Used to have a saing back in the Forward Air Controll Days

jerry · 09-25-2005, 07:06 PM

FAC it!
Just FAC it.
ya get my drift? :smash:

Shaun · 09-25-2005, 07:56 PM

here you go Jerry http://www.studiowings.com/video/military.html

1963duce100 · 09-25-2005, 09:29 PM

I did the FAC thing when I was in Aviano
here was my jet

mudtoy67 · 09-26-2005, 01:44 AM

Ok, I'll say it......what does FAC mean?

Mick · 09-26-2005, 02:49 AM

I was thinking the same thing.??

Big Dog · 09-26-2005, 04:25 AM

'Forward Air Controller'. I'll leave it to the First Seargent to explain the mission.

jerry · 09-26-2005, 06:47 AM

good book..."The Rescue of Bat 21" DARRELL WHITCOMB also made into a movie

Big Dog · 09-26-2005, 09:43 AM

I have the movie - Gene Hackman, Danny Glover and Jerry Reed. Good movie!
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http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/histo...cue/res13a.htm

In one of the most bizarre rescues of the Vietnam War, Lt. Col. Iceal Hambleton was recovered from enemy territory in northern South Vietnam after 11 1/2 days on the ground. This was the largest rescue operation in USAF History. On Easter Sunday, April 2, 1972, Col. Hambleton was flying as navigator in an EB-66 electronic counter-measures aircraft (callsign Bat-21). When the aircraft was struck by a surface-to-air missile (SAM), he was the only man to eject safely, landing near a busy highway junction on a Communist supply route. Intelligence sources reported the area contained 30,000 enemy troops. (While initially awaiting rescue, Hambleton directed USAF aircraft which destroyed many enemy vehicles on the highways.) Intense ground fire prevented the first attempts to rescue him. A plan was devised to direct him by radio contact with a forward air controller (FAC) aircraft to a safer pick-up point. USAF reconnaissance aircraft photographed the area and photo analysts laid out a course for him to follow to a river two miles away. Hambleton, an avid golfer, remembered in great detail various golf courses where he had played. To guide him safely past enemy camps, gun emplacements, and unfriendly villages and then downstream to a rescue point, specific holes at certain courses were used to establish distance and direction of travel for each segment of his journey.

Traveling only at night, he reached the tenth day, exhausted and with nothing to eat or drink since bailout except several ears of corn and rainwater. Floating downstream, at the last "hole" he was met by a Navy SEAL (SEa-Air-Land) Lt. Thomas R. Norris and a Vietnamese Ranger who had stolen a boat. Despite several enemy ambushes, they delivered Hambleton to a waiting USAF helicopter which took off under enemy fire. Hambleton's experience was the basis for a book and a movie, but neither portrayed the complexity of the operation, the exotic technology or number of people involved in the rescue. 234 medals were awarded to individuals for this rescue and Lt. Norris received the Medal of Honor for his role in this and a related rescue.

Displayed on the mannequin (in the Museum's actual rescue gallery) are the baseball cap, monocular, and glasses which Col. Hambleton had with him when rescued. His original flight suit was taken from him in the hospital for laundering, but he was transferred before it was returned. The URC-64 survival radio was his most important survival item. He was enthusiastic about how well it worked despite submersion in water and other hardships. The framed photomontage was composed of reconnaissance photos and was used to plan the escape route, since there were no usable maps of the area. The plaque was given to him by the commander, 42nd Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron in memory of the EB-66 crew members who died.
(Donated by Lt. Col. Iceal Hambleton, USAF (Ret), Tucson, Arizona)

Otter · 09-26-2005, 04:03 PM

Let's not forget the men who died attempting rescue.

"Life is too important to be taken seriously."

Otter · 09-26-2005, 04:16 PM

Big Dog remember this?

Friendly FAC, Friendly FAC,
This is Green Beret,
We see you flying high above,
out of dangers way,
if you could spare a moment,
to help your fellow man,
kindly try to find me,
and tell me where I am.

Green Beret, Green Beret,
this is friendly FAC
if you see me overhead
you are still in SAC
still I'll try to find you
and set you people straight
but hurry cause it's steak night
and I don't want to be late.

From "In Country"

"Life is too important to be taken seriously."

09-25-2005, 07:06 PM	#1
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09-25-2005, 07:56 PM	#2
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09-26-2005, 01:44 AM	#4
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09-26-2005, 02:49 AM	#5
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09-26-2005, 04:25 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,067 Trader Rating: (0)	'Forward Air Controller'. I'll leave it to the First Seargent to explain the mission. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

09-25-2005, 09:29 PM	#3
1963duce100 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 120 Trader Rating: (0)	I did the FAC thing when I was in Aviano here was my jet

09-26-2005, 06:47 AM	#7
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,760 Trader Rating: (0)	good book..."The Rescue of Bat 21" DARRELL WHITCOMB also made into a movie __________________

09-26-2005, 09:43 AM	#8
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,067 Trader Rating: (0)	I have the movie - Gene Hackman, Danny Glover and Jerry Reed. Good movie! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/histo...cue/res13a.htm In one of the most bizarre rescues of the Vietnam War, Lt. Col. Iceal Hambleton was recovered from enemy territory in northern South Vietnam after 11 1/2 days on the ground. This was the largest rescue operation in USAF History. On Easter Sunday, April 2, 1972, Col. Hambleton was flying as navigator in an EB-66 electronic counter-measures aircraft (callsign Bat-21). When the aircraft was struck by a surface-to-air missile (SAM), he was the only man to eject safely, landing near a busy highway junction on a Communist supply route. Intelligence sources reported the area contained 30,000 enemy troops. (While initially awaiting rescue, Hambleton directed USAF aircraft which destroyed many enemy vehicles on the highways.) Intense ground fire prevented the first attempts to rescue him. A plan was devised to direct him by radio contact with a forward air controller (FAC) aircraft to a safer pick-up point. USAF reconnaissance aircraft photographed the area and photo analysts laid out a course for him to follow to a river two miles away. Hambleton, an avid golfer, remembered in great detail various golf courses where he had played. To guide him safely past enemy camps, gun emplacements, and unfriendly villages and then downstream to a rescue point, specific holes at certain courses were used to establish distance and direction of travel for each segment of his journey. Traveling only at night, he reached the tenth day, exhausted and with nothing to eat or drink since bailout except several ears of corn and rainwater. Floating downstream, at the last "hole" he was met by a Navy SEAL (SEa-Air-Land) Lt. Thomas R. Norris and a Vietnamese Ranger who had stolen a boat. Despite several enemy ambushes, they delivered Hambleton to a waiting USAF helicopter which took off under enemy fire. Hambleton's experience was the basis for a book and a movie, but neither portrayed the complexity of the operation, the exotic technology or number of people involved in the rescue. 234 medals were awarded to individuals for this rescue and Lt. Norris received the Medal of Honor for his role in this and a related rescue. Displayed on the mannequin (in the Museum's actual rescue gallery) are the baseball cap, monocular, and glasses which Col. Hambleton had with him when rescued. His original flight suit was taken from him in the hospital for laundering, but he was transferred before it was returned. The URC-64 survival radio was his most important survival item. He was enthusiastic about how well it worked despite submersion in water and other hardships. The framed photomontage was composed of reconnaissance photos and was used to plan the escape route, since there were no usable maps of the area. The plaque was given to him by the commander, 42nd Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron in memory of the EB-66 crew members who died. (Donated by Lt. Col. Iceal Hambleton, USAF (Ret), Tucson, Arizona) __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

09-26-2005, 04:03 PM	#9
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 940 Trader Rating: (0)	Let's not forget the men who died attempting rescue. "Life is too important to be taken seriously." __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.

09-26-2005, 04:16 PM	#10
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 940 Trader Rating: (0)	Big Dog remember this? Friendly FAC, Friendly FAC, This is Green Beret, We see you flying high above, out of dangers way, if you could spare a moment, to help your fellow man, kindly try to find me, and tell me where I am. Green Beret, Green Beret, this is friendly FAC if you see me overhead you are still in SAC still I'll try to find you and set you people straight but hurry cause it's steak night and I don't want to be late. From "In Country" "Life is too important to be taken seriously." __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.