[Thrawn]

Who knows?, maybe we can throw enough sand into the air to rid us all. You gotta love the effects of a nuclear holocaust.:nod:

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Thrawn

Who knows?, maybe we can throw enough sand into the air to rid us all. You gotta love the effects of a nuclear holocaust.:nod:

:flame: Imagine.....a new holocaust we could all cry about! :right: A muslem holocaust! Imagine all the government funded museums nation-wide! :joker: We could all pity the poor muslem, just like we are supposed to pity their brothers! Another usless group to spy on us and collect our hard earned tax dollors! I can see it all in lights! Imagine all the lies they can tell to support their lies, from before! Besides, a new holocaust would take our minds off of all the dead, dieing and maimed soldiers we have since all this got started.

[Rave]

Still in Saigon.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Come on Rave....you can do better than that.

[iflylow74]

Wow! Did I open a can O' worms or what???

[Rave]

It's all been covered in this and other threads in cluding the obvious including a statement by an unusually clear thinking individual when He said "Israel is the only democratic state in the middle East,a very important allie,but before there was Israel we had no enemies."

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Rave

It's all been covered in this and other threads in cluding the obvious including a statement by an unusually clear thinking individual when He said "Israel is the only democratic state in the middle East,a very important allie,but before there was Israel we had no enemies."

But yes, i remember. No need to say any more. :joker:

[Thrawn]

Some country, group, religion, etc has alawys hated America. If you really want someone to blame for 9/11 it's ourselves for letting a "government" tell us when, where, and how we can be armed. If there was more armed people in the U.S. today things would be a lot different. People are always gonna die and there will always be some nutjob trying to kill Americans, but If we all lived as free men should live many of these people would fail in their ambitions. Today it's middle easterners trying to kill us, tomorrow it could very well be chinese. The world is never going to change no matter how many soilders we send into some watering hole or how much money we dump into it.

[Thrawn]

I'll betcha if one nuclear bomb is dropped in the middle east, they'll start dropping everywhere.

[Father Time]

I have no problem picturing a terrorist in my sights, but I am uncomfortable with bombing a city just to get the bad guys. What city in what country, Syria Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Indonesia, Phillipines, etc. has a high enough concentration of evil people to justify frying everyone?

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Father Time

I have no problem picturing a terrorist in my sights, but I am uncomfortable with bombing a city just to get the bad guys. What city in what country, Syria Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Indonesia, Phillipines, etc. has a high enough concentration of evil people to justify frying everyone?

Imagine this: Rag head central......islamic jihad folks plan a new attack on the infedels! After the attack, they return to their nests to molest camels and shout "Death to America!" America, tired of !!!!!footing around drops a nuke on Rag head city! Millions killed and dieing. The whole world screams we are so cruel! We announce, that we will drop more bombs after any attacks on America. Don't matter what city, muslems are gona die if they do not leave America alone. More attacks, more bombs dropped. Pretty soone, the rag heads decide, I like my city, I don't want to die because some whacked out extreamists want to screw with those bad Americans. When there are no attacks on America, there are no bombs dropped. Maybe I'll narc out these radicals and save my city.........Do you follow me here? While I'd hate to make that decision myself, I fail to see a better way to solve the problem. Either they behave or face geneicide....in my book, it's just that simple. :joker: Of course, if you have a better plan, i'd like to hear it.

[Father Time]

My problem is, this is just like solving your termite problem with a flamethrower. It might solve the problem, but the side effects hurt more than the original problem.

More directly, the "side effects" are the horrible deaths of many innocents who could care less about the culture conflict between Western Culture and Islam.

Don't get me wrong. I carry a gun every day. I'm packing right now. If anyone threatens me or mine, they're toast. But I don't drive downtown looking for a chance for a preemptive strike.

[iflylow74]

I like Frank J's idea for world peace. It can be found at www.imao.us. It's called Nuke the Moon. The idea is simple. Send a couple of nukes to the moon. You probably would want to send them at different times so each time zone could see it. We also would want to have it announced before hand so everyone could be watching. The idea is when our enemies see the destruction we can rain down, maybe they would think twice about messing with us. Kinda like a school playground. Who does the bully pick on? The kid with a crazy look in his eyes as if he's ready to snap at any moment? Or the kid who sulks around afraid of his own shadow? I think our middle eastern friends would be rounding up these muzlim wacko's instead of supporting them!! :right:

[Thrawn]

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I think our middle eastern friends would be rounding up these muzlim wacko's instead of supporting them!!

oh yeah that's realistic.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Father Time

My problem is, this is just like solving your termite problem with a flamethrower. It might solve the problem, but the side effects hurt more than the original problem. More directly, the "side effects" are the horrible deaths of many innocents who could care less about the culture conflict between Western Culture and Islam. Don't get me wrong. I carry a gun every day. I'm packing right now. If anyone threatens me or mine, they're toast. But I don't drive downtown looking for a chance for a preemptive strike.

I'm just trying to make a point that what we are doing now seems to have little effect. We need to turn the fire up higher. We need to do something better than what we are doing. I don't have the answer but i know for sure, fighting this war with politics and kissing thier butts will not stop them from killing more Americans. And, it's Americans i care about. The rest can go to bHELL for all i care. Oh, and yes, i hate the idea of innocent folks being harmed....but, are they innocent if they know who these extremists are and do not come forward? In this case, innocent, unless the term is used in the strickest of terms, is kinda subjective, don't you think? Like the mosques, when the terrorist were hiding inside and we would not level the buildings. That's political correctness that's just too far gone. I would have leveled the buildings without a single thought. You don't want your church blasted, don't harbour criminals inside it! Our leaders need a good, swift kick in the buttocks! As doctor phil would say:"What are you thinking?" Thanks for understanding my post was extreme for illustration purposes only.

[Father Time]

I know that we both have the same goal. It's just a question of the degree of response. A little precision bombing of raghead central makes me feel better than nuking a whole region.

By the way, I am very impressed, (for the most part,) with the level of maturity and respect that Guns and Game posters show toward each other. On the other forum that I belong to, I would have been invited to leave the country or condemned to death for being such a soft, commie, pinko, liberal.

[Thrawn]

Never said I was worried about their welfare, I just really don't care for nukes.
You're right it seems that good soldiers are dying and the feds have nothing to show for it.

[Rave]

:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Thrawn

Never said I was worried about their welfare, I just really don't care for nukes. You're right it seems that good soldiers are dying and the feds have nothing to show for it.

this is the one thing that disturbs me the most....lose of our troops with little effect on the vermin. :joker: