10 reasons why gay marriage should be illegal

[hounddawg]

Originally Posted by Ctwo

But some of the responses were serious enough, such as the idea that if you’re against abortion, then don't have one. Well, here I attack the premise of the argument, which makes no sense to me. If the argument is to justify your not imposing your beliefs on others, then apply it consistently. Such as, if you're against child molestation, then don't molest children, but don't force your belief on others. Perhaps abortion and child molestation are not directly related, but I can attack the premise of the argument and still be within context. No?

Then all those Bunny-hugging vegetarian PETA supporters are completely in the right when they try to convince me to to give up hunting and meat-eating?

Sometimes, I think, when comparing certain unrelated issues, it is entirely possible to turn a clearly comprehensible argument into pure bullca-ca.

My contention is that the argument at hand concerns poofters and wether or not they have the right to get married. We need to deal with that in this thread and with the rest we can argue in another thread if there are enough interested parties.

Personally, I don't care if moffies can or can't get married. What interests me is how you all feel that your lives would be changed to the detriment if this was to become so. Takers?

[troy2000]

a lot of them are of the 'will not,' 'will too...' ilk. But this one floors me:

"youths growing up, who are typically confused about their sexuality at that particular age when they are developing pubicly, may find it easier to make the wrong choices."

If you honestly believe that youths are 'typically confused about their sexuality,' and will make the wrong choice unless they're guided, you have issues.

[hounddawg]

Originally Posted by Ctwo

I would have a harder time eating lunch.

If we allow gays to get married, it would be a nod of recognition that being gay is OK. This would facilitate a greater sense of self confidence amongst those gays who are now closet gays, and they would start comming out of the closed in greater numbers. As gay conduct became more prevalent, as there would be more of a legal basis for forced public acceptance, youths growing up, who are typically confused about their sexuality at that particular age when they are developing pubicly, may find it easier to make the wrong choices. Therefore, I would have a higher likelyhood of seeing gays in public feeding sites where I typically eat my lunch, which would nausiate me. This in turn would likely nausiate others around me, including the gays, and our favorite feeding site may start to loose business due to nausiated patrons fleeing the nausiant.

Which inturn would be of benefit to your health seeing as the spare tyre will diminish and dissappear, your blood pressure and cholesterol levels will stabalise, and you fill find that the money that you save from eating out can now be spent on larger gun and ammo purchases!

Originally Posted by Ctwo

I am also worried about the "in your face" PCness. Pretty soon the sight of standard bride and groom pairs will be outlawed or even the sight of heterosexuals holding hands, much like how Christmass is today. At least there will be a move to force equal play. It's already getting hard enough to stomach broadcast television. I mean the sight of a 200 pound man in fishnet stockings the other night on the new Freddie sitcom was unnerving. Where will this immorality end? The last thing I want to be forced to teach my children is the nursery rhyme, "Jack and Bill went up the hill to..."

The glass is not half-empty - it is half full! You can sell your TV, save on channel and Direct TV and buy more ammo!

What's wrong with that nursery rhyme anyway? I grew up on it!

"Jack and Bill went up the hill
to lay an ambush by the water
Jack toted a .50 cal, and Billy had a mortar."

Originally Posted by Ctwo

I can agree to dismiss many of the arguments against gay marriages, such as marriage is for procreation, which cannot happen between gay couples. It can't happen when couples reach a certain age either or become sterile, and there is no reason (or argument) to dissolve those marriages when that happens.

Perhaps I am arguing more than I need to and should confine the subject to gay marriages, and not gay conduct.

Lets say that gay conduct remains behind closed doors after we approve of gay marriages. I think my health insurance premiums would increase because those insurance companies would now find a greater spectrum of liability and risk, particularily since gays typically engage in more risky behaviors. They may also decide to reduce coverages of specific ailments more commonly associated amongst the gay community, such as anal and rectal treatments (I'm just guessing that to be true as it seems likely to me, for shemales anyway?).

Actually that is untrue. The new superfit outdoors you will get a reduction in premiums because short of being hit by lightning you will be immortal! The insurance assesors will realise this and reduce your premiums so drastically for fear that you may cancel your policy!

[Johan Malan]

Well Moffies can do as they like and If they wanna get married sure but not in a church, not in MY CHURCH!! Marrige is something sacred given to us by God and it is a holly sacrement between a MAN and a WOMAN, not mano to mano.

[toolman]

My position is this, women bleed, breed, and feed. Men breed, feed , and supply needs. If you can show me two women or two men who are fit to raise a real family then look in the mirror and I'll show you someone in denial. It is a simple fact that kids need a mother and father, not two parents who wear the same underwear! Yes there are exceptions (Iwas raised by a single mom- my folks divorced when I was 4), but there are also a lot of screwed-up kids as a result of these selfish-a**ed so-called "parents". Rosie O'Donnel is a classic example of this, she advocates prison sentences for parents who own guns while employing an armed guard for her and "her" child. What does that teach this kid who had no choice in the matter? We also have TV shows that basically say, if you are a straight male, you are a stupid, no class !!!!!! that can't dress youself properly. I challenge any of the gay supporters to launch a show with straight guys telling gay guys how stupid they are for wearing wingtip shoes and polka-dots. They'd be sued in a heartbeat! In a nutshell, I believe with every fiber of my being that homsexuality is wrong and that those who think otherwise should examine their own backgrounds for possible abuse or exposure.

[hounddawg]

Sure, Tool it's wrong allright. I mean how can pounding putty possibly be right? I feel though, that becoming all stressed out about it is not going to help at all.

I believe that most poofs just love it when you do, and will act even more outrageous when they find out they have a "live one".

If you have to respond - LAUGH ! Not the "there's a habanero in my eye" type of laugh, the type thay says "Thank you for sacrificing yourself, your name, your honour, and your ancestory, just to bring me the laugh that I so badly needed"

Any other response is like chasing away a Jehova's Witness. They LOVE it, because they think that they are persecuted for their faith.

Instead of becoming offended, act as if the mof had just brightened up your day. It is garuanteed to ruin his day. Little wingtips (!!! are "wingtips"?) and dots an' all!

[toolman]

My 10 REAL reasons gay marriage should be illegal

1.The Bible says so!
2. Nature says so!
3.The International Brotherhood of Gerbils says so!
4. The rest of us hate it!
5. your mother hates it!
6. Your grandmother thinks it's siick!
7.Your father would kill your !!!
8. your friends will hate you
9. you will be almost universally despised
10. Your mom and dad willl know you are a rea l freak.

.

[hounddawg]

Does that mean you don't really like it?

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Originally Posted by hounddawg

Me too. Seems I recall a similar thread a few months back that got closed because we hurled the epithet "FAGBOY" at one another once times too many

"They" do seem to close good threads for odd reasons. But, I guess, with the over reactions of some, "They", rather than allow nature to take her course, seem to feel, in the big picture, it is best to close threads just as they become interesting. :joker:

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Originally Posted by Ctwo

I would have a harder time eating lunch.

If we allow gays to get married, it would be a nod of recognition that being gay is OK. This would facilitate a greater sense of self confidence amongst those gays who are now closet gays, and they would start comming out of the closed in greater numbers. As gay conduct became more prevalent, as there would be more of a legal basis for forced public acceptance, youths growing up, who are typically confused about their sexuality at that particular age when they are developing pubicly, may find it easier to make the wrong choices. Therefore, I would have a higher likelyhood of seeing gays in public feeding sites where I typically eat my lunch, which would nausiate me. This in turn would likely nausiate others around me, including the gays, and our favorite feeding site may start to loose business due to nausiated patrons fleeing the nausiant.

I am also worried about the "in your face" PCness. Pretty soon the sight of standard bride and groom pairs will be outlawed or even the sight of heterosexuals holding hands, much like how Christmass is today. At least there will be a move to force equal play. It's already getting hard enough to stomach broadcast television. I mean the sight of a 200 pound man in fishnet stockings the other night on the new Freddie sitcom was unnerving. Where will this immorality end? The last thing I want to be forced to teach my children is the nursery rhyme, "Jack and Bill went up the hill to..."

I can agree to dismiss many of the arguments against gay marriages, such as marriage is for procreation, which cannot happen between gay couples. It can't happen when couples reach a certain age either or become sterile, and there is no reason (or argument) to dissolve those marriages when that happens.

Perhaps I am arguing more than I need to and should confine the subject to gay marriages, and not gay conduct.

Lets say that gay conduct remains behind closed doors after we approve of gay marriages. I think my health insurance premiums would increase because those insurance companies would now find a greater spectrum of liability and risk, particularily since gays typically engage in more risky behaviors. They may also decide to reduce coverages of specific ailments more commonly associated amongst the gay community, such as anal and rectal treatments (I'm just guessing that to be true as it seems likely to me, for shemales anyway?).

I am old enough to remember when you were cool, and respected, if you were religious or a patriot. Now, if you are either, or, God forbid, you are both of those things, you are on the government's list of "persons of interest!" Society thinks you are a right-wing whack-O and you are hated/feared and dispised by all democrates. As you suggest, the more "we" tolerate from these filthy people, the more that wil become the norm or, what we call "accepted". So, in summery, i must agree with the premise of your post. :joker:

[Rave]

Amen,bro! :cheer: :right:

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Johan Malan

Well Moffies can do as they like and If they wanna get married sure but not in a church, not in MY CHURCH!! Marrige is something sacred given to us by God and it is a holly sacrement between a MAN and a WOMAN, not mano to mano.

No one has the right to stuff his beliefs into your church, any more than you have the right to lay your beliefs on anyone who doesn't go to your church. If God disapproves of what they're doing, I'm sure he'll have a word with them eventually.

I still think the intelligent thing to do is separate civil marriages and religious marriages. Call the certificate you get from the state a "Certificate of Civil Union," because it's essentially a civil contract. Then anyone who believes in being married in the eyes of God can have a church ceremony.

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Ctwo

gotta love that hounddawg perspective. I was pondering that jack and bill rhyme and just couldn't come with anything.

Troy, if I have issues, you have denial. Morality and knowledge between right and wrong are learned. Sigmund Freud proved that long ago.

Hopefully, people control and shape their urges with their morality and ethics, but they aren't the same thing.

I was five years old when my mother put me in the same bathtub with my little sister, and my one-inch pecker got hard. Are you telling me that was because I made a moral choice? Nonsense; I didn't even know why it was happening, and I had certainly never had that reaction to bathing with my brothers...

[toolman]

Originally Posted by hounddawg

Does that mean you don't really like it?

Now what gave you that idea, 'Dawg? We actually had a Hershey Hound move into our apartment complex awhile back. I was working on my car one day and he comes over and starts asking me questions about the "wild" side of trucking. I didn't know he was gay at the time and just thought he was asking about women. Then he tells me we should go to the Wild Stallion some night and he'd show me some really wild stuff-I then found out it's a gay bar. This was the second time I'd ever met him! Word eventually got back to him that I was extremely straight, mad as he ll, and love guns. I haven't heard a word from him in over two months.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Originally Posted by troy2000

Hopefully, people control and shape their urges with their morality and ethics, but they aren't the same thing.

I was five years old when my mother put me in the same bathtub with my little sister, and my one-inch pecker got hard. Are you telling me that was because I made a moral choice? Nonsense; I didn't even know why it was happening, and I had certainly never had that reaction to bathing with my brothers...

:joker: It's considered "sick" and "perverted" to lust after your sister. You need help. Not only has the sickness of the dems gotten hold of you, now, you suggest other deviant behaviours. Please, most of us don't swing that way. Check with NAMBLA (ask Joe, i think he can help... :joker: ).....maybe they can steer you to the right support group! Funny story though...in a sick sort of way. :flame:

[Rave]

I don't know why this thread ever started nor why it continues. The whole thing can be summed up in one word,ABOMINATION!
Those who think otherwise are part of the problem this country faces!imo :insane:

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Rufus Rhastus J

:joker: It's considered "sick" and "perverted" to lust after your sister. You need help. Not only has the sickness of the dems gotten hold of you, now, you suggest other deviant behaviours. Please, most of us don't swing that way. Check with NAMBLA (ask Joe, i think he can help... :joker: ).....maybe they can steer you to the right support group! Funny story though...in a sick sort of way. :flame:

With your help and that of my other true friends here, maybe I can get back on the right path.

[Rockabilly88]

I'm just curious how many of you say that homosexuality is alright as long as they don't bother you, call yourselves christians. I think the bible instructs us to stone fags not make excuses for them.

[hounddawg]

Originally Posted by Rockabilly88

I'm just curious how many of you say that homosexuality is alright as long as they don't bother you, call yourselves christians. I think the bible instructs us to stone fags not make excuses for them.

Rock, I don't give a crap about what gays do or do not do. In fact, I don't care what Christians do or do not do either, as long as neither of them come to mess with my serenity. THAT's why I have guns.

As much as I know about Christianity, there was some talk about loving your neighbours. Didn't say "only your un-queer neighbour", so if you want to be Christian about it, you have to go find a few neighbours to love. Perhaps not with the intensity that they want to be loved, but loved all the same. Then claim Christianity.

[troy2000]

What he said...