Sandra Day Oconnar steps down!!!!!!

SPOCAHP ANAR · 07-01-2005, 08:03 PM

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day Oconnar stepped down today. Its about to get real nasty in DC folks.

You can bet the filibuster deal is about to go out the window; get ready for the NUCLEAR OPTION!

Oxford · 07-01-2005, 09:27 PM

Ok...now with O'Conner out as a Supreme Court Justice, and Chief Justice Renquist about to have to make a decision because of his health problems, it looks more and more like Republican President George W. Bush will get an opportunity to have a long lasting influence on the supreme court with a couple of nominations.

This is gonna get really interesting.

:nod: But...you can be sure the Democrats have been planning a long time for who they will push for replacements.

.22guy · 07-01-2005, 09:43 PM

Yeah, the stuff is about to hit the fan. You know the democrats will fight this with everything they have. They can't win any elections so they have to try to gain power through the courts. Aside from the fact they would fight Bush's nominees just because it's Bush.

Oxford · 07-01-2005, 10:37 PM

...and that's where the dirty politicking takes over. Both party's potential nominee(s) list will be picked apart endlessly till some lesser known judge with a record not clearly established yet will likely have a better chance than some well known existing top level judge of getting approved for a Supeme Court Justice. :nod:

SPOCAHP ANAR · 07-02-2005, 10:39 AM

I f I knew Bush was competent enough not to screw us anymore I would prefer him to nominate some liberal whacko judge and then let the Republicans Filibuster it in the senate just to piss of the DEMS.

Rave · 07-02-2005, 06:00 PM

Man,this came as a surprise to me,I figured that other old geezer would retire,guess he is going to hang in there until he keels over.

Dale · 07-03-2005, 09:43 AM

Yeah, the big news locally is that the Democrats are looking forward to 'restructuring the Courts'.

Scary.

But, then again, I decided a long time ago not to sweat the things I cannot change.

And sending letters to Senators, House Representatives, President, and the like is useless since they are out for their own agenda (uncaring if they get the next term or not as long as the big money is made from special interest groups) so everyone's voice goes unheard.

I'm afraid our only hope in this case is if the Republicans have enough havos to hang in there against the Democrats and fight for who they think would best benefit us and not run like polical cowards.

I also think that the two sides get together at times and figure out a way to collectively stuff us but we just aren't aware of the right side turning on us at times.

Rufus Rhastus J · 07-03-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day Oconnar stepped down today. Its about to get real nasty in DC folks.

You can bet the filibuster deal is about to go out the window; get ready for the NUCLEAR OPTION!

I'd like it better if she'd step infront of a bus...or...maybe step down and miss the step and break her hip! Like janet reno, death is not good enough for her. :nod:

Rave · 07-04-2005, 09:40 AM

After reading Sunday's paper it seems it is just a question of which Hispanic gets the position. :lucky:

SPOCAHP ANAR · 07-04-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus Rhastus J

I'd like it better if she'd step infront of a bus...or...maybe step down and miss the step and break her hip! Like janet reno, death is not good enough for her. :nod:

What did she do to pizz you off Ruf

troy2000 · 07-04-2005, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

What did she do to pizz you off Ruf

I strongly disagreed with her sometimes, but I think Mrs. O'Connor is a class act. Anyone who pisses off the Far Right half the time, and the Far Left the other half of the time, might be doing something right, like maybe actually thinking. Growing up on an Arizona ranch probably helped shape her as a pragmatist instead of an ideologue.

If I understand right, she's resigning to take care of her husband, who has Alzheimer's. That should cause her enough grief to satisfy the people who don't like her, but she has my best wishes...

SPOCAHP ANAR · 07-04-2005, 10:45 AM

Troy she had a great dissenting piece in the recent land grab for taxes decision.

Whatever wrongs she may have done in the past, she earned my respect that day.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 07-04-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rave

After reading Sunday's paper it seems it is just a question of which Hispanic gets the position. :lucky:

Someone made note that it may be Bush's White House counsel; Alvarez, I believe.

You know you don't hear a whole lot out of the talking heads from either side about how they are only nominating them because of their (insert here) minority status.

troy2000 · 07-04-2005, 11:02 AM

A lot of people are talking up Alberto Gonzales, and that doesn't sit well with me. I have no respect for a man who writes memo's splitting hairs about what constitutes torture. I find it incredible that he could argue that it's just fine unless it causes permanent, irreversible damage. By that definition, splinters under the fingernails don't qualify, because the victim will heal.

There is also the point that torture is a notoriously unreliable method of collecting information, that it does us more damage than good by pissing off people, etc. In WWII, many Germans surrendered to American forces, rather than fight to the bitter end, because we had a reputation for having treated prisoners well in WWI.

Dale · 07-04-2005, 03:25 PM

She sided on our side more than not.

Dale · 07-04-2005, 03:27 PM

BTW...comparing her to Janet Reno is like saying a hog in heat is like a steer with a *&%$ on.

07-01-2005, 08:03 PM	#1
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,463 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	Sandra Day Oconnar steps down!!!!!! Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day Oconnar stepped down today. Its about to get real nasty in DC folks. You can bet the filibuster deal is about to go out the window; get ready for the NUCLEAR OPTION! __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

07-01-2005, 09:27 PM	#2
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 14,098 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 4	Ok...now with O'Conner out as a Supreme Court Justice, and Chief Justice Renquist about to have to make a decision because of his health problems, it looks more and more like Republican President George W. Bush will get an opportunity to have a long lasting influence on the supreme court with a couple of nominations. This is gonna get really interesting. :nod: But...you can be sure the Democrats have been planning a long time for who they will push for replacements. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

07-01-2005, 10:37 PM	#4
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 14,098 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 4	...and that's where the dirty politicking takes over. Both party's potential nominee(s) list will be picked apart endlessly till some lesser known judge with a record not clearly established yet will likely have a better chance than some well known existing top level judge of getting approved for a Supeme Court Justice. :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

07-02-2005, 10:39 AM	#5
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,463 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	I f I knew Bush was competent enough not to screw us anymore I would prefer him to nominate some liberal whacko judge and then let the Republicans Filibuster it in the senate just to piss of the DEMS. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

07-02-2005, 06:00 PM	#6
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 8,436	Man,this came as a surprise to me,I figured that other old geezer would retire,guess he is going to hang in there until he keels over. __________________ Better days are comeing! .

07-01-2005, 09:43 PM	#3
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,221	Yeah, the stuff is about to hit the fan. You know the democrats will fight this with everything they have. They can't win any elections so they have to try to gain power through the courts. Aside from the fact they would fight Bush's nominees just because it's Bush.

07-03-2005, 09:43 AM	#7
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,288	Yeah, the big news locally is that the Democrats are looking forward to 'restructuring the Courts'. Scary. But, then again, I decided a long time ago not to sweat the things I cannot change. And sending letters to Senators, House Representatives, President, and the like is useless since they are out for their own agenda (uncaring if they get the next term or not as long as the big money is made from special interest groups) so everyone's voice goes unheard. I'm afraid our only hope in this case is if the Republicans have enough havos to hang in there against the Democrats and fight for who they think would best benefit us and not run like polical cowards. I also think that the two sides get together at times and figure out a way to collectively stuff us but we just aren't aware of the right side turning on us at times. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

07-04-2005, 09:40 AM	#9
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 8,436	After reading Sunday's paper it seems it is just a question of which Hispanic gets the position. :lucky: __________________ Better days are comeing! .

07-04-2005, 10:45 AM	#12
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,463 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	Troy she had a great dissenting piece in the recent land grab for taxes decision. Whatever wrongs she may have done in the past, she earned my respect that day. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

07-04-2005, 11:02 AM	#14
troy2000 Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 14,554 Images: 9	A lot of people are talking up Alberto Gonzales, and that doesn't sit well with me. I have no respect for a man who writes memo's splitting hairs about what constitutes torture. I find it incredible that he could argue that it's just fine unless it causes permanent, irreversible damage. By that definition, splinters under the fingernails don't qualify, because the victim will heal. There is also the point that torture is a notoriously unreliable method of collecting information, that it does us more damage than good by pissing off people, etc. In WWII, many Germans surrendered to American forces, rather than fight to the bitter end, because we had a reputation for having treated prisoners well in WWI.

07-04-2005, 03:25 PM	#15
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,288	She sided on our side more than not. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

07-04-2005, 03:27 PM	#16
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,288	BTW...comparing her to Janet Reno is like saying a hog in heat is like a steer with a *&%$ on. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me