10 reasons why gay marriage should be illegal

Rave · 10-27-2005, 10:44 AM

Good move!

Rufus Rhastus J · 10-27-2005, 10:54 AM

But, in the most unlikely event some of you may have forgotten....surffice it to say that a gasoline soaked and burning tire come to mind......as far as the marriage of gays...welll, I guess I'll be needing two tires, now won't I? :joker: :joker: :joker:

BattleRifleG3 · 10-27-2005, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Johan Malan

God Made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.
I used to be in the United church of Canada and left about 3 months ago because they allow gay marriges.
So now I'm church shopping

What's the Episcopal/Anglican Church in Canada like on that? In the US, it's at this point on a Diocesan basis. If your in the regions of Pittsburgh, Albany, Quincy, most of Texas, and most of the southeast, you're in good hands. If you're in eastern PA, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Connecticut (minus the dissenting "Connecticut Seven" congregations), or other uberliberal dioceses, another church would be a good idea. I don't forsee this as being the case forever. I suspect eventually we'll have two different Episcopal Churches.

Presbyterians are more split but between presbyteries and congregations are more live-and-let-be-gay.

Johan Malan · 10-27-2005, 05:38 PM

Anglican church allows faggots to marry but there has been a couple of ministers/priests who resigned over it.
I'm thinking of going to the Lutherin Church.
Growing up in South Africa We were in the Dutch reformed church and they would never have allowed chit like this....

Big Dog · 10-27-2005, 06:31 PM

Ruf, if you use tractor tires, they can go together. Isn't that nice . . . ?
(Said in my best 'Churchlady' voice.)

BattleRifleG3 · 10-27-2005, 08:42 PM

What's the presbyterian/reformed church like in Canada? In the US, we have the PCUSA, PCA (Pres Church of America), OPC (Orthodox Pres Church), and RP (Reformed Presbyterian). PCUSA is the whole spectrum, from gay ministers to gay ordinations to not being able to agree in council that Jesus is the only way to salvation (if you don't believe that, I don't hate you, but there's a name for your religion and it's not Christianity.) The national PCUSA seems to have been taken over politically by the DNC, but individual presbyteries are the same way as the Anglicans here, could go either way.
The PCA broke from the PCUSA generally starting in the south in the 70s over a number of issues, being more Biblical. The OPC was pretty similar but broke mainly in the north in the 30s. They've tried to merge but haven't been able to agree on everything.
The RP is not only doctrinally extremely conservative (does not necessarily mean Biblical) but restricts the singing in their services to the Psalms. On less formal services they do loosen up though.
There are other churches called "reformed", and I'm not sure how they compare to all the ones called presbyterian. The only one I went to they were all close to retirement, and I mean from life, not work.

Lutheran Church may be a good bet, though in the US they have had the same issues over liberalism. I think there are two major synods, one based in Missouri and one in Wisconsin, the former being Biblical, the latter not so much, but even so probably not as bad as the worst the Anglican or Presbyterian Church has to offer.

Me, I'm a Pittsburgh Anglican. We kick heretical arse.

hounddawg · 10-27-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rebel727

No comment

Me too. Seems I recall a similar thread a few months back that got closed because we hurled the epithet "FAGBOY" at one another once times too many

troy2000 · 10-27-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ctwo

I'm glad I was able to bring you to your senses.

your list was totally irrelelvent to the subject at hand, and most of his items were intended to point out the illogical nature of most arguments against gay marriage.

Don't get me wrong; gays (as a group) are not my favorite people...I worked in Hollywood building sets for several years, and got seriously tired of !!!!!y little art directors.

Johan Malan · 10-27-2005, 10:21 PM

Dont know much about the churches here (only been in Canada for a year) The Dutch reformed in SA used to be pretty conservative but been getting liberal in the last 10 years since Mandela and his hoodlus took over. It is one of the Oldest churches in the country probably been there since we colonized Africa.

Johan Malan · 10-27-2005, 10:24 PM

Battlerifle, Hounddwag might know more than me bout the Dutch reformed since he's an old Saffie himself

hounddawg · 10-27-2005, 10:54 PM

Sorry, Johan, you are now barking up a gun-totin' redneck Jew's tree.

toolman · 10-28-2005, 12:13 AM

The biggest problem with the gays is that so many of them are over-the-top, in-your-face about it. There is also a concerted push right now to force their acceptance in society even though many of us find their behavior deplorable and disgusting. I also believe that most of them have something external in their background that influenced their sexuality. This is totally unsubstantiated and based solely from conversations that I've had with the few that I've known over the years. Both of the guys that my wife attended stenograph school with said they were molested by a male family member when they were young. My grandkids' other grandmother was abused by her dad when she was a kid and after being in an abusive marriage for many years, she met a lesbian co-worker and ended up in a relationship with her to escape from her marriage.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-28-2005, 12:50 AM

Two lesbians I know who aren't over the top and in your face and have more to their identity than their sexuality both voted for Bush.

Snicker snicker...

Uncle Red · 10-28-2005, 01:25 AM

Good pun. I got it lickity split!!! HAHAHA!!!

-UR

Johan Malan · 10-28-2005, 01:27 AM

Sorry guys but this one is for hound: Is jy dan n Boere-Jood?
Lol

BattleRifleG3 · 10-28-2005, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Red

Good pun. I got it lickity split!!! HAHAHA!!!

-UR

They did vote for GW though.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-28-2005, 02:02 AM

On a more serious note, here's a good resource for info debunking the claims that homosexuality is natural and irreversible.
http://www.drthrockmorton.com/

And previews of a video on the subject:
http://www.drthrockmorton.com/article.asp?id=138

One of the most prominent organizations leading people out of homosexuality:
http://www.exodus.to/

hounddawg · 10-28-2005, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Johan Malan

Sorry guys but this one is for hound: Is jy dan n Boere-Jood?
Lol

Was, Johan. Was 'n Boere-Jood. Now I am in Tennessee, and since I found that the hill-billies can't be beat, I had no option. I joined them. Now I'm a redneck-Jew. Still can't dip (chew tobacco) or drink 'shine, but I've learned to cuss like one

Rufus Rhastus J · 10-28-2005, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

Ruf, if you use tractor tires, they can go together. Isn't that nice . . . ?
(Said in my best 'Churchlady' voice.)

That's a very good idea! I've not considered tractor tires before...just truck and passenger car tires. However, the larger tractor tires would burn longer and make more smoke! That would make for a better visual aide for them folks to get the message easier! :joker:

Rave · 10-28-2005, 10:50 AM

Gay marriage,think about it.......now,are you still for it? :joker:

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BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	What's the presbyterian/reformed church like in Canada? In the US, we have the PCUSA, PCA (Pres Church of America), OPC (Orthodox Pres Church), and RP (Reformed Presbyterian). PCUSA is the whole spectrum, from gay ministers to gay ordinations to not being able to agree in council that Jesus is the only way to salvation (if you don't believe that, I don't hate you, but there's a name for your religion and it's not Christianity.) The national PCUSA seems to have been taken over politically by the DNC, but individual presbyteries are the same way as the Anglicans here, could go either way. The PCA broke from the PCUSA generally starting in the south in the 70s over a number of issues, being more Biblical. The OPC was pretty similar but broke mainly in the north in the 30s. They've tried to merge but haven't been able to agree on everything. The RP is not only doctrinally extremely conservative (does not necessarily mean Biblical) but restricts the singing in their services to the Psalms. On less formal services they do loosen up though. There are other churches called "reformed", and I'm not sure how they compare to all the ones called presbyterian. The only one I went to they were all close to retirement, and I mean from life, not work. Lutheran Church may be a good bet, though in the US they have had the same issues over liberalism. I think there are two major synods, one based in Missouri and one in Wisconsin, the former being Biblical, the latter not so much, but even so probably not as bad as the worst the Anglican or Presbyterian Church has to offer. Me, I'm a Pittsburgh Anglican. We kick heretical arse. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

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10-27-2005, 05:38 PM	#24
Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	Anglican church allows faggots to marry but there has been a couple of ministers/priests who resigned over it. I'm thinking of going to the Lutherin Church. Growing up in South Africa We were in the Dutch reformed church and they would never have allowed chit like this....

10-27-2005, 10:21 PM	#29
Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	Dont know much about the churches here (only been in Canada for a year) The Dutch reformed in SA used to be pretty conservative but been getting liberal in the last 10 years since Mandela and his hoodlus took over. It is one of the Oldest churches in the country probably been there since we colonized Africa.

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Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	Battlerifle, Hounddwag might know more than me bout the Dutch reformed since he's an old Saffie himself

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toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,852 Blog Entries: 24	The biggest problem with the gays is that so many of them are over-the-top, in-your-face about it. There is also a concerted push right now to force their acceptance in society even though many of us find their behavior deplorable and disgusting. I also believe that most of them have something external in their background that influenced their sexuality. This is totally unsubstantiated and based solely from conversations that I've had with the few that I've known over the years. Both of the guys that my wife attended stenograph school with said they were molested by a male family member when they were young. My grandkids' other grandmother was abused by her dad when she was a kid and after being in an abusive marriage for many years, she met a lesbian co-worker and ended up in a relationship with her to escape from her marriage. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

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BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	Two lesbians I know who aren't over the top and in your face and have more to their identity than their sexuality both voted for Bush. Snicker snicker... __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

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Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	Sorry guys but this one is for hound: Is jy dan n Boere-Jood? Lol

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BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	On a more serious note, here's a good resource for info debunking the claims that homosexuality is natural and irreversible. http://www.drthrockmorton.com/ And previews of a video on the subject: http://www.drthrockmorton.com/article.asp?id=138 One of the most prominent organizations leading people out of homosexuality: http://www.exodus.to/ __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf Last edited by BattleRifleG3; 10-28-2005 at 02:10 AM.

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