A friend sent me this pic. Enjoy

NorCalAshnjikov · 09-30-2005, 02:31 AM

pathetic

rebel727 · 09-30-2005, 10:41 PM

Made my first trip back into N.O. today. The devastation is mind boggling. All the pics lumped together wouldn't convey the realism of it. No words can accurately describe it. You just have to see it to fully realize the magnitude of it.

troy2000 · 09-30-2005, 10:47 PM

Umm...It's funny, and I laughed. But is there any remote possibility that the difference in the two pictures might also reflect lessons learned between the two events?

You aren't going to get very far with me by pounding the theme that half the country has its head up its rear, and the other half is 100% competent. The last I heard, "Brownie" and Michael Chertoff were still Republicans, as was David Safavian, Bush's 38-year-old head of OMB (Office of Management and Budget), who was overseeing 300 billion dollars a year with almost no prior experience. He hastily resigned last week, just before he was arrested. A Republican also is Julie Myers, Bush's nominee to head ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), whose major qualifications seem to be: (1) having been born the niece of General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and: (2) being good enough in bed to have recently wangled a wedding ring out of John F Wood, Chertoff's chief of staff at Homeland Security.

Shaun · 10-01-2005, 01:08 AM

I still say they need to turn the entire city into an industrial park and remove all housing that way there is no issue of housing being in a flood zone. I really doubt anyone in the country other than the mayor of N.O. would miss the city and its high crime rates.

Gyrene · 10-01-2005, 01:28 AM

The Senate Committee held up the Safavian appointment, and then the Senate approved him after the revelation of Safavians' Lobbying efforts were made public. Bush is not solely responsible for the appointment, though he should have pulled the name as soon as trouble was on the horizon!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092001758.html

About half of the people who hang out in Washington D. C. are probably on a wanted list, for a crime somewhere, and the other half are of questionable reputation (after all most are Lawyers). Bush was not my first choice, but he was the only choice gunowners had. He hasn't done anything for us, but he hasn't done anything against us, though through his bumbling, he may succeed in making it impossible to elect a Republican (even a RINO) at the next Presidential election.

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Big Dog · 10-01-2005, 05:40 AM

Give the French Quarter to Disney - Da mouse will have it self-supporting and making a profit within two years.
Ditto on the Industrial Park for the remainder of the city. All we need is the infrastructure for the oil and seaport industries. Employees can commute in.

I'd make about a 90 percent cut in welfare nationwide too, but that is for a different thread - maybe.

troy2000 · 10-01-2005, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gyrene

The Senate Committee held up the Safavian appointment, and then the Senate approved him after the revelation of Safavians' Lobbying efforts were made public. Bush is not solely responsible for the appointment, though he should have pulled the name as soon as trouble was on the horizon!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092001758.html

About half of the people who hang out in Washington D. C. are probably on a wanted list, for a crime somewhere, and the other half are of questionable reputation (after all most are Lawyers). Bush was not my first choice, but he was the only choice gunowners had. He hasn't done anything for us, but he hasn't done anything against us, though through his bumbling, he may succeed in making it impossible to elect a Republican (even a RINO) at the next Presidential election.

to get into office: guns, gays and God. They throw a few bones and make a few gestures. Then they get on with their real agenda, which since Reagan's time has mostly seemed to consist of deregulating everything in sight so they can loot, while claiming to be "reforming" government.

I don't claim all Dems are saints, by the way. I think either party should be turned out of power every few years, to break up the cozy arrangements.

I know Democrats as a group have pushed gun-control legislation, but is there evidence that Kerry himself is particularly anti-gun? I don't remember any, but I may not have been looking...

Dennis · 10-01-2005, 11:27 AM

HUH? What planet are you from?
Where have you been?
The Democrats are the Anti American American political Party.
Kerry was a traitor and still is
so many have lost a sense of country it is not "We" as in all americans their We is everyone in their political party.
the fact that their primary purpose is to alter everything that has been prior to their exsistence means that they wish to destroy and replace our nation with something they thought up that sounds great.
it is nieve to think that
but they do.
it wouldnt be so bad except that now in time of war so many millions can not summon the will to defend our nation and all they can do is gripe and wine and carp at the president.

so who is a we and who is a them
and when we choose up sides will the gun owning countryloveing americans spare the self loathing anti gun silly argumenative idiots that "just know" what everyone should do.....

Kerry was scrambling to appear pro-gun after decades of his voting for gun control legislation.
that is a matter of public record.

You know that.

so, what are you selling?

rebel727 · 10-01-2005, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

HUH? What planet are you from?
Where have you been?
The Democrats are the Anti American American political Party.
Kerry was a traitor and still is
so many have lost a sense of country it is not "We" as in all americans their We is everyone in their political party.
the fact that their primary purpose is to alter everything that has been prior to their exsistence means that they wish to destroy and replace our nation with something they thought up that sounds great.
it is nieve to think that
but they do.
it wouldnt be so bad except that now in time of war so many millions can not summon the will to defend our nation and all they can do is gripe and wine and carp at the president.

so who is a we and who is a them
and when we choose up sides will the gun owning countryloveing americans spare the self loathing anti gun silly argumenative idiots that "just know" what everyone should do.....

Kerry was scrambling to appear pro-gun after decades of his voting for gun control legislation.
that is a matter of public record.

You know that.

so, what are you selling?

Liberalism maybe?

Never trust the liberal press.

troylaplante · 10-01-2005, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy2000

Umm...It's funny, and I laughed. But is there any remote possibility that the difference in the two pictures might also reflect lessons learned between the two events?

It is a possibility, since we all know that this country has never been hit with a hurricane prior to Katrina from which we could have learned. :smash:

Quote:

You aren't going to get very far with me by pounding the theme that half the country has its head up its rear, and the other half is 100% competent.

Hey, try reading. I never said any such thing, I am not pounding that theme, never have been. I do think Democrats are more stupid than Republicans, but I am certainly no fan of the Republican Party. Republican is almost a curse word in my house about now. Nor do I care if I "get very far" with you. Do you see this thread with your name as an addressee anywhere? Nope.

troy2000 · 10-01-2005, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

HUH? What planet are you from?
Where have you been?
The Democrats are the Anti American American political Party.
Kerry was a traitor and still is
so many have lost a sense of country it is not "We" as in all americans their We is everyone in their political party.
the fact that their primary purpose is to alter everything that has been prior to their exsistence means that they wish to destroy and replace our nation with something they thought up that sounds great.
it is nieve to think that
but they do.
it wouldnt be so bad except that now in time of war so many millions can not summon the will to defend our nation and all they can do is gripe and wine and carp at the president.

so who is a we and who is a them
and when we choose up sides will the gun owning countryloveing americans spare the self loathing anti gun silly argumenative idiots that "just know" what everyone should do.....

Kerry was scrambling to appear pro-gun after decades of his voting for gun control legislation.
that is a matter of public record.

You know that.

so, what are you selling?

I don't run around claiming that anyone who doesn't agree with me politically is the spawn of Satan.

Somehow I have trouble believing that half the people in the country, and half the politicians in it, hate America and are trying to destroy it.

You remind me of those mullahs overseas, who say that anyone who disagrees with them hates God and needs to die. And if you had your way, you'd rule with as much blind hatred, intolerance and stupidity as they do.

You're obviously a graduate of the Karl Rove/Rush Limbaugh Graduate School of Politics. Enclosed with your diploma was a little cheat-sheet that reminded you to never argue the merits of any political question; instead you are to call your opponents traitors, morons, cowards, thieves, liberals, commies, treehuggers, feminazis, and/or any other label that relieves you of the obligation of actually spending ten minutes thinking before you run off your mouth.

troy2000 · 10-01-2005, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troylaplante

It is a possibility, since we all know that this country has never been hit with a hurricane prior to Katrina from which we could have learned. :smash:

Hey, try reading. I never said any such thing, I am not pounding that theme, never have been. I do think Democrats are more stupid than Republicans, but I am certainly no fan of the Republican Party. Republican is almost a curse word in my house about now. Nor do I care if I "get very far" with you. Do you see this thread with your name as an addressee anywhere? Nope.

and I wasn't trying to get personal. But if you post in a public forum, there is (or should be) a chance that someone's going to post a response that you don't like. It goes with the territory. And if you're contrasting Democratic leadership (bad) with Republican leadership (good), there's a very real possibility that someone might assume you're taking up for Republicans and dumping on Democrats. I was just trying to balance things out a little.

For the record, I'll repeat that I laughed. I enjoyed your post, and if you got the impression I was dumping on you I sincerely apologise.

On the other hand, if rebel727 wants to go to war, I'll oblige him. His post was blind stupid, and obnoxious.

rebel727 · 10-02-2005, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy2000

On the other hand, if rebel727 wants to go to war, I'll oblige him. His post was blind stupid, and obnoxious.

Just called it like I see it. So if I'm blind, stupid and obnoxious we're in the same boat together.

jamesfaync · 10-02-2005, 02:52 PM

come on guys relax. no need to get this post deleted or something. leave the insults for HCI.

rebel727 · 10-02-2005, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesfaync

come on guys relax. no need to get this post deleted or something. leave the insults for HCI.

You're right. No further comments. :right:

troy2000 · 10-02-2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebel727

You're right. No further comments. :right:

looks like it wasn't you who posted that "democrats are the anti-American party" stuff, rebel727; you just quoted it. And I better not start on whoever really said it, because I'll probably screw that one up too.

I'll just repeat my basic point instead, which is that people should be able to disagree politically, without one side accusing the other of being traitors. In spite of what Rush Limbaugh and other talk-show hosts say, you do not have to hate Democrats to love America, and I'm not sure why Republicans in the last few years suddenly decided they have an exclusive monopoly on patriotism.

If I were the cynical sort, I suppose I could quote Samuel Johnson here: "patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."

09-29-2005, 10:41 PM	#1
troylaplante Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Selma, NC Posts: 2,223	A friend sent me this pic. Enjoy Last edited by troylaplante; 09-30-2005 at 11:06 AM.

09-30-2005, 10:41 PM	#3
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,635	Made my first trip back into N.O. today. The devastation is mind boggling. All the pics lumped together wouldn't convey the realism of it. No words can accurately describe it. You just have to see it to fully realize the magnitude of it. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

10-01-2005, 01:08 AM	#5
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	I still say they need to turn the entire city into an industrial park and remove all housing that way there is no issue of housing being in a flood zone. I really doubt anyone in the country other than the mayor of N.O. would miss the city and its high crime rates. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

10-01-2005, 01:28 AM	#6
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	The Senate Committee held up the Safavian appointment, and then the Senate approved him after the revelation of Safavians' Lobbying efforts were made public. Bush is not solely responsible for the appointment, though he should have pulled the name as soon as trouble was on the horizon! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092001758.html About half of the people who hang out in Washington D. C. are probably on a wanted list, for a crime somewhere, and the other half are of questionable reputation (after all most are Lawyers). Bush was not my first choice, but he was the only choice gunowners had. He hasn't done anything for us, but he hasn't done anything against us, though through his bumbling, he may succeed in making it impossible to elect a Republican (even a RINO) at the next Presidential election. ` Last edited by Gyrene; 10-01-2005 at 01:32 AM.

10-01-2005, 05:40 AM	#7
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,412	Give the French Quarter to Disney - Da mouse will have it self-supporting and making a profit within two years. Ditto on the Industrial Park for the remainder of the city. All we need is the infrastructure for the oil and seaport industries. Employees can commute in. I'd make about a 90 percent cut in welfare nationwide too, but that is for a different thread - maybe. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

09-30-2005, 02:31 AM	#2
NorCalAshnjikov Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 688 Images: 1	pathetic

09-30-2005, 10:47 PM	#4
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,017 Images: 9	Umm...It's funny, and I laughed. But is there any remote possibility that the difference in the two pictures might also reflect lessons learned between the two events? You aren't going to get very far with me by pounding the theme that half the country has its head up its rear, and the other half is 100% competent. The last I heard, "Brownie" and Michael Chertoff were still Republicans, as was David Safavian, Bush's 38-year-old head of OMB (Office of Management and Budget), who was overseeing 300 billion dollars a year with almost no prior experience. He hastily resigned last week, just before he was arrested. A Republican also is Julie Myers, Bush's nominee to head ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), whose major qualifications seem to be: (1) having been born the niece of General Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and: (2) being good enough in bed to have recently wangled a wedding ring out of John F Wood, Chertoff's chief of staff at Homeland Security.

10-01-2005, 11:27 AM	#9
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,880	HUH? What planet are you from? Where have you been? The Democrats are the Anti American American political Party. Kerry was a traitor and still is so many have lost a sense of country it is not "We" as in all americans their We is everyone in their political party. the fact that their primary purpose is to alter everything that has been prior to their exsistence means that they wish to destroy and replace our nation with something they thought up that sounds great. it is nieve to think that but they do. it wouldnt be so bad except that now in time of war so many millions can not summon the will to defend our nation and all they can do is gripe and wine and carp at the president. so who is a we and who is a them and when we choose up sides will the gun owning countryloveing americans spare the self loathing anti gun silly argumenative idiots that "just know" what everyone should do..... Kerry was scrambling to appear pro-gun after decades of his voting for gun control legislation. that is a matter of public record. You know that. so, what are you selling? __________________ Submitted with respect to all

10-02-2005, 02:52 PM	#15
jamesfaync Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: fayetteville nc Posts: 167	come on guys relax. no need to get this post deleted or something. leave the insults for HCI.