It's coming...

practical · 12-13-2005, 06:46 AM

WW3 is on its way rather we like it or not. The great battle between good and evil is going to resume as I see it between Islam and the western world. It will involve occupation and ultimately be over middle eastern oil supplies and the stabilazition of them. Its starting. First terror attacks, then an invasion, riots in France, and now rioting going the other way in Australia.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/..._racial_unrest

I hate to sound so negative and gloomy on the matter, but its been a long time since the world has really gone into all out fisticuffs with itself, and I don't think the Islamic problem is going to go away until it gets MUCH worse. I expect we'll see more rioting of this variety in other western countries and eventually on our own shores. Maybe having your shtf plan together ain't such a bad idea after all.

12-13-2005, 07:06 AM

I had some Jehovah's Witnesses come by the house Sunday..they said this is the "End Times"

practical · 12-13-2005, 07:33 AM

I don't know about the end times, but I do thinks its going to be ugly and long and force us all to do some things we rather think think we wouldn't.

Johan Malan · 12-13-2005, 12:37 PM

We have had a nostrudamus of sorts our selfs "Siener Van Rensburg" and he predicted it around 1913 all ready, He said that our trouble will not be with the Kaffers or British but with the coolies in the middle-east.
And that the whole world would be affected by this war.

The only thing that worries me is that history allways repeats itself and remember what happned to the crusades

BattleRifleG3 · 12-13-2005, 12:56 PM

I have long believed that an Arab World War is not a matter of if but of when. I think we've been running and hiding from it for decades and instead of being more prepared ourselves, have allowed them to prepare. The 1991 Iraq War was fought on eggshells in order to prevent an Arab World War. We should have instead, with the Cold War over and military strength yet unclintonized, let it escalate into something we could conclude instead of being so afraid of the Muslim world that we left Saddam in power just to counter them (He was a Muslim only by name, by practice he was an occultist.)

Johan Malan · 12-13-2005, 01:20 PM

The other thing that worries me about war with the arabs is that the Europeans arn't backing the US, Canada backs the US in Afganistan but most Canadians feel that the Iraqi war is un-just how are you gonna change that?
The US have only about 6% of the worlds population, and there is no way in !!!! you can win without backing from europe, the rest of North america and hopefully some of Asia, and Australia.
Africa would for the most part gather themselfes with the Arabs to fight the "Colonials" they keep ranting about.

Dale · 12-13-2005, 01:21 PM

I don't believe the 'great battle' will be one of military rather one of an ethical and moral battle of some sort.

I think, perhaps, a battle of "Do I do wrong and live without pain, discomfort, etc. or do I do right and suffer?" type of battle.

BattleRifleG3 · 12-13-2005, 01:42 PM

I think Africa would be split between Christians and Muslims. I highly doubt Christian Africans would rally to the aid of Muslim Arabs. Muslim Africans perhaps.

NRAJOE · 12-13-2005, 02:28 PM

Anybody wanna visit a giant land of glass when its over? :full:

Outriderdark · 12-13-2005, 05:00 PM

I really don't have a problem with fighting for oil. Oil IS a good reason to fight. We need it strategically and economically as much as any other resource. Staple resources really are a good reason to enter conflict. We'd fight for other resources.
My problem is with the way things seem to be done these days, partially out of a fear of someone using nukes (which would be a real possibility in the event of a major escalation anywhere).

ash · 12-13-2005, 05:47 PM

BRING IT ON!

Outriderdark · 12-13-2005, 11:05 PM

I wish Hiroshima/Nagasaki never happened. War just isn't the same anymore.

ash · 12-13-2005, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outriderdark

I wish Hiroshima/Nagasaki never happened. War just isn't the same anymore.

I wish it would happen more often.

Outriderdark · 12-13-2005, 11:11 PM

I prefer to think we can kick some a** without rendering the earth uninhabitable.
If politicians would quit trying to run wars from leather bound chairs while sipping cognac in Washington, that is.

Johan Malan · 12-13-2005, 11:55 PM

Battle rifle I got some disturbing news for you: Only the white South Afriacan population will stand behind the US. the Goverment....Never Mandela condemmed the Us so many times before The Rest of Africa is all Commies or dictators and hate your white but boy, , you are a colonist I was a "colonial" trust me

Johan Malan · 12-14-2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

I really don't have a problem with fighting for oil. Oil IS a good reason to fight. We need it strategically and economically as much as any other resource. Staple resources really are a good reason to enter conflict. We'd fight for other resources.
My problem is with the way things seem to be done these days, partially out of a fear of someone using nukes (which would be a real possibility in the event of a major escalation anywhere

I agree 100% on the oil part, I personally can't give a chit is there was WMD in Iraq or not we need the oil so Foxtrot, Uniform, Charlie, Kilo them!
But unfortunately the rest of the world don't see it that way.

BattleRifleG3 · 12-14-2005, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johan Malan

Battle rifle I got some disturbing news for you: Only the white South Afriacan population will stand behind the US. the Goverment....Never Mandela condemmed the Us so many times before The Rest of Africa is all Commies or dictators and hate your white but boy, , you are a colonist I was a "colonial" trust me

I'm not saying they'd stand behind us, but that I doubt that Christian Africans would back the Arabs in a middle eastern war. That's all I was really saying.

NorCalAshnjikov · 12-14-2005, 05:04 AM

No it ain't.

Johan Malan · 12-14-2005, 11:08 AM

Battle verry view Africans overthere are chiristian, They still pray to there ancesteral spirits, and in many cases they are atheists.

Rave · 12-14-2005, 11:43 AM

Folks just never seem to learn,down right stupid!

:insane: :nod:

12-13-2005, 06:46 AM	#1
practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	It's coming... WW3 is on its way rather we like it or not. The great battle between good and evil is going to resume as I see it between Islam and the western world. It will involve occupation and ultimately be over middle eastern oil supplies and the stabilazition of them. Its starting. First terror attacks, then an invasion, riots in France, and now rioting going the other way in Australia. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/..._racial_unrest I hate to sound so negative and gloomy on the matter, but its been a long time since the world has really gone into all out fisticuffs with itself, and I don't think the Islamic problem is going to go away until it gets MUCH worse. I expect we'll see more rioting of this variety in other western countries and eventually on our own shores. Maybe having your shtf plan together ain't such a bad idea after all. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

12-13-2005, 07:33 AM	#3
practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	I don't know about the end times, but I do thinks its going to be ugly and long and force us all to do some things we rather think think we wouldn't. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

12-13-2005, 12:56 PM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	I have long believed that an Arab World War is not a matter of if but of when. I think we've been running and hiding from it for decades and instead of being more prepared ourselves, have allowed them to prepare. The 1991 Iraq War was fought on eggshells in order to prevent an Arab World War. We should have instead, with the Cold War over and military strength yet unclintonized, let it escalate into something we could conclude instead of being so afraid of the Muslim world that we left Saddam in power just to counter them (He was a Muslim only by name, by practice he was an occultist.) __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-13-2005, 01:21 PM	#7
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	I don't believe the 'great battle' will be one of military rather one of an ethical and moral battle of some sort. I think, perhaps, a battle of "Do I do wrong and live without pain, discomfort, etc. or do I do right and suffer?" type of battle. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

12-13-2005, 01:42 PM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	I think Africa would be split between Christians and Muslims. I highly doubt Christian Africans would rally to the aid of Muslim Arabs. Muslim Africans perhaps. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-13-2005, 07:06 AM	#2
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I had some Jehovah's Witnesses come by the house Sunday..they said this is the "End Times"

12-13-2005, 12:37 PM	#4
Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	We have had a nostrudamus of sorts our selfs "Siener Van Rensburg" and he predicted it around 1913 all ready, He said that our trouble will not be with the Kaffers or British but with the coolies in the middle-east. And that the whole world would be affected by this war. The only thing that worries me is that history allways repeats itself and remember what happned to the crusades

12-13-2005, 01:20 PM	#6
Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	The other thing that worries me about war with the arabs is that the Europeans arn't backing the US, Canada backs the US in Afganistan but most Canadians feel that the Iraqi war is un-just how are you gonna change that? The US have only about 6% of the worlds population, and there is no way in !!!! you can win without backing from europe, the rest of North america and hopefully some of Asia, and Australia. Africa would for the most part gather themselfes with the Arabs to fight the "Colonials" they keep ranting about.

12-13-2005, 02:28 PM	#9
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,252 Images: 3	Anybody wanna visit a giant land of glass when its over? :full:

12-13-2005, 05:00 PM	#10
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	I really don't have a problem with fighting for oil. Oil IS a good reason to fight. We need it strategically and economically as much as any other resource. Staple resources really are a good reason to enter conflict. We'd fight for other resources. My problem is with the way things seem to be done these days, partially out of a fear of someone using nukes (which would be a real possibility in the event of a major escalation anywhere). __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

12-13-2005, 05:47 PM	#11
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: En route Posts: 934 Images: 3	BRING IT ON!

12-13-2005, 11:05 PM	#12
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	I wish Hiroshima/Nagasaki never happened. War just isn't the same anymore. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

12-13-2005, 11:11 PM	#14
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	I prefer to think we can kick some a** without rendering the earth uninhabitable. If politicians would quit trying to run wars from leather bound chairs while sipping cognac in Washington, that is. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

12-13-2005, 11:55 PM	#15
Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	Battle rifle I got some disturbing news for you: Only the white South Afriacan population will stand behind the US. the Goverment....Never Mandela condemmed the Us so many times before The Rest of Africa is all Commies or dictators and hate your white but boy, , you are a colonist I was a "colonial" trust me

12-14-2005, 05:04 AM	#18
NorCalAshnjikov Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 688 Images: 1	No it ain't.

12-14-2005, 11:08 AM	#19
Johan Malan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 302	Battle verry view Africans overthere are chiristian, They still pray to there ancesteral spirits, and in many cases they are atheists.

12-14-2005, 11:43 AM	#20
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,049	Folks just never seem to learn,down right stupid! :insane: :nod: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .