the vets are gonna get screwed

tommy · 02-07-2005, 04:03 PM

bush wants them vets to pay more for thier meds . hum! break out that vasoline hear it comes.

BattleRifleG3 · 02-07-2005, 04:55 PM

I doubt I'm alone in requesting that more information be supplied when making such a harsh accusation against one of the more pro-freedom and pro-serviceman presidents in our nation's history.

I frequently see only unsupported accusations and conclusions when slamming the president. Rarely is there actually some way of backing it up. I have my criticisms of Bush, but I certainly wouldn't accuse him lightly of screwing over our servicemen.

Be careful what you believe, the DNC loves to make such rash allegations which are practically always false, and sometimes it's they who are doing what they accuse Bush of.

dhermesc · 02-07-2005, 05:20 PM

Everyone on SS will be eating dog food and the streets and parks will be overrun with homeless people. It won't matter anyway because we will all die of sun stroke next year since Bush won't sign the Kyoto Agreement (or we might all drown since the polar caps will melt).

:insane:

NRAJOE · 02-07-2005, 07:21 PM

Whatever...............

junkie · 02-07-2005, 10:05 PM

Look I can pay 10.00 for my meds that are not service connected rather than the 7.00 now. I say that cause all my meds are service connected and free. But we did just get a COLA and you know they have to get that back.

Big Dog · 02-08-2005, 05:01 AM

Well, let's all just hike over the Big Rock Candy Mountain to that wonderful land where life is free and easy.

Or, lets suck it up, and get those calls and e-mails in to our Congress Critters, and let them know what we need! Politicians are like kids - they need a firm hand to keep them on the straight&narrow, otherwise they go for immediate self-gratification.

troylaplante · 02-08-2005, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhermesc

Everyone on SS will be eating dog food and the streets and parks will be overrun with homeless people. It won't matter anyway because we will all die of sun stroke next year since Bush won't sign the Kyoto Agreement (or we might all drown since the polar caps will melt).

If you are dumb enough to depend upon Social Security for your entire retirement income, you deserve what you get. Only a complete moron would look at that program and expect to live on it. The original intent of the program was to be a SUPPLEMENT to your existing retirement. Undisciplined and lazy people expect to live on just SS benefits alone.

AND there IS NO FREEEEKIN' global warming!!!!! It is a LIE propagated by pseudo-communist individuals and countries who wish to use this is a strong arm tactic for control.

Back to the original topic, though. I don't have a problem helping veterans. I support vets. However, I do have one concern. Many vets serve only four years or so, yet get health care benefits for life. I personally have a major problem with that concept. I can see career/retirees and combat wounded or sick vets getting appropriate care. I DO NOT, however, see giving free lifetime care to someone because they spent just four years of their life in the military. No job I have ever had (including the fire and police departments I have worked for) should ever feel obligated to give me free health care for unrelated sickness or injury.

My father was a good example. He spent just a few years (I think only two) in the Air Force during Korea. He packed parachutes in Japan. When he got sick in his later years (and I'm only talking forties and fifties), he got all sorts of V.A. benefits for which the tax payers forked out. That does not even consider the SS and disability benefits he got that far outweighed what he ever put into the system. That never sat well with me. Something about spending public money for private benefit just rubs me the wrong way.

tommy · 02-08-2005, 08:59 AM

i was just posting a thread of the story i heard on the news . and they was saying that he was going to double the copay of the vet meds. sorry i didn't get any more info i'm workin on it.i was on my way out the door when i read it (mardi gras time around hear) :ballons:

:ballons:

lol

PAPA G · 02-08-2005, 10:24 AM

any President can request anything in a budget propsal, and thats what it is just a proposal. its left up to the Congress to decide who gets what.

Stopper · 02-08-2005, 02:18 PM

jeeesh you girls - dhermesch was using "SATIRE" to get his point across, my goodness, your raging republican whoremones getting hard to control?

dhermesc · 02-08-2005, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troylaplante

If you are dumb enough to depend upon Social Security for your entire retirement income, you deserve what you get. Only a complete moron would look at that program and expect to live on it. The original intent of the program was to be a SUPPLEMENT to your existing retirement. Undisciplined and lazy people expect to live on just SS benefits alone.

AND there IS NO FREEEEKIN' global warming!!!!! It is a LIE propagated by pseudo-communist individuals and countries who wish to use this is a strong arm tactic for control..

Thanks Stopper.

Stopper · 02-08-2005, 03:35 PM

Maybe they'll look at how many post's you have before judging. You'd think (think being the oppritune word) that if someone has over 1000 posts on this site they probably ain't a troll or a democrap lacky - there's yer sign!

PAPA G · 02-08-2005, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhermesc

Everyone on SS will be eating dog food and the streets and parks will be overrun with homeless people. It won't matter anyway because we will all die of sun stroke next year since Bush won't sign the Kyoto Agreement (or we might all drown since the polar caps will melt).

:insane:

its ok, i got the satire in the post just didn't react to it. i heard the Democraps are putting the homeless and catfood eaters back in storage until the next election. i say if the homeless are hungry, John Kerry has a plan

junkie · 02-08-2005, 04:20 PM

Here's your SIGN, :right:

That is great

troylaplante · 02-08-2005, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stopper

dhermesch was using "SATIRE" to get his point across

And I was WELL AWARE of that when I first read it.

Rufus Rhastus J · 02-09-2005, 10:20 AM

The vets always get screwed. What's new with this? Bush is showing his true colors. I though he was good for America. Since I agree that none of the offerings were what I wanted for America, and Bush was republican, I thought he was okay. Wrong again! I wonder if there are any politicos out there who really love freedom and America.

tommy · 02-09-2005, 10:49 AM

he can't get reelected anyway. he could care less what the american people think about him after this term..

Rave · 02-10-2005, 11:03 AM

S.O.S.!

02-07-2005, 04:03 PM	#1
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	the vets are gonna get screwed bush wants them vets to pay more for thier meds . hum! break out that vasoline hear it comes.

02-07-2005, 04:55 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I doubt I'm alone in requesting that more information be supplied when making such a harsh accusation against one of the more pro-freedom and pro-serviceman presidents in our nation's history. I frequently see only unsupported accusations and conclusions when slamming the president. Rarely is there actually some way of backing it up. I have my criticisms of Bush, but I certainly wouldn't accuse him lightly of screwing over our servicemen. Be careful what you believe, the DNC loves to make such rash allegations which are practically always false, and sometimes it's they who are doing what they accuse Bush of. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

02-07-2005, 05:20 PM	#3
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,762	Everyone on SS will be eating dog food and the streets and parks will be overrun with homeless people. It won't matter anyway because we will all die of sun stroke next year since Bush won't sign the Kyoto Agreement (or we might all drown since the polar caps will melt). :insane: __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

02-07-2005, 07:21 PM	#4
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,043 Images: 3	Whatever............... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

02-08-2005, 05:01 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	Well, let's all just hike over the Big Rock Candy Mountain to that wonderful land where life is free and easy. Or, lets suck it up, and get those calls and e-mails in to our Congress Critters, and let them know what we need! Politicians are like kids - they need a firm hand to keep them on the straight&narrow, otherwise they go for immediate self-gratification. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

02-07-2005, 10:05 PM	#5
junkie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 174	Look I can pay 10.00 for my meds that are not service connected rather than the 7.00 now. I say that cause all my meds are service connected and free. But we did just get a COLA and you know they have to get that back.

02-08-2005, 08:59 AM	#8
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	i was just posting a thread of the story i heard on the news . and they was saying that he was going to double the copay of the vet meds. sorry i didn't get any more info i'm workin on it.i was on my way out the door when i read it (mardi gras time around hear) :ballons: :ballons: lol

02-08-2005, 10:24 AM	#9
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	any President can request anything in a budget propsal, and thats what it is just a proposal. its left up to the Congress to decide who gets what.

02-08-2005, 02:18 PM	#10
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,211 Images: 1	jeeesh you girls - dhermesch was using "SATIRE" to get his point across, my goodness, your raging republican whoremones getting hard to control? __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

02-08-2005, 03:35 PM	#12
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,211 Images: 1	Maybe they'll look at how many post's you have before judging. You'd think (think being the oppritune word) that if someone has over 1000 posts on this site they probably ain't a troll or a democrap lacky - there's yer sign! __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

02-08-2005, 04:20 PM	#14
junkie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 174	Here's your SIGN, :right: That is great

02-09-2005, 10:20 AM	#16
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	The vets always get screwed. What's new with this? Bush is showing his true colors. I though he was good for America. Since I agree that none of the offerings were what I wanted for America, and Bush was republican, I thought he was okay. Wrong again! I wonder if there are any politicos out there who really love freedom and America. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

02-09-2005, 10:49 AM	#17
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,014 Images: 6	he can't get reelected anyway. he could care less what the american people think about him after this term..

02-10-2005, 11:03 AM	#18
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,859	S.O.S.! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .