CIA won't be held Accountable. WHAT THE . . .

Gyrene · 10-06-2005, 12:49 AM

It looks as though NOBODY has to be responsible anymore! That is one of the problems with the way kids are raised, they do not have to face reality, and get their butts whacked when they are wrong. There are consequences in life and getting their punishment for being wrong whether it is failure in school, and having to repeat the grade again, or doing something that should get their butts whacked, is how kids learn! Screw up in Marine Corps Boot Camp and see what happens!

Whether the CIA is willing to accept it or not, the Blood of over 3,000 people is on their hands! THEY BLEW IT BIG TIME!!! And several of them should pay BIG TIME whether they have retired or not, if they were involved at the time they were responsible!!!

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...805nine_eleven

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CIA will not pursue disciplinary action for Sept 11

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - CIA Director Porter Goss, defying the spy agency's inspector general, said on Wednesday that he will not pursue disciplinary action against former and current CIA officials over intelligence lapses involving the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Despite widespread calls for accountability, Goss said the CIA would risk undermining the readiness of its operatives to take risks in the U.S. war on terror if it were to single out individuals for missteps that occurred in the run-up to the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington.

CIA inspector general John Helgerson recommended in an internal report last August that Goss convene a performance accountability board to examine the roles played by specific CIA officials charged with protecting the United States against Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda network.

But Goss said the agency's shortcomings on September 11 stemmed not from individuals but from a lack of resources and personnel that dogged the CIA in the 1990s as a result of mandated post-Cold War cutbacks.

"In no way does this report suggest that any one person or group of people could have prevented 9/11. Of the officers named in this report, about half have retired from the agency, and those who are still with us are amongst the finest we have," he said in a statement issued by the CIA.

"Singling out these individuals would send the wrong message to our junior officers about taking risks, he said.

Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda are blamed for orchestrating the attacks that killed 3,000 people on September 11, 2001, and prompted U.S. President George W. Bush to launch the invasion of Afghanistan.

But a blue-ribbon presidential commission later blamed the CIA in a scathing 2004 report for errors that included an unwillingness to share intelligence about al Qaeda militants with other agencies including the FBI.

The inspector general's report, which is classified, was sent to Congress in August.

Media accounts say it criticized several officials including former CIA Director George Tenet, former deputy director of operations James Pavitt and former counterterrorism director Cofer Black. All three have left the agency.
In a response to calls for a public version of the report, Goss said he would leave that to the outcome of an individual request for its release under the Freedom of Information Act.

Tenet, who declined to comment on Goss' decision on accountability, resigned in July 2004 but later received a Presidential Medal of Freedom award from Bush. The award is America's highest civilian honor.
Neither Pavitt nor Black were immediately available to comment.
Goss' decision won firm backing from his boss, U.S. intelligence chief John Negroponte, who issued a statement supporting the CIA director.
But Goss, a former Republican Florida congressman who once chaired the House of Representatives intelligence committee, drew a mixed response from his former Republican and Democratic colleagues in Congress.
Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said he was concerned that Goss had avoided the very mechanism by which the CIA determines whether punitive action is warranted.

The committee's senior Democrat, Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia, said the Goss decision raised a troubling question: "What failures in performance, if not these, warrant the convening of an accountability board at the CIA?"
But Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the Republican who succeeded Goss on the House intelligence panel, said the report showed there was no "smoking gun" that would have enabled U.S. officials to predict or prevent the attacks. "The time has come to look forward, not backwards punitively," Hoekstra said.

Angry September 11 family members heaped scorn on the decision.
"I find it reprehensible considering he (Goss) failed to carry out adequate oversight when he sat on the House intelligence committee," said Kristen Breitweiser, who heads a victims' relatives group called September 11 Advocates.

"No one has been held accountable for the failures on 9/11," she added.
10/05/05 18:53

Rufus Rhastus J · 10-06-2005, 10:19 AM

They rewarded everyone envolved in the Waco crap and Randy Weaver's situation....besides the date, what has changed? The government can never be expected to discipline itself.

Stopper · 10-06-2005, 10:55 AM

Whats the big story here?? Same old song and dance with this gummit-up or same chit different day or what makes you think they will ever change or gummit-up is as corrupt as the day is long or.........................this could go on forever.

Rave · 10-06-2005, 12:53 PM

S.O.S.! :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: (Band playing on!)

ash · 10-06-2005, 09:42 PM

If they punished their own people they would by default be admitting that they are, as a whole, unreliable and prone to mistakes and while they probably should, the government just don't work like that.

10-06-2005, 12:49 AM	#1
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	CIA won't be held Accountable. WHAT THE . . . It looks as though NOBODY has to be responsible anymore! That is one of the problems with the way kids are raised, they do not have to face reality, and get their butts whacked when they are wrong. There are consequences in life and getting their punishment for being wrong whether it is failure in school, and having to repeat the grade again, or doing something that should get their butts whacked, is how kids learn! Screw up in Marine Corps Boot Camp and see what happens! Whether the CIA is willing to accept it or not, the Blood of over 3,000 people is on their hands! THEY BLEW IT BIG TIME!!! And several of them should pay BIG TIME whether they have retired or not, if they were involved at the time they were responsible!!! http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...805nine_eleven ================================================== == CIA will not pursue disciplinary action for Sept 11 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - CIA Director Porter Goss, defying the spy agency's inspector general, said on Wednesday that he will not pursue disciplinary action against former and current CIA officials over intelligence lapses involving the September 11, 2001, attacks. Despite widespread calls for accountability, Goss said the CIA would risk undermining the readiness of its operatives to take risks in the U.S. war on terror if it were to single out individuals for missteps that occurred in the run-up to the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington. CIA inspector general John Helgerson recommended in an internal report last August that Goss convene a performance accountability board to examine the roles played by specific CIA officials charged with protecting the United States against Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda network. But Goss said the agency's shortcomings on September 11 stemmed not from individuals but from a lack of resources and personnel that dogged the CIA in the 1990s as a result of mandated post-Cold War cutbacks. "In no way does this report suggest that any one person or group of people could have prevented 9/11. Of the officers named in this report, about half have retired from the agency, and those who are still with us are amongst the finest we have," he said in a statement issued by the CIA. "Singling out these individuals would send the wrong message to our junior officers about taking risks, he said. Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda are blamed for orchestrating the attacks that killed 3,000 people on September 11, 2001, and prompted U.S. President George W. Bush to launch the invasion of Afghanistan. But a blue-ribbon presidential commission later blamed the CIA in a scathing 2004 report for errors that included an unwillingness to share intelligence about al Qaeda militants with other agencies including the FBI. The inspector general's report, which is classified, was sent to Congress in August. Media accounts say it criticized several officials including former CIA Director George Tenet, former deputy director of operations James Pavitt and former counterterrorism director Cofer Black. All three have left the agency. In a response to calls for a public version of the report, Goss said he would leave that to the outcome of an individual request for its release under the Freedom of Information Act. Tenet, who declined to comment on Goss' decision on accountability, resigned in July 2004 but later received a Presidential Medal of Freedom award from Bush. The award is America's highest civilian honor. Neither Pavitt nor Black were immediately available to comment. Goss' decision won firm backing from his boss, U.S. intelligence chief John Negroponte, who issued a statement supporting the CIA director. But Goss, a former Republican Florida congressman who once chaired the House of Representatives intelligence committee, drew a mixed response from his former Republican and Democratic colleagues in Congress. Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, said he was concerned that Goss had avoided the very mechanism by which the CIA determines whether punitive action is warranted. The committee's senior Democrat, Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia, said the Goss decision raised a troubling question: "What failures in performance, if not these, warrant the convening of an accountability board at the CIA?" But Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the Republican who succeeded Goss on the House intelligence panel, said the report showed there was no "smoking gun" that would have enabled U.S. officials to predict or prevent the attacks. "The time has come to look forward, not backwards punitively," Hoekstra said. Angry September 11 family members heaped scorn on the decision. "I find it reprehensible considering he (Goss) failed to carry out adequate oversight when he sat on the House intelligence committee," said Kristen Breitweiser, who heads a victims' relatives group called September 11 Advocates. "No one has been held accountable for the failures on 9/11," she added. 10/05/05 18:53

10-06-2005, 10:19 AM	#2
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	They rewarded everyone envolved in the Waco crap and Randy Weaver's situation....besides the date, what has changed? The government can never be expected to discipline itself. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

10-06-2005, 10:55 AM	#3
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,212 Images: 1	Whats the big story here?? Same old song and dance with this gummit-up or same chit different day or what makes you think they will ever change or gummit-up is as corrupt as the day is long or.........................this could go on forever. __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

10-06-2005, 12:53 PM	#4
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	S.O.S.! :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: :guitar: (Band playing on!) __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

10-06-2005, 09:42 PM	#5
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: En route Posts: 934 Images: 3	If they punished their own people they would by default be admitting that they are, as a whole, unreliable and prone to mistakes and while they probably should, the government just don't work like that.