Myth Busters...shooting victim flying backwards

Doglips · 06-07-2005, 08:37 PM

I dont know if any..or how many of you all watch the show myth busters ....I have the digital recorder so usaly run through the recorded shows on my day off...most are kinda silly myths that they put to the test....the other day they had one that cought my intrest....we all see people in movies get shot...end up flying back 5 foot...through windows and doors.

Welp Myth busters took a dead pig..suspended it so if it moved it would be free to go back and of course fall down...some police officers were paid to shoot it.....9mm, 45acp,44mag, 223, 308 and even 12 guage slug...no movement...the slug made it go back 1 inch and fall down...no flying...so full auto weapons were used...3 full auto (9mm and 223) shooint at same time...no real movement.

SO they took a crash test dummy..put put a bullet proff vest and repeated it....high spped camras showed the bullets makeing the vest bounce but only 12 guage 00 buck knocked it down even then only back an inch or so....no flying.

They went on to explain nutions law of action reaction...and that basic physics is that target basicly feels the same energey as the shooter feels in terms of recoil (muzzle breaks and such not calculated...so stright shot..no muzzle break felt recoil)...

In any case I found it to be an intersting thing to watch....(I often think in terms of power =Ft. Pounds of energey.....but this kinda points out that stoping power s more along the lines of the hole made...type of bullet ect..not that the target goes flying out of your house and off a clif after u shot it.

rebel727 · 06-07-2005, 09:02 PM

I always thought it was odd but from most of the C.W. battlefield histories and first hand accounts I've read most soldiers hit with .58 Minie balls fell face down. Some even died still standing till somebody came along and touched them.

Stopping power is mainly due to shock to the nervous system. A big slow bullet causes more shock than a small fast one.

Dallas · 06-07-2005, 09:20 PM

Hey rebel is that an argument in favor of the .45 ACP over the 9mm?

Doglips · 06-07-2005, 09:49 PM

OH GOD!!! ! NO the 9mm vs 45acp thing

But I do then to agree with big bullet vs super speed tiny one

Shaun · 06-07-2005, 09:59 PM

Oh no here we go again

jerry · 06-07-2005, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doglips

OH GOD!!! ! NO the 9mm vs 45acp thing

But I do then to agree with big bullet vs super speed tiny one

Somebody post a poll PLEEEEEAZE! :jaw:

PAPA G · 06-07-2005, 10:46 PM

a head shot from the rear will cause a body to snap back. the gummint say so.

06-08-2005, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAPA G

a head shot from the rear will cause a body to snap back. the gummint say so.

Arlen Specter and the Warren Commission say so

06-08-2005, 05:53 AM

back on topic "The Big Hit" was a movie where 9mm bullets were throwing people everywhere...

Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
Film fans might someday recognize 1997 and '98 as the years Hong Kong came to Hollywood. Stars Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Chow Yun-Fat, Jet Li, and Michelle Yeoh all appeared in major Hollywood projects and directors John Woo, Ronny Yu, and Tsui Hark directed Face/Off, Bride of Chucky, and Knock Off, respectively. Another entry into this new era of entertainment is The Big Hit, directed by Che-Kirk Wong (who also directed Jackie Chan in Crime Story), executive produced by John Woo, and produced by Wesley Snipes. Mark Wahlberg leads this all-American cast in a played-for-laughs macho blowout. Rounding out the testosterone brigade are Lou Diamond Phillips (sprouting a gold-capped tooth and a dirty mouth), Bokeem Woodbine (who, according to this DVD's director audio track, wore extra socks where it counts), Antonio SabÃ*to Jr., and Avery Brooks. Wahlberg plays Melvin Smiley, a nice-guy hit man with an ulcer and a severe insecurity problem. He's short on cash due to the spending habits of his unsuspecting fiancÃ©e Pam (Christina Applegate) and his girlfriend-on-the-sly Chantel (Lela Rochon). He and his crew decide to do a little freelancing and cook up their own heist to make a little mo' money--specifically by kidnapping Keiko (China Chow), the daughter of a Japanese businessman whom they target for ransom. Little do they know her dad is broke and she's the goddaughter of their boss. The Big Hit has action scenes aplenty (one of the stunt coordinators worked on Woo's The Killer and Bullet in the Head) and the same cornball sense of humor as other films in the Hong Kong action genre. Slick pacing and over-the-top humor made this movie a miss with the critics but a fun ride for fans of Hong Kong-styled action. --Shannon Gee

rebel727 · 06-08-2005, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dallas

Hey rebel is that an argument in favor of the .45 ACP over the 9mm?

Jeez!! I wasn't trying to get anything started. But, Personally I do favor the .45 or even a .38 over the .9mm. Guess It'll really get started now.

:smash: :target:

PAPA G · 06-08-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logansdad

Arlen Specter and the Warren Commission say so

and "who "commisioned the commision???

inuyasha · 06-08-2005, 01:19 PM

.45 or 9mm? feh, carry both.. if one doesnt do the job, whip out the other.. im sure a clip or half a clip from both will solve your problem

SPOCAHP ANAR · 06-08-2005, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAPA G

a head shot from the rear will cause a body to snap back. the gummint say so.

Back and to the right....

Back and to the right....

Big Dog · 06-09-2005, 07:49 AM

And where can we get those 'magic bullets' that can hit a target three times, from three different directions? They'd be great for hunting! :right:

Shaun · 06-09-2005, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dog

And where can we get those 'magic bullets' that can hit a target three times, from three different directions? They'd be great for hunting! :right:

if you ever find them tell me they would sell incredibily well

Doglips · 06-09-2005, 10:44 AM

I prefer the movie style hi-capacity revolvers 100 shot cylenders no problem

tommy · 06-09-2005, 11:40 AM

all the videos i have seen of execution the guy just fell over wether he was shot with an ak47 or a .9mm. and when they shot them in the head they just went limp and fell over .i never seen any heads snap back.

Mandy · 06-10-2005, 05:11 PM

:assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult:

The most espectacular is the side by side S/G being pumped up to 17 times without reloading .........

:full: :full: :full: :full: :full:

Mandy · 06-10-2005, 05:16 PM

:full: :full: :full: :full: :full:

For the .45 ACP vs. 9mm x 19 argument, I would say it got settled with the .40 SW rnd, just the big cal punch with the high capacity of the smaller rnds.

.40 SW was the gods gift to us the mere mortals so we don't have to argue about .45 ACP vs. 9mm x 19

Oops, did I stated something?

:smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:

Otter · 06-10-2005, 06:45 PM

I popped a guy in the forehead with a 230gr .45 and the only part of him that flew backwards was his brain.

06-07-2005, 08:37 PM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	Myth Busters...shooting victim flying backwards I dont know if any..or how many of you all watch the show myth busters ....I have the digital recorder so usaly run through the recorded shows on my day off...most are kinda silly myths that they put to the test....the other day they had one that cought my intrest....we all see people in movies get shot...end up flying back 5 foot...through windows and doors. Welp Myth busters took a dead pig..suspended it so if it moved it would be free to go back and of course fall down...some police officers were paid to shoot it.....9mm, 45acp,44mag, 223, 308 and even 12 guage slug...no movement...the slug made it go back 1 inch and fall down...no flying...so full auto weapons were used...3 full auto (9mm and 223) shooint at same time...no real movement. SO they took a crash test dummy..put put a bullet proff vest and repeated it....high spped camras showed the bullets makeing the vest bounce but only 12 guage 00 buck knocked it down even then only back an inch or so....no flying. They went on to explain nutions law of action reaction...and that basic physics is that target basicly feels the same energey as the shooter feels in terms of recoil (muzzle breaks and such not calculated...so stright shot..no muzzle break felt recoil)... In any case I found it to be an intersting thing to watch....(I often think in terms of power =Ft. Pounds of energey.....but this kinda points out that stoping power s more along the lines of the hole made...type of bullet ect..not that the target goes flying out of your house and off a clif after u shot it.

06-07-2005, 09:02 PM	#2
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,549	I always thought it was odd but from most of the C.W. battlefield histories and first hand accounts I've read most soldiers hit with .58 Minie balls fell face down. Some even died still standing till somebody came along and touched them. Stopping power is mainly due to shock to the nervous system. A big slow bullet causes more shock than a small fast one. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

06-07-2005, 09:59 PM	#5
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	Oh no here we go again __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

06-09-2005, 07:49 AM	#14
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	And where can we get those 'magic bullets' that can hit a target three times, from three different directions? They'd be great for hunting! :right: __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

06-10-2005, 05:11 PM	#18
Mandy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 1,641	side by side S/G :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: The most espectacular is the side by side S/G being pumped up to 17 times without reloading ......... :full: :full: :full: :full: :full: __________________ :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: Better be judged by 12 than carried by 6. _________________________________ If you gonna die, die with your boots on ! Iron Maiden _________________________________ The deeper you go, the better it feels ! Divers Motto :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: Last edited by Mandy; 06-10-2005 at 05:17 PM.

06-07-2005, 09:20 PM	#3
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,595	Hey rebel is that an argument in favor of the .45 ACP over the 9mm?

06-07-2005, 09:49 PM	#4
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	OH GOD!!! ! NO the 9mm vs 45acp thing But I do then to agree with big bullet vs super speed tiny one

06-07-2005, 10:46 PM	#7
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	a head shot from the rear will cause a body to snap back. the gummint say so.

06-08-2005, 05:53 AM	#9
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	back on topic "The Big Hit" was a movie where 9mm bullets were throwing people everywhere... Editorial Reviews Amazon.com Film fans might someday recognize 1997 and '98 as the years Hong Kong came to Hollywood. Stars Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Chow Yun-Fat, Jet Li, and Michelle Yeoh all appeared in major Hollywood projects and directors John Woo, Ronny Yu, and Tsui Hark directed Face/Off, Bride of Chucky, and Knock Off, respectively. Another entry into this new era of entertainment is The Big Hit, directed by Che-Kirk Wong (who also directed Jackie Chan in Crime Story), executive produced by John Woo, and produced by Wesley Snipes. Mark Wahlberg leads this all-American cast in a played-for-laughs macho blowout. Rounding out the testosterone brigade are Lou Diamond Phillips (sprouting a gold-capped tooth and a dirty mouth), Bokeem Woodbine (who, according to this DVD's director audio track, wore extra socks where it counts), Antonio SabÃ*to Jr., and Avery Brooks. Wahlberg plays Melvin Smiley, a nice-guy hit man with an ulcer and a severe insecurity problem. He's short on cash due to the spending habits of his unsuspecting fiancÃ©e Pam (Christina Applegate) and his girlfriend-on-the-sly Chantel (Lela Rochon). He and his crew decide to do a little freelancing and cook up their own heist to make a little mo' money--specifically by kidnapping Keiko (China Chow), the daughter of a Japanese businessman whom they target for ransom. Little do they know her dad is broke and she's the goddaughter of their boss. The Big Hit has action scenes aplenty (one of the stunt coordinators worked on Woo's The Killer and Bullet in the Head) and the same cornball sense of humor as other films in the Hong Kong action genre. Slick pacing and over-the-top humor made this movie a miss with the critics but a fun ride for fans of Hong Kong-styled action. --Shannon Gee

06-08-2005, 01:19 PM	#12
inuyasha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: US occupied territories of "south dakota" Posts: 355	.45 or 9mm? feh, carry both.. if one doesnt do the job, whip out the other.. im sure a clip or half a clip from both will solve your problem

06-09-2005, 10:44 AM	#16
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	I prefer the movie style hi-capacity revolvers 100 shot cylenders no problem

06-09-2005, 11:40 AM	#17
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,034 Images: 6	all the videos i have seen of execution the guy just fell over wether he was shot with an ak47 or a .9mm. and when they shot them in the head they just went limp and fell over .i never seen any heads snap back.

06-10-2005, 05:16 PM	#19
Mandy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 1,641	.40 SW rules fer sure !!!!!!! :full: :full: :full: :full: :full: For the .45 ACP vs. 9mm x 19 argument, I would say it got settled with the .40 SW rnd, just the big cal punch with the high capacity of the smaller rnds. .40 SW was the gods gift to us the mere mortals so we don't have to argue about .45 ACP vs. 9mm x 19 Oops, did I stated something? :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: __________________ :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: Better be judged by 12 than carried by 6. _________________________________ If you gonna die, die with your boots on ! Iron Maiden _________________________________ The deeper you go, the better it feels ! Divers Motto :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi:

06-10-2005, 06:45 PM	#20
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 955 Images: 6	I popped a guy in the forehead with a 230gr .45 and the only part of him that flew backwards was his brain. __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.