Old 01-27-2005, 09:51 AM   #1
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This is stupid ..............

When are people going stop trying to control kids minds -- there is nothing wrong with expressing yourself through a drawing. If they saw the massacres I drew when I was a kid I would have been locked up and prosecuted under PRK's capital punishment laws.



Students Arrested Over 'Violent' Stick Figure Drawings
Pictures Show Classmate Being Stabbed, Hung

POSTED: 1:40 am EST January 26, 2005
UPDATED: 6:50 am EST January 27, 2005

OCALA, Fla. -- Two boys, ages 9 and 10, were charged with felonies and taken away from school in handcuffs, accused of making violent drawings of stick figures.



The boys were arrested Monday on charges of making a written threat to kill or harm another person, a second-degree felony.


The special education students used pencil and red crayon to draw primitive stick figure scenes on scrap paper that showed a 10-year-old classmate being stabbed and hung, police said.


2 Students Charged With Felonies Over Stick Figure Drawings


"The officer found they were drawing these pictures for the sole purpose of intimidating and scaring the victim," said Ocala Police Sgt. Russ Kern.

The boy depicted in the drawings told his teacher, who took the sketches and contacted the school dean, Marty Clifford. Clifford called police, who arrested the boys after consulting with the State Attorney's Office.

They were also suspended from school.

One drawing showed the two boys standing on either side of the other boy and "holding knives pointed through" his body, according to a police report. The figures were identified by written names or initials.

Another drawing showed a stick figure hanging, tears falling from his eyes, with two other stick figures standing below him. Other pieces of scrap paper listed misspelled profanities and the initials of the boy who was allegedly threatened.

Parents of both of the arrested boys said they thought the boys should be punished by the school and families, not the legal system.

Ocala police said they stand behind the decision to arrest the children.

"When an adult or even myself look at the picture looked at it at first I was thinking there is really not much to the picture or I would not be that scared by the picture those children drew," Ocala police spokesman Russ Kearn said. "However, we have to put ourselves in his mind and that's the bottom line here. It is his well-being and the way he perceived that picture to be. It actually put him in extreme fear and he was in fear for his life."
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:26 AM   #2
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They need to get over it! :full: I use to draw some crazy stuff when I was little. Did anybody else here use to draw machine guns with a whole bunch of little dots to represent bullets? :uzi: I use to draw mostly planes dogfighting and strafing bad guys.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:47 AM   #3
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Man, I had whole battle scenes, complete with strafing planes and artillary. If I had done that today, I would be locked away as dangerous to society.

This PC crap gets on my nerves.
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:03 AM   #4
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Anyone remember those silly Psych tests using the blobs - "Tell me what you see." - more often than not, I saw a gun or knife, some type of weapon. Wonder if they had me on file as a Sociopath or something?

Yep, I used to draw battles and stuff too.
I'm ashamed that this crap happened here in Florida. I'd almost expect it in certain other places - not to cast dispersions on our members who might live there.
I see it as a part of the inane "zero tolerance" BS. This is getting into the realm of "The Thought Police". :insane:
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hmmmmmm, would the same result happened if the kids drew pictures of them killing the kid with flowers and kindness???

WWII was fought again on paper. massive battles, and bullets and bombs every where. but that was thought to be normal behavior.
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:12 AM   #6
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yes, I read about this kind of stuff from time to time and all I can do it shake my head - cos it's just too ludicrous, but I guess not for those kids and their families...it's really sad...I was raised believing that we are a free people. What I don't get is how can someone call themselves liberal when their idea of being liberal is taking away other people's liberties/controlling childrens minds...

Definition of liberal (n):
Main Entry: liberal
Function: noun
: a person who is liberal: as a : one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways

what I cannot fathom is how can these folks call themselves liberal when in fact what they are doing most closely resembles:

"a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production" = communism (n).

especially the first part of the definition - totalitarian = open-minded ???????

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Old 01-27-2005, 12:43 PM   #7
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Exactly - they have been using a name that has no bearing on their actual beliefs and actions. I know a bunch of "Conservatives" (myself being one) who are far more "Liberal" in their dealings with others. A live&let live philosophy - you do your thing and I do mine - that was pretty liberal back in the day.
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It's an example of total overreaction to kids playing doing normal kids things. :nod:
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These people when they were kids, must have been scared to death of kids like WE used to be and they are projecting those manisfestations on these poor kids later in life.

The more things change the worse they get. Communities need to take back education and get it out of the hands of the goverment. If it weren't for the goverment getting involved, these richard-heads wouldn't get hired in the first place and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Can you tell work is slow around Euphoria, KS. I've got way too much time on my hands and I have to be here at work, this is the down side to being salary, can't just take off.
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What really ticks me off is now the kids could have felony convictions -- they would loose all rights to own firearms as an adult, they would loose out on a military or Public safety career and many other careers all because some idiot liberal weenie didn't like a drawing
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what Shaun said - and like I said in the other thread, there is a greater chance that a kid who would have otherwise grown up normally would now be frustrated and actually DO the stuff that they're so scared of since he has no future after a felony conviction
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Old 01-27-2005, 05:51 PM   #12
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I think I can pretty well guarantee these kids won't be convicted of a felony offense. No jury in their right mind, or Judge either, would fall for this tripe! This case likely won't even go to court. The public backlash will nix it quickly. If not, you can bet there's gonna be one whopper of a lawsuit against that school and the official who is behind this idiocy. Someone screwed the pooch here - bad!
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:20 AM   #13
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remember playing "hangman"? sheesh a kid would probably get the death penalty for that now a days!
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should we start burying the school district in emails -- maybe even the pd for hiring a couple of idiots that would even make the arrest for no crime
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Old 01-28-2005, 02:31 AM   #15
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un f*^%ing believable... i honestly cant believe a couple of elementery schools kids were taken out of school in handcuffs! i remember making a flip book at school of the wal-mart smiley getting stabbed, shot, impaled, and blown up(all without losing his smile) and seem to remember other kids doing the same. never got in trouble for it. these !!!! 'Communists' think that such behavior out of a child is so incredible horrible and evil that they gotta take such drastic action to deal with it. clearly they've never been here. what the hell do people expect with violent movies and video games saturating the market??? not that i'm against that stuff .

wish I could do something about this...

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oh man! i heard on tv that these kids were in special ed! now thats a bit rediculous!
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I'm ashamed that this crap happened here in Florida. I'd almost expect it in certain other places - not to cast dispersions on our members who might live there...
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And yet, these are the same people who will slap a teen hoodlum on hte wrist for stealing a car, calling it "just a childish prank". They have no consistency in their idiocy.
The two boys maybe should get a good "talking to", out at the "woodpile" as we used to say. Nine and ten years old? Sheesh! Kinda seems the UberLibs are trying to make criminals out of ANYONE who don't toe their Party Line, age not withstanding. I truly cringe at the thought of what people will be like after another fifty years of such stupidity.
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Right on BD,that's telling it like it is,perfect,couldn't agree more!
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