Old 11-19-2005, 12:47 AM   #1
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Question Terni long rifle...

Wife bought me a Italian Terni long rifle today from an antique shop for early Christmas present. She let me look it over real quick...nice bore...nice wood...numbers match...finish about 90%...has a weird rear sight. You push a little button and the sight flips completely over out of the way into a groove in the upper hand guard.

Wood dam near perfect!

She won't let me have it until Christmas though! Won't even let me look at it anymore!

Has a small bore diameter...doesn't look much bigger than a .22...with this sparse info anyone know what I got? Caliber? Where to get ammo (guy said it takes ammo that is on clips...said the clips fall out the bottom when its done firing?)

Any websites for info?

Wife also bought me a Enfield No.4 MKI at the same time from the same shop. Won't let me look at that anymore either...more to come on that in the correct forum!

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Old 11-19-2005, 01:52 AM   #2
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man I have no clue, sounds interesting though, Id like to know what that is also
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:54 AM   #3
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Well, wife is at work...got it in front of me...



It has an octagon chamber in front of thr round receiver...

On what I can see one side of the chamber says "FP"...

Just before the top it has an "18"...

The top says "Terni"...

Then just pst the top towards the other side is the serial #C19086...

Then the side has proof marks...



The wood is awesome...very few nicks...no dings...

Left side of buttstock has a 6 sided stamp with "FABBa D' ARMI" in it along with another "18" like on the octagon chamber...

The serial number on the stock matches the serial # on the receiver...



I see no serial# on bolt....just what looks like a "PC" on bolt handle along with what looks like either a "7" or an "L"...the extractor looks weird, like its pinched down on one side....must be because of the ammo type ? It doesn't look damaged....

Towards the safety on the bolt it has "SO" or "OS" on it....



Its dirty from hanging on the wall of the shop but its at least 90% original finish...cleaning rod is present...bore is very sharp with no frosting or pits....
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Old 11-19-2005, 12:35 PM   #4
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well Joe shame on you for peeking at your gift and actually touching it

We'll need pictures after Christmas!
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Old 11-19-2005, 04:03 PM   #5
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sounds like you got a itatian model 1891 carano rifle. aka parravicino-carcanro, mannlicher-carcanro, or terni rifle. terni is the city in italy where these rifle were made. mannlicher its type of magazine and cartridge clip. 6 rounds, 6.5 mm cartridge, the bullet diameter is .268
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Old 11-20-2005, 01:52 PM   #6
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http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl21-e.htm

The rifle's main claim to fame in modern times is that Lee Harvey Oswald used one to assassinate Kennedy.

Interesting that the Italians adopted such a small-bore weapon all the way back in 1891. They replaced it with the American M1 after WWII, according to the website above.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:15 PM   #7
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Not sure on the clips, but Graf and Sons has the ammo (Hornady 6.5x52 CARCANO .268d 160gr RNSP). http://www.grafs.com/index.php
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:08 AM   #8
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Dewman wrote of one of his experiences trying to destroy one of these way back in the day. Wonder if it's archived somewhere.
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:47 PM   #9
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Something that I doubt is taken into account, when the conspiracy buffs claim Oswald couldn't have fired his three shots that quickly, is that these rifles have an extremely fast action. Probably the only one with a bolt that can be worked faster is the Enfield.
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Old 11-24-2005, 01:52 AM   #10
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I think I've beat Enfields with my Mosin.
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Whoever had the Enfields needed practice...they're more easily worked from the shoulder than the usual bolt action, making for less time between shots. The British stunned the Germans with their "rapid-fire" capability at the beginning of WWI, or so I've read--I wasn't there.
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Old 11-24-2005, 12:05 PM   #12
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I've been buying goodies for both my Carcano and Enfield...clips...stripper clips...slings...etc.
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Old 12-24-2005, 08:43 AM   #13
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Get to open her and KEEP her tonight!
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Old 12-24-2005, 08:57 AM   #14
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Wish I could get my wife to buy me a gun.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:33 PM   #15
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Terni long rifle

I found a Terni long rifle in my grandmas closet. It says TERNI and 1890 where the barrel meets the stock. The serial number kv1362 is on the side of the stock near the butt and on the barrel. My buddy and I took a measurement at the end of the barrel and got a .40 or .42 caliber but I don't know how accurate that might be. It's a bolt action rifle and thats about all the info I've got so does anyone know anything about it?
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Old 07-25-2006, 04:33 PM   #16
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http://personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/

http://www.surplusrifle.com/carcano9138/index.asp
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Old 07-28-2006, 09:04 AM   #17
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joe i live near your location where is this shop located?
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One of my customers brought a Terni rifle for repair. It has 1928 on the right side of the breach between the rear sight and reciever, on the top is Terni and on the left side it has T4945. There is PG and an uninteligable mark on the left side also. On the right side,between the 1928 and the stock, either IH or TH is stamped in the metal. it has a short (3/4) stock with a folding baonet that folds down under the barell.
My problem is that it needs a new fireing pin and I don't know where to start looking for one. If there are any gunsmiths out there please help with any info. Also, I need to find out if this rifle is chambered for 6.5x52 Carcano.Thanks for any help you can give.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:43 PM   #19
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Sold mine awhile ago...made $150 on it...
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:48 PM   #20
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You sold a christmas preset from your wife???? shame on you joe. lol at least you made money
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