Wolf Control program Halted

Mooseman684 · 01-18-2006, 11:26 PM

Well, today in Alaska a Judge sided with "friends of animals" and halted the aerial winter hunts to thin out the Wolf population in areas that Moose and Caribou numbers have dwindled. Basically a tool that Alaska Dept of Fish and Game uses to do its job was ruled "against the rules" ! Local Pilots and Guides were contracting the jobs where they had to land and shoot,Harvest the Wolves, bring em to ADFG... they are now Grounded. "Friends of Animals" is an animal rights, anti-hunting, pro-Wolf Organization Not even based in Alaska, they are Sueing and tying up our courts and Our Biologist's hands. They could care less that 1000 wolves can kill 40,000 Caribou a year,25,000 moose calves ,1000's of Sheep,The Wolves get to hunt year round where I can only hunt a short season and take only 1 Animal.They should be called Friends of Predators , Because they sure don't care about the Edible ones!!!
Yes , I'm MAD as !!!! that outsiders are messing in my backyard !
Rich

BattleRifleG3 · 01-18-2006, 11:34 PM

Right on, Mooseman! I'd be enraged too. Wish those wolves were howling outside their headquarters and eating them when they left the office.

Shaun · 01-18-2006, 11:45 PM

guess I will have to get some of those freebie wolves while I am after the bear

Mooseman684 · 01-19-2006, 12:07 AM

They just won't let me go with belt fed hanging out the door of the Supercub anymore...the good old days are slipping away...I belong to PETA...People Eating Tasty Animals !

Shaun · 01-19-2006, 12:16 AM

so are you shooting in that slip

wirehunt · 01-19-2006, 12:27 AM

On the news here tonight.
The biggest terrorist threat in the US is the animal righter's. I forget the name of one of the two they said about, but it was the branch of PETA.

Ain't it time something was done about these terrorists?

Mooseman684 · 01-19-2006, 12:52 AM

I offered that woman that runs that outfit that I would Trap wolves alive and ship them to HER backyard ...all she Wanted...She Hung up on me !
And Shaun, I'm always shootin, even if its it just my Mouth Off until another
target shows up !LoL

:gangster:

WolfHuntress · 01-19-2006, 11:06 AM

As much as I love the idea of letting wolves run wild, for heaven's sake when their growing population has such a hurting impact on other wildlife then something should be done to control it. In any case, it should be delt with by those who actually know what is happening in their own backyard, not by those who want to drag the "case" before the courts. Hmmm...I never thought "crying wolf!" was a plea FROM the wolf...

BattleRifleG3 · 01-19-2006, 11:59 AM

That's a beautiful post, Wolfhuntress, from a beautiful lady...

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7mmag6 · 01-19-2006, 01:42 PM

good god get a room

wirehunt · 01-19-2006, 02:23 PM

Are you low on brownie points BG3?

Mooseman684 · 01-22-2006, 12:55 AM

Well, the story has gone National and the Media has done it again...They wrote up the story implying that wolves were being shot from the AIR while the Planes were flying and that is just NOT TRUE. Sure, the planes were flying to SPOT the Wolves from the air, but, they had to LAND and SHOOT and retrieve them. 400 wolves were targeted out of an estimated 7000 to 10,000 and only in areas where Game populations are in severe decline. Wolves are NOT endangered or threatened species here in Alaska, But the Media writes these News Stories so as to sway public opinion , and I think it is a lot of El Toro PooPoo ! When it comes to the News...Believe Half of what you see and None of what you Hear !

ADF&G is currently reviewing the problems that the Judge asserted and working toward getting the program in compliance so it can resume ASAP !
I'll keep the forum posted with updates as they Happen !

Mooseman684 · 02-02-2006, 10:15 PM

UPDATE.......UPDATE........UPDATE 02/02/06
Alaska's board of Game presented the Judge a revision in the policy made after a week of deliberation, and after review......
WOLF HUNTING / PREDATOR CONTROL is BACK ON TRACK !
To top that off, they also legalized the selling of BEAR HIDES/CLAWS/and
SKULLS from some of the Predator control areas to entice more Bear hunters into those areas...Something that has never been legal before ! They did this to increase Moose populations in 5 ares of the state where aerial Wolf hunting is allowed! Officials estimate there are 30 to 40 thousand Brown bears and over 100 thousand Black bears in the State.

( God, I LOVE this Place!)
Rich

7mmag6 · 02-02-2006, 11:04 PM

well I have mixed feeling, Im a huge dog lover. Wolfs are not dogs they are predators. we are also so , my feeling is its good to be on the top of the food chain---blast em

Mooseman684 · 02-02-2006, 11:27 PM

Hey 7mmag6, I have a pet Wolf, But, I control what she eats !!!

troy2000 · 02-02-2006, 11:58 PM

Back when I was a meter reader for my company, one of my more interesting days involved a wolf.

I let myself thru a gate one afternoon to go around the back of the house and read a meter on the other side, and came face to face with a female German Shepherd. I kept walking into her as she gave a little ground, and thought, "good-looking dog." Right behind her was a big young one, and I looked him over and thought, "good-looking wolf cross, too. Wonder where Papa Wolf is?" And as I rounded the corner, I said, "Oh. He's right here..."

I'm no psychologist, but I know dogs. And you don't slow down, speed up or reverse direction on a dog in a tense situation; you don't want to trigger anything. So I kept walking, and he stayed frozen. I mean, not a muscle twitched. If the wind hadn't stirred his fur a little, I'd have thought he was a statue. Then I noticed his eyes were moving with me. I walked past him at about five feet, and when I got far enough he turned his head just barely enough to keep tracking me with his eyes.

I went on around the second corner, read the meter and started back, and he hadn't moved. As I went by he barely shifted his head one more time to watch me walk past, and otherwise never moved a muscle.

I walked past the other two, told the Shepherd, "good-looking kid you got there, Mama," and let myself out the gate again. When I got back to my truck, I realized the t-shirt under my uniform was soaking wet. I stopped at a gas station and stripped out of it, so I could stop shivering in the winter air.

Mooseman684 · 02-03-2006, 12:24 AM

Troy...Be glad you weren't wearing Milk Bone Underwear !!! LOL

7mmag6 · 02-03-2006, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Hey 7mmag6, I have a pet Wolf, But, I control what she eats !!!

yep my wife also

Mooseman684 · 02-03-2006, 12:52 AM

No, I'm single..LOL... I have a real Wolf/ Akita (japanese wolf) Cross and she is very Unusual...She talks...she kisses...and she can smell caribou and Moose from inside the house 1/4 mile away ! 100lbs. and can crunch up a bone in short order. I have to Keep 2 collars on her to keep her from getting shot when we are out in the bush together. Very well behaved and devoted to me..I am her Alpha Male,I guess. She is not allowed to kill Moose, or Caribou, that's my job...The Cat(Bullet kitty) kicks her Butt all the time!LOL

01-18-2006, 11:26 PM	#1
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	Wolf Control program Halted Well, today in Alaska a Judge sided with "friends of animals" and halted the aerial winter hunts to thin out the Wolf population in areas that Moose and Caribou numbers have dwindled. Basically a tool that Alaska Dept of Fish and Game uses to do its job was ruled "against the rules" ! Local Pilots and Guides were contracting the jobs where they had to land and shoot,Harvest the Wolves, bring em to ADFG... they are now Grounded. "Friends of Animals" is an animal rights, anti-hunting, pro-Wolf Organization Not even based in Alaska, they are Sueing and tying up our courts and Our Biologist's hands. They could care less that 1000 wolves can kill 40,000 Caribou a year,25,000 moose calves ,1000's of Sheep,The Wolves get to hunt year round where I can only hunt a short season and take only 1 Animal.They should be called Friends of Predators , Because they sure don't care about the Edible ones!!! Yes , I'm MAD as !!!! that outsiders are messing in my backyard ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-18-2006, 11:34 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Right on, Mooseman! I'd be enraged too. Wish those wolves were howling outside their headquarters and eating them when they left the office. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-18-2006, 11:45 PM	#3
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	guess I will have to get some of those freebie wolves while I am after the bear __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-19-2006, 12:07 AM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	They just won't let me go with belt fed hanging out the door of the Supercub anymore...the good old days are slipping away...I belong to PETA...People Eating Tasty Animals ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-19-2006, 12:16 AM	#5
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	so are you shooting in that slip __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-19-2006, 12:27 AM	#6
wirehunt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otago New Zealand Posts: 656	On the news here tonight. The biggest terrorist threat in the US is the animal righter's. I forget the name of one of the two they said about, but it was the branch of PETA. Ain't it time something was done about these terrorists? __________________ Happy Hunting

01-19-2006, 12:52 AM	#7
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	I offered that woman that runs that outfit that I would Trap wolves alive and ship them to HER backyard ...all she Wanted...She Hung up on me ! And Shaun, I'm always shootin, even if its it just my Mouth Off until another target shows up !LoL :gangster: __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-19-2006, 11:06 AM	#8
WolfHuntress Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: PA Posts: 59	As much as I love the idea of letting wolves run wild, for heaven's sake when their growing population has such a hurting impact on other wildlife then something should be done to control it. In any case, it should be delt with by those who actually know what is happening in their own backyard, not by those who want to drag the "case" before the courts. Hmmm...I never thought "crying wolf!" was a plea FROM the wolf...

01-19-2006, 11:59 AM	#9
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	That's a beautiful post, Wolfhuntress, from a beautiful lady... : __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-19-2006, 01:42 PM	#10
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	good god get a room

01-19-2006, 02:23 PM	#11
wirehunt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otago New Zealand Posts: 656	Are you low on brownie points BG3? __________________ Happy Hunting

01-22-2006, 12:55 AM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	Well, the story has gone National and the Media has done it again...They wrote up the story implying that wolves were being shot from the AIR while the Planes were flying and that is just NOT TRUE. Sure, the planes were flying to SPOT the Wolves from the air, but, they had to LAND and SHOOT and retrieve them. 400 wolves were targeted out of an estimated 7000 to 10,000 and only in areas where Game populations are in severe decline. Wolves are NOT endangered or threatened species here in Alaska, But the Media writes these News Stories so as to sway public opinion , and I think it is a lot of El Toro PooPoo ! When it comes to the News...Believe Half of what you see and None of what you Hear ! ADF&G is currently reviewing the problems that the Judge asserted and working toward getting the program in compliance so it can resume ASAP ! I'll keep the forum posted with updates as they Happen ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-02-2006, 10:15 PM	#13
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	UPDATE.......UPDATE........UPDATE 02/02/06 Alaska's board of Game presented the Judge a revision in the policy made after a week of deliberation, and after review...... WOLF HUNTING / PREDATOR CONTROL is BACK ON TRACK ! To top that off, they also legalized the selling of BEAR HIDES/CLAWS/and SKULLS from some of the Predator control areas to entice more Bear hunters into those areas...Something that has never been legal before ! They did this to increase Moose populations in 5 ares of the state where aerial Wolf hunting is allowed! Officials estimate there are 30 to 40 thousand Brown bears and over 100 thousand Black bears in the State. ( God, I LOVE this Place!) Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-02-2006, 11:04 PM	#14
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	well I have mixed feeling, Im a huge dog lover. Wolfs are not dogs they are predators. we are also so , my feeling is its good to be on the top of the food chain---blast em

02-02-2006, 11:27 PM	#15
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	Hey 7mmag6, I have a pet Wolf, But, I control what she eats !!! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-02-2006, 11:58 PM	#16
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,479 Images: 9	Back when I was a meter reader for my company, one of my more interesting days involved a wolf. I let myself thru a gate one afternoon to go around the back of the house and read a meter on the other side, and came face to face with a female German Shepherd. I kept walking into her as she gave a little ground, and thought, "good-looking dog." Right behind her was a big young one, and I looked him over and thought, "good-looking wolf cross, too. Wonder where Papa Wolf is?" And as I rounded the corner, I said, "Oh. He's right here..." I'm no psychologist, but I know dogs. And you don't slow down, speed up or reverse direction on a dog in a tense situation; you don't want to trigger anything. So I kept walking, and he stayed frozen. I mean, not a muscle twitched. If the wind hadn't stirred his fur a little, I'd have thought he was a statue. Then I noticed his eyes were moving with me. I walked past him at about five feet, and when I got far enough he turned his head just barely enough to keep tracking me with his eyes. I went on around the second corner, read the meter and started back, and he hadn't moved. As I went by he barely shifted his head one more time to watch me walk past, and otherwise never moved a muscle. I walked past the other two, told the Shepherd, "good-looking kid you got there, Mama," and let myself out the gate again. When I got back to my truck, I realized the t-shirt under my uniform was soaking wet. I stopped at a gas station and stripped out of it, so I could stop shivering in the winter air.

02-03-2006, 12:24 AM	#17
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	Troy...Be glad you weren't wearing Milk Bone Underwear !!! LOL __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-03-2006, 12:52 AM	#19
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	No, I'm single..LOL... I have a real Wolf/ Akita (japanese wolf) Cross and she is very Unusual...She talks...she kisses...and she can smell caribou and Moose from inside the house 1/4 mile away ! 100lbs. and can crunch up a bone in short order. I have to Keep 2 collars on her to keep her from getting shot when we are out in the bush together. Very well behaved and devoted to me..I am her Alpha Male,I guess. She is not allowed to kill Moose, or Caribou, that's my job...The Cat(Bullet kitty) kicks her Butt all the time!LOL __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!