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Old 10-25-2005, 01:30 PM   #1
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10 reasons why gay marriage should be illegal

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10 reasons why gay marriage should be illegal

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10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage is Wrong


01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.


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Old 10-25-2005, 02:49 PM   #2
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So I take it you believe Gay marriage is OK????
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Dunno about him, but I could give a (bleep) whether two guys get married. Or two gals, unless they invite me on their honeymoon...
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:01 PM   #4
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Personaly, I'm against gay marraiges....but;

They are people just like any other citizen of this country and as such should be aforded the same rights as 'straights' including marraige.

I am anti-abortion. So I will never have one (besides, I'm male) but that gives me no right to tell someone else that they can't have an abortion. Its their choice (and they gotta live with the results of that choice), not mine.

Just like people have a right to be anti-gun, but they don't have the right to take my right to own guns away.

You're against;
Gay marraige...don't have one.
Abortion...don't have one.
Anti-gun...don't have one.

But don't start thinking that you have the right to force your beliefs on others.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:47 PM   #5
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There's a lot of stuff I'm either against or just not "for"...

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Personaly, I'm against gay marraiges....but;

They are people just like any other citizen of this country and as such should be aforded the same rights as 'straights' including marraige.

I am anti-abortion. So I will never have one (besides, I'm male) but that gives me no right to tell someone else that they can't have an abortion. Its their choice (and they gotta live with the results of that choice), not mine.

Just like people have a right to be anti-gun, but they don't have the right to take my right to own guns away.

You're against;
Gay marraige...don't have one.
Abortion...don't have one.
Anti-gun...don't have one.



But don't start thinking that you have the right to force your beliefs on others.


Marriage of gays is one I honestly don't care about. It isn't going to affect my marriage at all, and it isn't going to affect my kids (unless they seriously surprise me, and in that case I'd rather have 'em settled down in a monogamous relationship, instead of hanging out in bath houses getting AIDS). Homosexuality is not contagious, so I'm not worried about it 'spreading.'

Abortion and drug abuse are two things I think the law simply does a lousy job of handling. There are better ways to tackle them than outlawing them.

A guy I worked with turned to me one day out of a clear blue sky, and asked, "So, Troy. Are you in favor of abortion?" I answered, "Well, I don't know anybody who 'favors' abortion. I don't think it should be against the law, if that's what you mean..."

He gave me this smug, 'gotcha' look, and said, "So I guess you're not gonna care in a few years when they come to your door to take your 13-year-old daughter across state lines to get an abortion without your consent, are you?"

He walked off savoring his victory, before I could point out that the best way to prevent abortions in young girls is to not let them get pregnant.

For the record: my wife and I had a dozen teen foster daughters over the years, some of them from junior high on thru graduation. No babies, no abortions, no pregnancies period. We didn't lock them up and we didn't hand out birth control; we just treated them like family.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:02 PM   #7
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Talking just out of curiousity

will they be getting married in church ? kind of ironic...don't you think ? maybe they'll learn their lesson after a bad divorce or two
 
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Allowing gay marriage trivializes the sanctity of a true marriage between a Man and a Woman. It is immoral and I will not tolerate it.
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It doesn't trivialize my marriage...

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Allowing gay marriage trivializes the sanctity of a true marriage between a Man and a Woman. It is immoral and I will not tolerate it.
Mine stands on its own. I don't need to bulldoze other people to keep it sacrosanct.

If you want to uphold the sanctity of marriage, go talk to people like Newt Gingrich, who's been married multiple times, and cheated on each prior wife with the woman who would become his next one.

Or maybe you should talk to Rush Limbaugh. How many more times can he get married and still blather on about the fundamental immorality of liberals and democrats?

How about Henry Hyde, who took a woman from her husband and children when he was 41, and installed her in an apartment as his mistress for eight years? And who, when the hypocrisy of his public posturing against Clinton was pointed out, dismissed his actions as a "youthful indiscretion."

No one can destroy the sanctity of a "true marriage" except the people involved in that marriage, any more than I can destroy your faith by not going to church myself.

And by the way: I listed conservatives here because they're mainly the hypocites trying to milk the subject, not because they're the only scum with no personal values. There are plenty of liberals we could talk about, too..
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Ctwo,
your answer is a series of non-sequitars, unless you're trying to say that gay marriage causes rape, child molestation, murder, drugs and racism.

I myself have no problem with drawing a line between civil marriages and religious marriages, and I don't think anyone should be able to force a church to recognize gay marriage, although they have the right to try talking them into it.

Maybe what we need is to start calling ALL civil marriages civil unions instead. And if people and churches want to go the extra step of also designating their unions as marriages, more power to them. That would separate the legal and religious aspects.
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Some arguments don't work for me.

Immorality lead marriage to what it is, today. Use to be that marriage gave a man and woman the right to have sex and children. It was a bad thing if it was done outside of marriage. When that was thrown aside by society, marriage lost its purpose. The right for two of the same sex to marry did not exist and had no reason to exist. If the government had not given special rights to married people, the "gay marriages" probably would not have been legalized. Marriage for many has become a legal right, not a moral right. The government should have stayed out of marriages, altogether.

If the Second Amendment is struck down and owning guns becomes illegal, who is going to give up their firearms? The government has already taken that right away for many convicted felons. An inalienable right!
People do not have the right to be anti-gun. They have the privilege to be anti-gun.

If the government determines you are not fit to be a parent, should they be able to force you to have an abortion? What right is being violated here? Who determines it?
Is it OK for someone to take a 14 year old child to have an abortion without the custodial parents knowledge or consent? What if that child starts hemorraging in the night and is too scared or ashamed to tell the parent? Who is responsible then?

The courts force their beliefs on others all the time.
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Old 10-26-2005, 01:03 PM   #13
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Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses
I'm a Real American who wears glasses..and every once in awhile I run my air conditioning in my car..I use it in my house during the summer too
 
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I don't give a fat rats arss - just as long as they do not try to change the constitution one way or the other. Constitutions are for spelling out what a goverment can and cannot do, it is not intended to tell THE PEOPLE what to do or not do.
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Ctwo, sorry for not reading your post more carefully...

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Troy, my answer relates is as follows:

01) Molesting a child is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

The sarcasm can be applied to anything and proves nothing.
I was writing faster than I was reading, apparently. Looks like we're pretty much on the same page, in believing that perhaps a state-sanctioned marriage, which is essentially a civil contract, should not be equated with a religious marriage.

As for the sarcasm, the difference is that his was funny, and perhaps should be termed irony instead, since it was intended to bring attention to a serious subject in a tongue-in-cheek manner.
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personally i dont care about gay marriage, i'm not a fan, i just dont care. abortion has it's place, a mother who may not for some reason be physically up to child birth, who may die while in labor is one example. another is a woman who is pregnant due to rape is another. i am sure that there are a lot more serious problems out there that could be addressed to make a better society.
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Stopper, I think you may have just said something profound

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I don't give a fat rats arss - just as long as they do not try to change the constitution one way or the other. Constitutions are for spelling out what a goverment can and cannot do, it is not intended to tell THE PEOPLE what to do or not do.

I've never seen it put quite that way before, but you're right. The Constitution was written to delineate, and therefore limit, the powers of government. People who want to clutter it up with 'thou shalt nots' are missing the point.
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Stopper,I hereby declaire you to be the man of the hour,that was indeed profound! :ballons: :nod:
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Well, I guess if I have to explain it, it isn't all that funny.

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So what makes his "irony" any funnier than mine? Both subjects are serious and, to me anyway, are just about as morally disgusting.
But the fact remains: I chuckled when I read his list, and didn't when I read yours.
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:20 PM   #20
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God Made Adam & Eve, not Adam & Steve.
I used to be in the United church of Canada and left about 3 months ago because they allow gay marriges.
So now I'm church shopping
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