Old 02-14-2005, 09:01 AM   #1
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Laser Etching ID Proposed For Handgun Ammo

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Laser Etching ID Proposed For Handgun Ammo
"Inside News" Firearms Marketing Group | October 2004 | Denny Fallon

Posted on 10/29/2004 9:29:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee

LASER ETCHING IDENTIFICATION PROPOSED FOR HANDGUN AMMO

If a proposal from the California Attorney General's Office is enacted, all handgun ammunition possessed in public or sold or imported into the nation's most populous state will be laser etched with an individual serial number.

TRhe high-tech tracking system would require all cartridges in a box packaged for retail sale to have matching identification numbers. The package would be scanned and the information linked to the identity of the purchaser.

The micro-stamping system used to etch the serial numbers was developed by Seattle-based Ravensforge Inc., whose technology was subjected to a successful torture test supervised by Randy Rossi, director of the firearms division of the California Dept. of Justice.

"WE TRIED TO PROVE THIS DOESN'T WORK."

Two hundred rounds were fired at close range into automobile doors, wood and concrete walls, ballistic vests, rubber matting and gelatin blocks simulating the density of human tissue. Of the 181 slugs recovered, including soft lead bullets that flattened upon impact, the etched code numbers were identified on all but one round by a standard electronic microscope.

"We tried to prove this doesn't work," said Rossi. "To have it work virtually every time, I was very surprised."

The calibers tested included 9mm, .38, .40 and .45, but not .22, the most popular sporting caliber in California and throughout the nation.

Rossi and his colleagues believe by tracking ammunition they will have a powerful and accurate weapon in identifying the source of criminal use of firearms.

"THIS WON'T SOLVE EVERY CRIME, BUT IT WILL SOLVE A LOT OF CRIMES."

Rossi emphasized that the proposal would exempt sport shooters who reload their own cartridges.

"We could get some gang bangers who all of a sudden take an interest and study reloading, but I hardly think so," said Rossi. "These are the same people who won't even bother to put a glove on when they're committing a crime. This won't solve every crime, but it will solve a lot of crmes."

GARY MEHALIK, the marketing director for the NSSF, warned that until the technology could be applied to .22 caliber ammunition it would be far from universally effective. Coupled with the estimated cost of one cent or less per etching, Mehalik was skeptical of the technology's practicality.

"We'd have to analyze teh costs," said Mehalik, "but I can tell you that it would create a logistical nightmare inside the current production systems."
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Old 02-14-2005, 10:36 AM   #2
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"THIS WON'T SOLVE EVERY CRIME, BUT IT WILL SOLVE A LOT OF CRIMES."

That's what they claimed for "ballistic fingerprinting" of guns too. To date, not one crime has been solved by it. It only works on TV shows and movies.
These folks are watching too much 'CSI'.

The .22 rimfire is produced by the billions per year. If this BS goes thru, our ten dollar Bonus Pack will cost far more. I see this as a variation of the "Tax them out of existence" idea. Make the ammo too expensive, reduce the amount produced - pretty soon, all those 'gun bubbas' can't shoot anymore!

As our buddy Rave says, "SOS!"

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Old 02-14-2005, 11:23 AM   #3
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Old 02-14-2005, 11:29 AM   #4
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I'm stocking up on components.
hell yeah maybe they'll outlaw reloading - anyone who loads their own ammo must be "evil". Only those terrorist snipers in all those Hollywood movies do it
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they want to make it so that ammo is priced beyond the point of sale. Think about it this way companies won't sell ammo to CA -- it should create an incredible black market if it ever did come to pass -- they have tried this for years and the potential numbers alone for 22's could be in the billions and therefore not trackable.
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Wonder if they'll try to require "laser-etching" for each pellet in a shotshell?
Where will this BS end?
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