Old 12-24-2005, 07:51 PM   #1
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The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi


"The Star of Bethlehem: The Legacy of the Magi has stunning new insight and approach, which finally gives a confident answer to a question that has fascinated all Christians through the ages. ... don't buy any other book on the Star of Bethlehem, because the old astronomical views are guaranteed to be irrelevant." — Prof. Bradley E. Schaefer, Yale University
Could the purchase of an ancient coin have led to an important clue about the Star of Bethlehem? The above illustration is a Roman coin from Antioch, Syria which shows the zodiacal sign, Aries the Ram. In trying to understand the meaning behind this coin, I found that Aries was the sign of the Jews. Realizing that this is where ancient stargazers would have watched for the Star of Bethlehem, I embarked on searching for the celestial event that signified the birth of the Messiah in Judea.

Superposed on the photograph of the coin is what I found: Jupiter underwent two occultations ("eclipses") by the Moon in Aries in 6 BC. Jupiter was the regal "star" that conferred kingships - a power that was amplified when Jupiter was in close conjunctions with the Moon. The second occultation on April 17 coincided precisely when Jupiter was "in the east," a condition mentioned twice in the biblical account about the Star of Bethlehem. In August of that year Jupiter became stationary and then "went before" through Aries where it became stationary again on December 19, 6 BC. This is when the regal planet "stood over." - a secondary royal portent also described in the Bible. In particular, there is confirmation from a Roman astrologer that the conditions of April 17, 6 BC were believed to herald the birth of a divine, immortal, and omnipotent person born under the sign of the Jews, which we now know was Aries the Ram. Furthermore, the coins of Antioch and ancient astrological documents show that there was indeed a Star of Bethlehem as reported in the biblical account of Matthew.

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Old 12-26-2005, 01:30 AM   #2
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i have always been told that his b-day was in the first week or so of september...hmmmm interesting
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Old 12-26-2005, 09:01 AM   #3
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I have read a few studies that showed that the birth of Christ was actually in about the time it was celebrated. Personally, I don't really care. Christmas is over rated, anyway. Nobody would care about Christmas had there not been a resurrection on what some now call Easter.
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Old 12-26-2005, 11:24 AM   #4
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Christ was supposedly born at the time the lambs are usually born, in the spring. which would be around 17 April.
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Old 01-01-2006, 08:41 AM   #5
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Christmas and the Star of Bethlehem. - There is no historical evidence that Christ was born on December 25th. December 25th was officially adopted by Bishop Liberius of Rome in 354. December 25th occurs during the rainy season in the Holy Land, so it is highly unlikely that shepherds would be outside in their pastures. The Hayden Planetarium in New York recreated the heavens as they were in the time that Christ was allegedly born. Although nothing spectacular happened in the skies on the date of Christ's birth, the Planetarium went back to the year 6 B.C. On that date, there were three stars in close proximity which created a spectacularly bright beacon, which may account for the stories of the Star of Bethlehem. The most plausible reason that December 25 was chosen as a day to celebrate Christ's birth was that the Christian fathers were trying to compete with another growing religion, Mithraism - the worship of a sun god - whose holy day was also December 25.
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Old 01-01-2006, 03:23 PM   #6
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Bulletproof, to further your thread;
King Herod who persecuted Jesus as a baby died in 4bce. So that star calculation could be close.
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Old 01-01-2006, 10:02 PM   #7
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Good read. Thanks for the info.

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Good read. Thanks
I'm glad you liked it..I thought it was interesting enough to research
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