:assult: unfortunately we are a minority - we'll have all the misguided moms protesting right back...back to my first question though - is it cali legal ? cos I see no reason why it shouldn't be...pistol grip ? no...grenade launcher ? no... folding stock ? no... flash hider ? no ...what am I missing ??

NRAJOE · 01-20-2005, 10:26 AM

The one without the grenade launcher SHOULD be Kali legal....

PAPA G · 01-20-2005, 10:35 AM

the state with the break open Ar-15. ya don't want all the drug gangs doing drive by grenading dontcha

!!!! Kanifornica, move to a state were there is still a modicum of commonsense. some place that is still American. like Guntucky Missori, Nevada, Alaska, Arizona and a host of others.

Gyrene · 01-20-2005, 10:50 AM

The MAS 49 49/56 was considered an Assault Weapon, in the configurations it had before the Assault Weapon Registration period ended (Dec. 31, 1999). It is possible to have the rifle altered to conform to being a NON-Assault Weapon, and get DOJ approval to allow sales in California. However if it is in California, and not registered, that could be big trouble for whoever has it! It would have to be physically located outside California and modified outside California to get the California DOJ approval. This was done with the Yugoslavian SKS, some FN-FALs (fixing the magazine so it can't be removed without tools), and now may have been done on the MAS 49 49/56. California is far and away the biggest gun market in the USA for it not to be profitable to make at least simple alterations, this market for guns can't be ignored, as there is too much money ready to be spent on firearms.

NO AK-47 (or knock-offs), or AR-15 Series, can be altered and be acceptable by the California DOJ, the DOJ is very specific about that! The FAB-10 and a single shot lower have been the only exceptions for altered AR-15 type weapons, that are acceptable to the California DOJ.

The California DOJ rules can be found at the following web site:

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/regagunfaqs.htm

gunssb · 01-20-2005, 12:09 PM

yeah I guess the one I was looking at has an integral grenade launcher too - too bad no one mods them to conform to CA standards...I want that MAS 49/56 so bad

I guess I'll just print out a photo and look at it when I feel like...is there a law against that too ? intent to possess an assault weapon or something ?

BattleRifleG3 · 01-20-2005, 12:38 PM

You may find an independent smith outside the state who would do the mods for you. I would if I had a license, it's simple enough, even if not pretty.

TULAver · 03-04-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gunssb

I guess I'll just print out a photo and look at it when I feel like...is there a law against that too ? intent to possess an assault weapon or something ?

Well, technically, they could get you for conspiracy for having the photo or even for your post here. They can stick you with conspiracy for whatever they BELIEVE you intend to do, regardless of your true intentions, and they just have to persuade the jury. Since there is absolutely NO WAY with our modern technology to truthfully assess someone's intent BEFOREHAND, I see the conspiracy charge as one of the greatest threats to law abiding citizens in the United States, because they have so much leeway with it.

It's a shame that we truthfully can be convicted of things we haven't even done yet, and have to fear talking about them- jokingly or otherwise.

I don't think the framers of the Constitution intended such a gross perversion of the judiciary to become commonplace.

Ever see Minority Report?

gunssb · 03-04-2005, 02:24 PM

yup - Minority Report sounds about right.
Ever see Demolition Man ? No one possesses arms in the future, everything is government controlled, no one knows what to do when there's crime, and you get tickets for saying "sh*t". Oh yeah, and all restaurants are taco-bells :insane:
Also, there's an Arnold Schwarzenegger prez library :insane:

01-20-2005, 02:36 AM	#1
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	MAS 49 cali legal ? is the MAS 49 49/56 cali legal ? was going thru some auction and one guy says he won't sell to cali - that one didn't have a grenade launcher, had a 10 round detachable mag but under the law it's only "evil" if had a detachable magazine AND one of the evil features right ?? If I see another "no sales to california" in an ad I'm gonna 1. yell 2. start shooting hope this is the right forum...

01-20-2005, 03:54 AM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,020 Trader Rating: (0)	Organise your buddies and start yelling loud and long in Sacremento! Enough "concerned citizens" working together can change stupid laws. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-20-2005, 10:26 AM	#4
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 18,999 Trader Rating: (0)	The one without the grenade launcher SHOULD be Kali legal.... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-20-2005, 10:35 AM	#5
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	Ask Gyrene, He Knows the state with the break open Ar-15. ya don't want all the drug gangs doing drive by grenading dontcha !!!! Kanifornica, move to a state were there is still a modicum of commonsense. some place that is still American. like Guntucky Missori, Nevada, Alaska, Arizona and a host of others.

01-20-2005, 12:38 PM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	You may find an independent smith outside the state who would do the mods for you. I would if I had a license, it's simple enough, even if not pretty. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-20-2005, 08:56 AM	#3
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	:assult: unfortunately we are a minority - we'll have all the misguided moms protesting right back...back to my first question though - is it cali legal ? cos I see no reason why it shouldn't be...pistol grip ? no...grenade launcher ? no... folding stock ? no... flash hider ? no ...what am I missing ??

01-20-2005, 10:50 AM	#6
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886 Trader Rating: (0)	The MAS 49 49/56 was considered an Assault Weapon, in the configurations it had before the Assault Weapon Registration period ended (Dec. 31, 1999). It is possible to have the rifle altered to conform to being a NON-Assault Weapon, and get DOJ approval to allow sales in California. However if it is in California, and not registered, that could be big trouble for whoever has it! It would have to be physically located outside California and modified outside California to get the California DOJ approval. This was done with the Yugoslavian SKS, some FN-FALs (fixing the magazine so it can't be removed without tools), and now may have been done on the MAS 49 49/56. California is far and away the biggest gun market in the USA for it not to be profitable to make at least simple alterations, this market for guns can't be ignored, as there is too much money ready to be spent on firearms. NO AK-47 (or knock-offs), or AR-15 Series, can be altered and be acceptable by the California DOJ, the DOJ is very specific about that! The FAB-10 and a single shot lower have been the only exceptions for altered AR-15 type weapons, that are acceptable to the California DOJ. The California DOJ rules can be found at the following web site: http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/regagunfaqs.htm

01-20-2005, 12:09 PM	#7
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	yeah I guess the one I was looking at has an integral grenade launcher too - too bad no one mods them to conform to CA standards...I want that MAS 49/56 so bad I guess I'll just print out a photo and look at it when I feel like...is there a law against that too ? intent to possess an assault weapon or something ?

03-04-2005, 02:24 PM	#10
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	yup - Minority Report sounds about right. Ever see Demolition Man ? No one possesses arms in the future, everything is government controlled, no one knows what to do when there's crime, and you get tickets for saying "sht". Oh yeah, and all restaurants are taco-bells :insane: Also, there's an Arnold Schwarzenegger prez library :insane: Last edited by gunssb; 03-04-2005 at 02:27 PM.*