Old 04-13-2005, 08:54 PM   #1
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Obtaining a FFL or other license

I was wondering is it illegal to obtain an FFL for collecting purposes only? Can you get around this by receiving guns and selling them to friends/family for just over cost? Or what is the other license .. I can't think of it. Anyway how much do each cost to obtain and are either practical if you plan to gradually form a collection of handguns/rifles? Any info would be appreciated, I live in Ohio.. so far my internet searches brought up what seem to be 'gimmicks' but I could be wrong.
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:32 PM   #2
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Thumbs up How to obtain your 03 C&R license....

This is the best page I've ever seen explaining how to do it:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...fl03/index.asp
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:35 PM   #3
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Two best places in Ohio to order your guns...order on Monday...on your doorstep no later than Wednesday (sometimes even Tues! )

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Old 04-13-2005, 10:26 PM   #4
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Wow, awesome! So how many of you have that license? I'd imagine you order one-two guns in 3 years and it pays for itself. Thanks for the sites GR
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:30 PM   #5
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I'm on my 2nd...will expire next year...time for 3rd renewal.

You usually save the very first time you buy with it.
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:40 PM   #6
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Well then I know what I need to do =) Thanks again
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:42 PM   #7
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Mailed my C&R form off to the ATF today. Only $30! Buy one C&R eligable gun and get your money back. Don't know why I waited so long!
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1: A C&R doesn not allow you to engage in dealing in firearms. Be Careful with this respect.

2: Keep a bound book of your purchases and dispositions.

Everything else is pretty much common sense I believe.
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Old 04-14-2005, 10:14 AM   #9
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That is absolutely correct. Also, by definition, the C&R license only applies to guns that are classified as C&Rs. Many of them are fine, capable rifles even now, but it's still a certain category.
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I have my C&R(2nd renewal) and yes they pay for themselves -- with the C&R you can not sell firearms as a business you are a collector so make sure to read the regs and keep your records. regular FFL is too invasive the BATFE can walk in your door anytime and Klinton signed a law that the location being licensed for a normal class 1 requires commercial zoning.
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Old 04-14-2005, 11:13 AM   #11
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What these guys said. Also check local/state laws - some states, whether you like it or not, grant a C&R only limited rights. e.g. in CA, to be a C&R any firearm needs to be manufactured 50+ years ago, even if it's on the ATF list. Also handguns, regardless of their status, need to go to a 01 FFL.
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:07 AM   #12
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so far the original question hasn't been answered though, unless I missed it, and I'm pretty sure I read all the posts. Will "The Man" let you get an FFL solely for collecting purposes?
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:38 AM   #13
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. Also handguns, regardless of their status, need to go to a 01 FFL.
there are several C&R handguns you can obtain with your 03FFL including some old 1911's if you can find them as well as others
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Old 05-07-2008, 11:02 AM   #14
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That is what a C an R license if for is to collect. But the regular license is not for collecting but selling.
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