Soldiers Not Welcome

Doglips · 06-05-2005, 01:47 PM

http://boortz.com/nuze/200506/06022005.html

Thursday -- June 2, 2005 June already!

GOVERNMENT SCHOOL --- SOLDIERS NOT WELCOME

Ulrica Corbett
We talked about this one on the show yesterday, but it didn't make the Nuze. So here we go .. the story of the Anita White Carson Middle School in Greensboro, Greene County, Georgia.

Our cast of characters is as follows:

* Matthew Lund, first year teacher
* Ulrica Corbett, Principal.
* Zach Richardson, Sergeant, U.S. Marine Corps.

So .. here's the story, gleaned from the front page of the May 26th edition of Greensboro Herald-Journal.

Matthew L
und and Zach Richardson were college roommates. After college Richard joined the Marines and Lund started teaching. Richardson went to Iraq, Lund to Carson Middle School, there to teach a 6th grade language arts class.

As a class assignment Lund gave his students the opportunity to write a letter to Sgt. Richardson in Iraq. Richardson wrote back and gave the class the names of five other Marines who would like to receive letters. Soon other middle school classes were also sending letters to the Marines in Iraq.

Matthew Lund
When Sgt. Richardson returned to the United States he told Matthew Lund that he wanted to come to the Carson Middle School to personally thank the students for their support and letters. Lund filled out and submitted a "Resource Visitor or Guest Speaker Form" and submitted it to Principal Corbett. Lund says he never got the form back from Corbett. He says he asked the Principal about the form, and was told that she was not going to look at it.

Lund says that he realized his request to have Sgt. Richardson visit the school was going to be ignored by Ulrica Corbett. He made the decision to proceed with the plans for the visit, a visit that took place, or was to take place on May 23rd, one week before Memorial Day.

When Sgt. Richardson showed up at the Carson Middle School Lund took him to the school's media center to prepare to meet the students. At that point, according to Lund, Principal Corbett called him into the hall and told him that the Marine was not approved to be at the school. Lund told Corbett that the proper form had been submitted and had been ignored. Corbett's response was "that's your problem, not mine." Lund's version of the discussion with Corbett in the hallway suggests that Corbett harbored a great deal of hostility toward Sgt. Richardson and Matthew Lund. She told Lund that the students had not earned the visit from the Marine, and closed the discussion with Lund with the phrase "what part of what we just discussed do you not understand?" She then ordered Matthew Lund to escort Sgt. Richardson off the school campus.

When this story hit the local newspaper Ulrica Corbett thought it best to do a little CYA work. She submitted a written statement to the Herald-Journal in which she stated "My decision not to allow Zach Richardson to speak with the students on Monday came out of my regard for the safety and welfare of our children." What a crock. Is Ulrica Corbett saying that this U.S. Marine who had just spent a year putting his life on the line for his country presented some sort of a threat to the children at the Carson Middle School?

My guess? What we have here is some self-important middle school principal who harbors a dislike, if not an outright hatred, of the American armed forces, and who is steadfastly opposed to our actions in Iraq and quite possibly in Afghanistan. This principal then decided to let her petty prejudices stand in the way of what would have been a memorable and rewarding experience for both Sgt. Richardson and the children of Matthew Lund's 6th grade class. Now that's just a guess. I've received messages that Ulrica Corbett has family members in the military and serving in Iraq. You would have thought that information might have been set forth in her written statement to the newspaper. It wasn't

Corbett is saying that the teacher didn't follow protocol. The newspaper has signed and dated copies of the documentation submitted by Lund. Someone here isn't telling the truth. One thing for sure: Protocol be dammed, Ulrica Corbett could have found a way to allow this soldier to talk to the students who had befriended him. She didn't

This morning the story is getting increased attention. Calls have been coming into the Greene County Schools from across the nation. Superintendent John Jackson has offered a written apology, saying that the situation could have been handled differently. The official story still seems to be that Lund didn't follow the necessary steps to get permission for Richardson's visit. I would like to know a little more about Lund's assertion that Corbett told him that she was simply "not going to look at" the written request, and that this was "(his) problem, not mine." Right now it sounds more like the problem was with Corbett, not Lund. I guess it should be expected that the superintendent would protect an established principal in a controversy with a first year teacher on the way out the door.

Thanks to the Herald-Journal the people of Greene County know just what type of person they have in charge of the education of their children at the Carson Middle School.

Government schools. Gotta love 'em.

Rave · 06-05-2005, 02:01 PM

I think that is an outrage! But then again,with the libs running the school system it is just another sign of the times!

rebel727 · 06-05-2005, 02:35 PM

It's Just one more thing in a whole list of liberalism. History being taught in schools (about slavery in particular) has been nothing but a bunch of crap for years. History books used in schools now concerning slavery have to be approved by the naacp fer cryin out loud. Not a shred of truth in them.

Gunnie Ed · 06-05-2005, 03:16 PM

i was having a... hell, let's just call it what it was, an argument with some fellow who's probably from japan or some place else in asia, and he was goin on about how america sucks because the women are sluts and was calling me a nationalist as if it was an insult. how can you not be a nationalists? if you agree with your country, and you do what they ask(or in most countries what the tell) you to do, doesn't that make you a nationalists by you actions?

SPOCAHP ANAR · 06-05-2005, 07:00 PM

I heard about this also on Boortz. A real pinhead. And the teacher has been fired (told he wasn't needed at the school anymore).

I would really like to see the parents do something about this.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 06-05-2005, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunnie Ed

about how america sucks because the women are sluts

I would have told him that that was one of our finer points and watch him lose it.

Oxford · 06-05-2005, 07:06 PM

Ulrica Corbett, sounds like the last principal I had when teaching H.S. classes in Missouri. Corbett is a tyrant, and...the principal I had was a jerk, too. Might as well call them by their correct descriptions. Even a beginning psychologist would describe their actions as that of someone insecure. They make decisions which are not to be questioned without them overreacting. Their egos demand to always be correct no matter what they've said or done.

Anyway, I'm not going to accuse all principals of being like Corbett because I met too many first hand who did excellent jobs of managing their school operations. Fact is, in my opinion Corbett is in a definite minority. But...her type makes the press happy when they provide material which the media love to print. It sells papers. Too many people love to point out flaws of others rather than look for the good things they do. Hey, this story even got printed on G&G.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 06-05-2005, 07:41 PM

Board of Education's email: info@greene.k12.ga.us

Principal's email: ulrica.corbett@greene.k12.ga.us

Enjoy

NorCalAshnjikov · 06-06-2005, 01:22 AM

I gotta say I couldn't care either way.
Lund should've taken care to prepare the paperwork, regardless of the obstacles.
Corbett should've processed the paperwork, regardless of her opinion.
Richardson should've looked for inspiration elsewhere, regardless of his situation.
The newspapers should've kept this BS to themselves.
Doglips shouldn't have posted it here (plenty of other BS to discuss).
Rave should've taken some pepto bismol.
SPOCAHP ANAR shouldn't have posted the email adresses
(unless its in your district, it ain't your business).

Lund had plenty of legal recourse left,
instead he chose to try to bully his way through the "red tape".
Great lesson for his kids.

fudge

Doglips · 06-06-2005, 06:51 AM

I posted this because I belive that 1 it was polite for the guy to thank the kids...2 that even if you totaly disagree with the war that the troops who are there deserve our support...not their by choice....and fnaly that we have freedoms because people men/women fight for our country...and we as a nation should be greatfull.

jerry · 06-06-2005, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCalAshnjikov

Doglips shouldn't have posted it here (plenty of other BS to discuss).

This post is legitimately within the confines of the format of this forum.

dhermesc · 06-06-2005, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCalAshnjikov

I gotta say I couldn't care either way.

So just STFU.

Sniper[MI] · 06-06-2005, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCalAshnjikov

I gotta say I couldn't care either way.
Lund should've taken care to prepare the paperwork, regardless of the obstacles.
Corbett should've processed the paperwork, regardless of her opinion.
Richardson should've looked for inspiration elsewhere, regardless of his situation.
The newspapers should've kept this BS to themselves.
Doglips shouldn't have posted it here (plenty of other BS to discuss).
Rave should've taken some pepto bismol.
SPOCAHP ANAR shouldn't have posted the email adresses
(unless its in your district, it ain't your business).

Lund had plenty of legal recourse left,
instead he chose to try to bully his way through the "red tape".
Great lesson for his kids.

fudge

Doglips shouldn't have posted it here (plenty of other BS to discuss).

I'm glad your not a moderator.....

I think it was perfectly valid to post....I could care less if Doglips posted a recipe for lemon curry. I reads 'em if they interests me, and if not I move on. Until the Libs take over, it is still a free country.....

Rave · 06-06-2005, 08:34 AM

Southern Cal.,don't care either way,might be the reason they are as screwed up as they are,besides,Pepto Bismol is pretty good stuff.
Did I hear the sound of a washing machine lid creaking open? :lucky:

Shaun · 06-06-2005, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doglips

I posted this because I belive that 1 it was polite for the guy to thank the kids...2 that even if you totaly disagree with the war that the troops who are there deserve our support...not their by choice....and fnaly that we have freedoms because people men/women fight for our country...and we as a nation should be greatfull.

This summed up all my thoughts

Oxford · 06-06-2005, 09:23 AM

Doglips...thanks for making your post. It gave us something to think about which is important. My reaction was in anger at the insecure principal who railroaded Lund's valid attempt to bring realism into the classroom.

Rufus Rhastus J · 06-06-2005, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhermesc

So just STFU.

I liked the post also. It made me angry and it made me ashamed....ashamed that the principal was such a douche bag and anti-American. It is she who should have lost her job. :nod: I also agree, if you don't like the post, move along. There are plenty of other posts. Maybe there will be one you like. If not, besides, and instead of, being rude, why not put a thread of your own in? None of us deserve to be treated with such poor taste. I doubt you would get such a resonse to your thread.

NorCalAshnjikov · 06-06-2005, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doglips

I posted this because I belive that 1 it was polite for the guy to thank the kids...2 that even if you totaly disagree with the war that the troops who are there deserve our support...not their by choice....and fnaly that we have freedoms because people men/women fight for our country...and we as a nation should be greatfull.

Yeah, but it has nothing to do with running
a school/getting through paperwork.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 06-06-2005, 07:58 PM

NorCal; from my understanding the teacher did fill out the paperwork and properly from what I have read. I believe the newspaper even has a copy of it.

The principal let her own views interfere with something that the students earned. They wrote this guy and he decided to thank them in person for their kindness. I also thought the teacher went far beyond what was decent by telling the students that the Soldier had business to take care of. However I am sure they learned the truth soon there after.

The principal clearly has issues with others having free will or thought for that matter. I posted the email bc I believe she deserves every bit of hate mail she recieves.

Doglips · 06-06-2005, 07:59 PM

1 the school should have allowed him on campouse...as a former recruiter federal law requires any school that gets any public funding to allow the milatary acess....2 lets be real if the principals boyfriend/girlfriend stoped by to chat...see and old friend the form would be signed on the spot....or waved....not like this is a super max prison.

06-05-2005, 01:47 PM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	Soldiers Not Welcome http://boortz.com/nuze/200506/06022005.html Thursday -- June 2, 2005 June already! GOVERNMENT SCHOOL --- SOLDIERS NOT WELCOME Ulrica Corbett We talked about this one on the show yesterday, but it didn't make the Nuze. So here we go .. the story of the Anita White Carson Middle School in Greensboro, Greene County, Georgia. Our cast of characters is as follows: * Matthew Lund, first year teacher * Ulrica Corbett, Principal. * Zach Richardson, Sergeant, U.S. Marine Corps. So .. here's the story, gleaned from the front page of the May 26th edition of Greensboro Herald-Journal. Matthew L und and Zach Richardson were college roommates. After college Richard joined the Marines and Lund started teaching. Richardson went to Iraq, Lund to Carson Middle School, there to teach a 6th grade language arts class. As a class assignment Lund gave his students the opportunity to write a letter to Sgt. Richardson in Iraq. Richardson wrote back and gave the class the names of five other Marines who would like to receive letters. Soon other middle school classes were also sending letters to the Marines in Iraq. Matthew Lund When Sgt. Richardson returned to the United States he told Matthew Lund that he wanted to come to the Carson Middle School to personally thank the students for their support and letters. Lund filled out and submitted a "Resource Visitor or Guest Speaker Form" and submitted it to Principal Corbett. Lund says he never got the form back from Corbett. He says he asked the Principal about the form, and was told that she was not going to look at it. Lund says that he realized his request to have Sgt. Richardson visit the school was going to be ignored by Ulrica Corbett. He made the decision to proceed with the plans for the visit, a visit that took place, or was to take place on May 23rd, one week before Memorial Day. When Sgt. Richardson showed up at the Carson Middle School Lund took him to the school's media center to prepare to meet the students. At that point, according to Lund, Principal Corbett called him into the hall and told him that the Marine was not approved to be at the school. Lund told Corbett that the proper form had been submitted and had been ignored. Corbett's response was "that's your problem, not mine." Lund's version of the discussion with Corbett in the hallway suggests that Corbett harbored a great deal of hostility toward Sgt. Richardson and Matthew Lund. She told Lund that the students had not earned the visit from the Marine, and closed the discussion with Lund with the phrase "what part of what we just discussed do you not understand?" She then ordered Matthew Lund to escort Sgt. Richardson off the school campus. When this story hit the local newspaper Ulrica Corbett thought it best to do a little CYA work. She submitted a written statement to the Herald-Journal in which she stated "My decision not to allow Zach Richardson to speak with the students on Monday came out of my regard for the safety and welfare of our children." What a crock. Is Ulrica Corbett saying that this U.S. Marine who had just spent a year putting his life on the line for his country presented some sort of a threat to the children at the Carson Middle School? My guess? What we have here is some self-important middle school principal who harbors a dislike, if not an outright hatred, of the American armed forces, and who is steadfastly opposed to our actions in Iraq and quite possibly in Afghanistan. This principal then decided to let her petty prejudices stand in the way of what would have been a memorable and rewarding experience for both Sgt. Richardson and the children of Matthew Lund's 6th grade class. Now that's just a guess. I've received messages that Ulrica Corbett has family members in the military and serving in Iraq. You would have thought that information might have been set forth in her written statement to the newspaper. It wasn't Corbett is saying that the teacher didn't follow protocol. The newspaper has signed and dated copies of the documentation submitted by Lund. Someone here isn't telling the truth. One thing for sure: Protocol be dammed, Ulrica Corbett could have found a way to allow this soldier to talk to the students who had befriended him. She didn't This morning the story is getting increased attention. Calls have been coming into the Greene County Schools from across the nation. Superintendent John Jackson has offered a written apology, saying that the situation could have been handled differently. The official story still seems to be that Lund didn't follow the necessary steps to get permission for Richardson's visit. I would like to know a little more about Lund's assertion that Corbett told him that she was simply "not going to look at" the written request, and that this was "(his) problem, not mine." Right now it sounds more like the problem was with Corbett, not Lund. I guess it should be expected that the superintendent would protect an established principal in a controversy with a first year teacher on the way out the door. Thanks to the Herald-Journal the people of Greene County know just what type of person they have in charge of the education of their children at the Carson Middle School. Government schools. Gotta love 'em.

06-05-2005, 02:01 PM	#2
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	I think that is an outrage! But then again,with the libs running the school system it is just another sign of the times! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

06-05-2005, 02:35 PM	#3
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,549	It's Just one more thing in a whole list of liberalism. History being taught in schools (about slavery in particular) has been nothing but a bunch of crap for years. History books used in schools now concerning slavery have to be approved by the naacp fer cryin out loud. Not a shred of truth in them. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

06-05-2005, 03:16 PM	#4
Gunnie Ed Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: three clicks left of center. Posts: 808	i was having a... hell, let's just call it what it was, an argument with some fellow who's probably from japan or some place else in asia, and he was goin on about how america sucks because the women are sluts and was calling me a nationalist as if it was an insult. how can you not be a nationalists? if you agree with your country, and you do what they ask(or in most countries what the tell) you to do, doesn't that make you a nationalists by you actions? __________________ http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95.../warinmine.gif

06-05-2005, 07:06 PM	#7
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Ulrica Corbett, sounds like the last principal I had when teaching H.S. classes in Missouri. Corbett is a tyrant, and...the principal I had was a jerk, too. Might as well call them by their correct descriptions. Even a beginning psychologist would describe their actions as that of someone insecure. They make decisions which are not to be questioned without them overreacting. Their egos demand to always be correct no matter what they've said or done. Anyway, I'm not going to accuse all principals of being like Corbett because I met too many first hand who did excellent jobs of managing their school operations. Fact is, in my opinion Corbett is in a definite minority. But...her type makes the press happy when they provide material which the media love to print. It sells papers. Too many people love to point out flaws of others rather than look for the good things they do. Hey, this story even got printed on G&G. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

06-05-2005, 07:00 PM	#5
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,096 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	I heard about this also on Boortz. A real pinhead. And the teacher has been fired (told he wasn't needed at the school anymore). I would really like to see the parents do something about this.

06-05-2005, 07:41 PM	#8
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,096 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	Board of Education's email: info@greene.k12.ga.us Principal's email: ulrica.corbett@greene.k12.ga.us Enjoy

06-06-2005, 01:22 AM	#9
NorCalAshnjikov Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 688 Images: 1	I gotta say I couldn't care either way. Lund should've taken care to prepare the paperwork, regardless of the obstacles. Corbett should've processed the paperwork, regardless of her opinion. Richardson should've looked for inspiration elsewhere, regardless of his situation. The newspapers should've kept this BS to themselves. Doglips shouldn't have posted it here (plenty of other BS to discuss). Rave should've taken some pepto bismol. SPOCAHP ANAR shouldn't have posted the email adresses (unless its in your district, it ain't your business). Lund had plenty of legal recourse left, instead he chose to try to bully his way through the "red tape". Great lesson for his kids. fudge

06-06-2005, 06:51 AM	#10
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	I posted this because I belive that 1 it was polite for the guy to thank the kids...2 that even if you totaly disagree with the war that the troops who are there deserve our support...not their by choice....and fnaly that we have freedoms because people men/women fight for our country...and we as a nation should be greatfull.

06-06-2005, 08:34 AM	#14
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	Southern Cal.,don't care either way,might be the reason they are as screwed up as they are,besides,Pepto Bismol is pretty good stuff. Did I hear the sound of a washing machine lid creaking open? :lucky: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

06-06-2005, 09:23 AM	#16
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	Doglips...thanks for making your post. It gave us something to think about which is important. My reaction was in anger at the insecure principal who railroaded Lund's valid attempt to bring realism into the classroom. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

06-06-2005, 07:58 PM	#19
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,096 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	NorCal; from my understanding the teacher did fill out the paperwork and properly from what I have read. I believe the newspaper even has a copy of it. The principal let her own views interfere with something that the students earned. They wrote this guy and he decided to thank them in person for their kindness. I also thought the teacher went far beyond what was decent by telling the students that the Soldier had business to take care of. However I am sure they learned the truth soon there after. The principal clearly has issues with others having free will or thought for that matter. I posted the email bc I believe she deserves every bit of hate mail she recieves.

06-06-2005, 07:59 PM	#20
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	1 the school should have allowed him on campouse...as a former recruiter federal law requires any school that gets any public funding to allow the milatary acess....2 lets be real if the principals boyfriend/girlfriend stoped by to chat...see and old friend the form would be signed on the spot....or waved....not like this is a super max prison.