Officer showing high school student his safety gun holster dismayed when

Doglips · 05-13-2005, 06:44 AM

Officer showing high school student his safety gun holster dismayed when student discovers that the trigger could still be successfully pulled

Gun accidentally goes off in Anderson County school

The Associated Press

A gunshot was fired into the floor in an Anderson County middle school after a student accidentally pulled the trigger of a deputy's holstered gun.

The gun fired Wednesday morning after a student at Lakeside Middle School grabbed it as the deputy told them how hard it was to take a gun from an officer's holster, Sheriff David Crenshaw said.

The student's finger apparently was small enough to get inside the holster and pull the trigger, the sheriff said.

The bullet fired into the floor, and debris cut and scratched two students. But no one was seriously injured, school officials said.

The sheriff's office has begun an internal investigation and the officer involved is on administrative leave, said Crenshaw, who would not identify the deputy or say whether he would be paid while on leave.

"The officer there today had a major lapse in judgment," Crenshaw said Wednesday. "He was just trying to be nice to the kids and made a faulty decision. It was an accident. The good Lord blessed us that nobody got hurt."

The deputy was a school resource officer assigned to protect the school. They are trained and certified like regular officers and are allowed to carry guns to try and stop a tragedy like the school shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, where 12 students and a teacher died six years ago before the gunmen turned their weapons on themselves.

"Had there been armed officers at Columbine, there would be a lot less dead people there," Crenshaw said. "The most dangerous places in our country are where there are no guns."

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Information from: The Greenville News

Gunnie Ed · 05-13-2005, 06:47 AM

Haha! that should serve as a warning to everyone involved to never put too much faith in technology.

Big Dog · 05-13-2005, 07:29 AM

Ah, yes, the heady smell of BS in the morning . . .
"Gun accidentally goes off in Anderson County school"

Sounds like it worked to me - this wasn't an accident - took a PERSON to pull the trigger!

I like the Sherrif's assertion that gunless places are the most dangerous.

ShooMac · 05-13-2005, 08:49 AM

"The most dangerous places in our country are where there are no guns."

Amen. I am amazed that the AP censors let that one get by them.

Thrawn · 05-13-2005, 09:45 AM

Yep, my four acres have been crime free for quite a few years now, unlike the rest of the little area I live in. Even our backwoods county has a meth problem, but the druggies have steered clear of hear ever since I turned 18.

Shaun · 05-13-2005, 10:14 AM

my property has been crime free for years --- I had an alarm activation once I called the neighbor and he set up a bench rest on his porch to watch my house until I got there and found the cat had set the alarm off. We have a neighborhood watch program that is far and above most others.

This situation is simple the dimwit let someone handle his gun -- I hope he is suspended and put on admin only for the period of 1 year at minimum.

Thrawn · 05-13-2005, 10:39 AM

Yeah, if he was letting oter people touch it, especially kids, it should have been empty.

MAX7.62 · 05-13-2005, 10:49 AM

about how wonderful the HI-TECH Glocks are! I'm assuming here, but since so many LEO's are all hauling Glocks, AND I don't right away know of too many other hand weapons that rely on a safety clit in the trigger and no other physical main safety - - - ????

OK, It coulda been a 1911 and Barney forgot to lock after he cocked - which adds another "IDIOT" tag to his apparently growing collection - but wait, a 1911 has a GRIP safety, and if it's a newer model from Kimber or Springfield there would also be a firing pin safety - well heck, just fingering the trigger on a 1911 won't fire it even if the main safety is off unless he had the grip safety pulled down with the holster strap - - - - - -

NAAAAH, had to be a Crock - - err, I mean a GLOCK

Thrawn · 05-13-2005, 10:53 AM

Easy, some people get testy when thier "wonder" pistols are bashed.

Still needs some safety classes regardless of the pistol.:nod:

MAX7.62 · 05-13-2005, 11:04 AM

snikker!

I'm a BAAAAAAAAD boy!!!

Thrawn · 05-13-2005, 11:06 AM

He just was'nt glock material. :wink:
(snikker

)

Big Dog · 05-13-2005, 11:08 AM

Barney's main problem was in loading his gun, not his brain. Letting a kid touch the gun, holstered or not - big NO-NO! That violates the Libs beloved Zero-tolerence program right there. And no gun is 'child-proof'. Heck, if you have any trouble with child-proof locks, bottlecaps, TV restrictions - let a twelve-year-old kid take care of it. They are uncommonly good at defeating these gadgets.
The cop's primary 'safety', his brain, was clearly at fault here.

MAX7.62 · 05-13-2005, 11:13 AM

YOU, Big Dog, are 100% correct my friend!

It also goes to prove again that "IDJUTTS" like glocks

(sorry Thrawn, I just can't leave it alone!!) :nod:

Thrawn · 05-13-2005, 11:15 AM

lmao

inuyasha · 05-13-2005, 12:29 PM

ironically i was talking about similar stuff last week... recently learned, in one day, how to pick locks... picked a ruger pistol lock *not the one that blocks the trigger, its got the metal rope type*... ended up picking it 6 times in half an hour... the one time i picked it in under 2 minutes to prove to someone i could -- he gave me a 5 minute time limit. took me half an hour of practice the very first time i tried it... materials involved? 2 paper clips and 1 hair pin. speaking of which... where is everyone's gun case in their house.. no reason

gunssb · 05-13-2005, 01:08 PM

What MAX7.62 said is the first thing that came to my mind

(another 1911 fan here

)

Anyway, I suspect he was just showing off. If he did want to educate the kid or test if his holster was safe, the proper way would have been with an unloaded gun. Another reason why they have the warning on the box the holster comes in "Check for proper function with an UNLOADED firearm". Everytime I see one of those warnings on bore cleaners, holsters, or anything that is remotely gun related for a split second I go "Now who can be so dumb", then reality sinks in

Guess you can't say it enough times.

Stopper · 05-13-2005, 01:58 PM

My jaw hit the floor when I read what the Sheriff said at the end about the most dangerous places are where there are no guns. Couldn't beleive they didn't censor that because it's the truth. WOW - hardly ever see the truth printed anymore by the AP.

NorCalAshnjikov · 05-13-2005, 05:10 PM

Something kinda like that happened to me.
A lady sheriff's deputy was demonstrating (with fake gun) how
her holster is designed so as to make it hard for someone
to grab the gun from her holster, especially when facing the officer.
I did it on my 1st try. It's the kind of holster where you have to
push the gun away from you before you can lift it out.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 05-13-2005, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doglips

"The most dangerous places in our country are where there are no guns."

Can't believe a cop said that.

Otter · 05-14-2005, 08:34 PM

I don't use trigger locks, I have a safe, and keep a .45 close at hand. I don't have children in my place. If someone brought a child into my home my bedside .45 would end up in the back of my pants.

05-13-2005, 06:44 AM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,088	Officer showing high school student his safety gun holster dismayed when Officer showing high school student his safety gun holster dismayed when student discovers that the trigger could still be successfully pulled Gun accidentally goes off in Anderson County school The Associated Press A gunshot was fired into the floor in an Anderson County middle school after a student accidentally pulled the trigger of a deputy's holstered gun. The gun fired Wednesday morning after a student at Lakeside Middle School grabbed it as the deputy told them how hard it was to take a gun from an officer's holster, Sheriff David Crenshaw said. The student's finger apparently was small enough to get inside the holster and pull the trigger, the sheriff said. The bullet fired into the floor, and debris cut and scratched two students. But no one was seriously injured, school officials said. The sheriff's office has begun an internal investigation and the officer involved is on administrative leave, said Crenshaw, who would not identify the deputy or say whether he would be paid while on leave. "The officer there today had a major lapse in judgment," Crenshaw said Wednesday. "He was just trying to be nice to the kids and made a faulty decision. It was an accident. The good Lord blessed us that nobody got hurt." The deputy was a school resource officer assigned to protect the school. They are trained and certified like regular officers and are allowed to carry guns to try and stop a tragedy like the school shootings at Columbine High School in Colorado, where 12 students and a teacher died six years ago before the gunmen turned their weapons on themselves. "Had there been armed officers at Columbine, there would be a lot less dead people there," Crenshaw said. "The most dangerous places in our country are where there are no guns." --- Information from: The Greenville News

05-13-2005, 06:47 AM	#2
Gunnie Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: three clicks left of center. Posts: 811	Haha! that should serve as a warning to everyone involved to never put too much faith in technology. __________________ http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95.../warinmine.gif

05-13-2005, 07:29 AM	#3
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,359	Ah, yes, the heady smell of BS in the morning . . . "Gun accidentally goes off in Anderson County school" Sounds like it worked to me - this wasn't an accident - took a PERSON to pull the trigger! I like the Sherrif's assertion that gunless places are the most dangerous. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

05-13-2005, 08:49 AM	#4
ShooMac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 354	"The most dangerous places in our country are where there are no guns." Amen. I am amazed that the AP censors let that one get by them. __________________ "Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash

05-13-2005, 10:14 AM	#6
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,599 Images: 1	my property has been crime free for years --- I had an alarm activation once I called the neighbor and he set up a bench rest on his porch to watch my house until I got there and found the cat had set the alarm off. We have a neighborhood watch program that is far and above most others. This situation is simple the dimwit let someone handle his gun -- I hope he is suspended and put on admin only for the period of 1 year at minimum. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

05-13-2005, 09:45 AM	#5
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Images: 6	Yep, my four acres have been crime free for quite a few years now, unlike the rest of the little area I live in. Even our backwoods county has a meth problem, but the druggies have steered clear of hear ever since I turned 18.

05-13-2005, 10:39 AM	#7
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Images: 6	Yeah, if he was letting oter people touch it, especially kids, it should have been empty.

05-13-2005, 10:49 AM	#8
MAX7.62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Classified Posts: 934	Tell me again guys about how wonderful the HI-TECH Glocks are! I'm assuming here, but since so many LEO's are all hauling Glocks, AND I don't right away know of too many other hand weapons that rely on a safety clit in the trigger and no other physical main safety - - - ???? OK, It coulda been a 1911 and Barney forgot to lock after he cocked - which adds another "IDIOT" tag to his apparently growing collection - but wait, a 1911 has a GRIP safety, and if it's a newer model from Kimber or Springfield there would also be a firing pin safety - well heck, just fingering the trigger on a 1911 won't fire it even if the main safety is off unless he had the grip safety pulled down with the holster strap - - - - - - NAAAAH, had to be a Crock - - err, I mean a GLOCK __________________ The Second Amendment, it ain't about DUCK HUNTING! I feel more like I do now that I did when I first got here!

05-13-2005, 10:53 AM	#9
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Images: 6	Easy, some people get testy when thier "wonder" pistols are bashed. Still needs some safety classes regardless of the pistol.:nod:

05-13-2005, 11:04 AM	#10
MAX7.62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Classified Posts: 934	snikker! I'm a BAAAAAAAAD boy!!! __________________ The Second Amendment, it ain't about DUCK HUNTING! I feel more like I do now that I did when I first got here!

05-13-2005, 11:06 AM	#11
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Images: 6	He just was'nt glock material. :wink: (snikker)

05-13-2005, 11:08 AM	#12
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,359	Barney's main problem was in loading his gun, not his brain. Letting a kid touch the gun, holstered or not - big NO-NO! That violates the Libs beloved Zero-tolerence program right there. And no gun is 'child-proof'. Heck, if you have any trouble with child-proof locks, bottlecaps, TV restrictions - let a twelve-year-old kid take care of it. They are uncommonly good at defeating these gadgets. The cop's primary 'safety', his brain, was clearly at fault here. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

05-13-2005, 11:13 AM	#13
MAX7.62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Classified Posts: 934	YOU, Big Dog, are 100% correct my friend! It also goes to prove again that "IDJUTTS" like glocks (sorry Thrawn, I just can't leave it alone!!) :nod: __________________ The Second Amendment, it ain't about DUCK HUNTING! I feel more like I do now that I did when I first got here!

05-13-2005, 11:15 AM	#14
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Images: 6	lmao

05-13-2005, 12:29 PM	#15
inuyasha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: US occupied territories of "south dakota" Posts: 357	ironically i was talking about similar stuff last week... recently learned, in one day, how to pick locks... picked a ruger pistol lock not the one that blocks the trigger, its got the metal rope type... ended up picking it 6 times in half an hour... the one time i picked it in under 2 minutes to prove to someone i could -- he gave me a 5 minute time limit. took me half an hour of practice the very first time i tried it... materials involved? 2 paper clips and 1 hair pin. speaking of which... where is everyone's gun case in their house.. no reason

05-13-2005, 01:08 PM	#16
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	What MAX7.62 said is the first thing that came to my mind (another 1911 fan here ) Anyway, I suspect he was just showing off. If he did want to educate the kid or test if his holster was safe, the proper way would have been with an unloaded gun. Another reason why they have the warning on the box the holster comes in "Check for proper function with an UNLOADED firearm". Everytime I see one of those warnings on bore cleaners, holsters, or anything that is remotely gun related for a split second I go "Now who can be so dumb", then reality sinks in Guess you can't say it enough times.

05-13-2005, 01:58 PM	#17
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,212 Images: 1	My jaw hit the floor when I read what the Sheriff said at the end about the most dangerous places are where there are no guns. Couldn't beleive they didn't censor that because it's the truth. WOW - hardly ever see the truth printed anymore by the AP. __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

05-13-2005, 05:10 PM	#18
NorCalAshnjikov Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 688 Images: 1	Something kinda like that happened to me. A lady sheriff's deputy was demonstrating (with fake gun) how her holster is designed so as to make it hard for someone to grab the gun from her holster, especially when facing the officer. I did it on my 1st try. It's the kind of holster where you have to push the gun away from you before you can lift it out.

05-14-2005, 08:34 PM	#20
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 974 Images: 6	I don't use trigger locks, I have a safe, and keep a .45 close at hand. I don't have children in my place. If someone brought a child into my home my bedside .45 would end up in the back of my pants.