A.t.f. ?

whirlwind · 09-21-2005, 11:38 PM

just curious if anyone has ever heard of the atf arresting anyone for alcohol or tobacco related crimes? i sure cant think of one. guess they should change their name lol

Rave · 09-22-2005, 10:36 AM

During prohibition it was a tax collecting out fit,when prohibition ended they had a hugh staff so they started to go after gun owners,ATF,they became very corrupt and desperate for funding,a typical gumming burracuracy fighting for life so now they include explosive devices,anti-terror,now they have the key and will not only survive,but fluorish.
The only problem they face is compitition from the FBI,and they are stronger than the ATF etc.
We will have to pay as fodder for them to fight over,gummint running amok! :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :smash:

Shaun · 09-22-2005, 10:47 AM

I keep wondering if they are going to get a buddy of mine who has brought back a few cohiba's that he is planning to sell when he gets home.

jerry · 09-22-2005, 01:03 PM

Reminds me of the new Nick Cage movie. " I take it your not here about the alcohol or tabacco"

troylaplante · 09-22-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry

Reminds me of the new Nick Cage movie. " I take it your not here about the alcohol or tabacco"

I thought of that line when reading the thread, too. I love that line. The movie is "Lord of War" I am looking forward to seeing it.

troylaplante · 09-22-2005, 06:10 PM

Trivia about the movie "Lord of War", from the IMDB.com web site:

According to Andrew Niccol, the filmmakers worked with actual gunrunners in the making of the film. The tanks lined up for sale were owned by a gunrunner who had to have them back to sell to another country. They used a real stockpile of over 3,000 AK-47s because it was cheaper than getting prop guns. The gunrunners were more cooperative and efficient than the studio or the crew.

Rave · 09-22-2005, 08:43 PM

"spect they aim to please!

Troy · 09-22-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by troylaplante

Trivia about the movie "Lord of War", from the IMDB.com web site:

The gunrunners were more cooperative and efficient than the studio or the crew.

who says that those boys are all bad? :gangster:

rebel727 · 09-22-2005, 09:31 PM

My second wife's oldest was a gun runner till he died. I got to shoot a lot of really cool stuff and he paid for all the ammo.

TULAver · 09-22-2005, 09:42 PM

They(ATF) nab the occasional 18 wheeler full of illegal cigarettes with missing or counterfeit tax stamps. Hadn't heard tell of any revenuers goin into the backwoods in recent years though. I think with the prevalance of PCP and Meth labs, bootleggers fall under the eye of DEA more often now, just as a matter of proximity and... side projects.

troylaplante · 09-23-2005, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TULAver

Hadn't heard tell of any revenuers goin into the backwoods in recent years though. I think with the prevalance of PCP and Meth labs, bootleggers fall under the eye of DEA more often now

Around there, the local sheriff is very active in finding and dismantling stills and meth labs.

EOD Guy · 09-23-2005, 12:58 PM

BATF does not have anything to do with alcohol or tobacco anymore. When they were transferred to the Department of Justice, the alcohol and tobacco functions were assigned to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau of the Treasury Department.

Dennis · 09-23-2005, 01:55 PM

The "culture" in the Batfe is just plain BAD.
there is nothing sacred to them not the constitution, not anything.
They do as they wish careing not at all for anyone but themselves.
If they choose to direct their attention at you, prepare yourself.
their great game is bankrupting people and in the end haveing un proveable charges that where made up in the first place.
They destroy peoples lives just for sport.
It is a sick thing too see.

Rave · 09-24-2005, 09:08 AM

Bastids! And they will be joined by more competing agencies soon,stay the course!

BattleRifleG3 · 09-24-2005, 06:44 PM

I have considered making the first license I apply to the BATF for to be one for distilling alchohol. I would use it for fuel, either for an alchohol burning vehicle or to supplement regular gasoline at the appropriate proportions.

Troy · 09-24-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

I have considered making the first license I apply to the BATF for to be one for distilling alchohol. I would use it for fuel, either for an alchohol burning vehicle or to supplement regular gasoline at the appropriate proportions.

good excuse, i'm gonna try that one. j/k LOL

09-21-2005, 11:38 PM	#1
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,730 Trader Rating: (0)	A.t.f. ? just curious if anyone has ever heard of the atf arresting anyone for alcohol or tobacco related crimes? i sure cant think of one. guess they should change their name lol __________________ De oppresso liber !

09-22-2005, 10:36 AM	#2
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,744 Trader Rating: (0)	During prohibition it was a tax collecting out fit,when prohibition ended they had a hugh staff so they started to go after gun owners,ATF,they became very corrupt and desperate for funding,a typical gumming burracuracy fighting for life so now they include explosive devices,anti-terror,now they have the key and will not only survive,but fluorish. The only problem they face is compitition from the FBI,and they are stronger than the ATF etc. We will have to pay as fodder for them to fight over,gummint running amok! :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :smash: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

09-22-2005, 10:47 AM	#3
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	I keep wondering if they are going to get a buddy of mine who has brought back a few cohiba's that he is planning to sell when he gets home. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

09-22-2005, 01:03 PM	#4
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,760 Trader Rating: (0)	Reminds me of the new Nick Cage movie. " I take it your not here about the alcohol or tabacco" __________________

09-22-2005, 08:43 PM	#7
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,744 Trader Rating: (0)	"spect they aim to please! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

09-22-2005, 06:10 PM	#6
troylaplante Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Selma, NC Posts: 2,223 Trader Rating: (0)	Trivia about the movie "Lord of War", from the IMDB.com web site: According to Andrew Niccol, the filmmakers worked with actual gunrunners in the making of the film. The tanks lined up for sale were owned by a gunrunner who had to have them back to sell to another country. They used a real stockpile of over 3,000 AK-47s because it was cheaper than getting prop guns. The gunrunners were more cooperative and efficient than the studio or the crew.

09-22-2005, 09:31 PM	#9
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,512 Trader Rating: (0)	My second wife's oldest was a gun runner till he died. I got to shoot a lot of really cool stuff and he paid for all the ammo. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

09-22-2005, 09:42 PM	#10
TULAver Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 372 Trader Rating: (0)	They(ATF) nab the occasional 18 wheeler full of illegal cigarettes with missing or counterfeit tax stamps. Hadn't heard tell of any revenuers goin into the backwoods in recent years though. I think with the prevalance of PCP and Meth labs, bootleggers fall under the eye of DEA more often now, just as a matter of proximity and... side projects. __________________ It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that any people you meet from time to time are merely the product of a deranged imagination.

09-23-2005, 12:58 PM	#12
EOD Guy Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	BATF does not have anything to do with alcohol or tobacco anymore. When they were transferred to the Department of Justice, the alcohol and tobacco functions were assigned to the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau of the Treasury Department.

09-23-2005, 01:55 PM	#13
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,876 Trader Rating: (0)	The "culture" in the Batfe is just plain BAD. there is nothing sacred to them not the constitution, not anything. They do as they wish careing not at all for anyone but themselves. If they choose to direct their attention at you, prepare yourself. their great game is bankrupting people and in the end haveing un proveable charges that where made up in the first place. They destroy peoples lives just for sport. It is a sick thing too see. __________________ Submitted with respect to all

09-24-2005, 09:08 AM	#14
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,744 Trader Rating: (0)	Bastids! And they will be joined by more competing agencies soon,stay the course! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

09-24-2005, 06:44 PM	#15
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	I have considered making the first license I apply to the BATF for to be one for distilling alchohol. I would use it for fuel, either for an alchohol burning vehicle or to supplement regular gasoline at the appropriate proportions. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf