retirement

7mmag6 · 01-23-2006, 07:55 PM

I am retiring from the national lab after 32 years may 31, we will be moving to los lunas new mexico. where I have a couple of acres, you all come by ya hear

Snakebite · 01-23-2006, 08:08 PM

32 years is a long time at one job. Congratulations. You deserve a break after all those years.
I'm jealous. I've got years to go.

Oxford · 01-23-2006, 08:15 PM

Congratulations 7mmag6! Hopefully you'll be able to continue using your old firing range where you've shown us some pictures.
I hung it up eight years ago myself after 38 years. Can't believe how fast the years go by when you're having fun. And, I wish you and your wife much good health and happiness to go with that added time.

7mmag6 · 01-23-2006, 08:24 PM

Actually where I live now is not as rural as where Im going---horses, goats, huge sky, and guarded by ak-47

Oxford · 01-23-2006, 08:33 PM

7mmag6...That sounds like a great retirement site. Where I live we only have two legged goats, no horses, lots of pigs, and a sky full of smog.

7mmag6 · 01-23-2006, 08:39 PM

no smog here ox just turquise skies, lots of drought though, tumble weeds keep tumbling tumbling along

See them tumbling down,
Pledging their love to the ground!
Lonely, but free, I'll be found,
Drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds . . .

Cares of the past are behind,
Nowhere to go, but I'll find,
Just where the trail will wind,
Drifting along with the tumblin' tumbleweeds . . .

I know when night is gone,
That a new world's born at dawn!
I'll keep rolling along,
Deep in my heart as a song,
Here on the range I belong,
Drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds . . .

( tumbleweeds, tumbleweeds!
See them tumbling down,
Pledging their love to the ground! )
Lonely, but free, I'll be found,
Drifting along with the tumblin' tumbleweeds . . .

I know ( I know! ) when night is gone ( hmmm . . . )
That a new world's born at dawn!
I'll keep rolling along,
Deep in my heart as a song,
Here on the range I belong,
( drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds . . . )
Drifting along with the tumblin' tumbleweeds . . .
( tumbleweeds, tumbleweeds . . . )
Tumble . . . weeds . . .

jerry · 01-23-2006, 09:16 PM

Congrats 7mmag.
Thank you for all the years of contributing to the national security of our fine country.

I guess we take it from here.

Dale · 01-23-2006, 10:07 PM

7MM, I'm very happy for you.

I hope your retirement dreams all come true.

I'm not familiar with the area you have property but if you're happy then I wish you, and the family, all the best.

Yepper.......fer sure!

Rave · 01-24-2006, 11:19 AM

Retirement is good,I highly recommend it and would have done so earlier if I could have!:cheer: :right:

Shaun · 01-24-2006, 11:42 AM

Congrat's 7mm

Despoiler · 01-28-2006, 02:51 AM

Good Deal 7mm!

I hope you enjoy your retirement, I am sure that it will leave a lot more time for the important things like shooting.

troy2000 · 01-28-2006, 03:11 PM

Dick says, "congratulations!!"

See Jane. Jane says, "enjoy yourself!"

See Spot. Spot says, "Big effin' deal!"
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Ignore Spot. Spot is jealous as !@#$.

Bull Barrel · 01-28-2006, 03:21 PM

Any regrets on leaving? Or just relief?

Oxford · 01-28-2006, 03:40 PM

My thoughts on retirement...now that I've been retired 7 1/2 years:
1. Never look back if the decision is final
2. Some people should take an extended vacation, if possible, then continue working. Don't jump into retirement when all you really need to do is to have your battery re-charged.
3. If you're going to continue working for money, then why not use your most valuable skills and knowledge. That may be at the place you've worked at for many years. Otherwise, you're facing minimum wage jobs which basically just take up your time and is eaten up with additional taxes.
4. Before retiring, plan your after retirement activities carefully. It may not take long to clean up the garage, wash and wax your truck, and a few other jobs which you've waited to do till retirement. Do something which is challenging, plus those minor duties, as well.
5. Will your spouse continue to work (if married)? Or has she previously retired? Can you adjust to two of you facing each other every day 24/7? Plan some separate activities.
6. Give your spouse space to do their own activities. Expect the same from her.
7. Re-activate some your old skills which have been put aside for many years. Or...develop some new skills which you've wanted to do.
8. And above all, the number one thing to do is to stay out of your rocking chair. You'll feel better, get something accomplished, and live longer.
The list could go on but the key is to find something which you're happy doing and can afford to do. Good luck.
Ox

7mmag6 · 01-30-2006, 12:07 AM

no regrets bull barrel just relief, now I can do the things I want to,cut the soles off my shoes sit in a tree and learn to play the lute. yepper cant wait. honestly though I have to get this house ready to sell, painting, landscaping, all those things. After vietnam its all gravy

Gyrene · 01-30-2006, 01:26 AM

I pulled the plug in January 2000, due to a newly hired boss who was not up to managing, he was the epitome' of TOTAL INCOMPETENCE. He had one purpose in life, to fill his pockets with all the money he could take the company for. He was escorted off the property, 6 months after I retired, because he signed time sheets for his girlfriend (his Secretary, whom he had brought from PA with him when he was hired), authorizing 80 to 90 hours of pay, per week, for her for over 1 year; she was never at work more than 15 or 20 hours a week, and mostly only an hour or two a day. I don't know what he was thinking, Security videotaped the entrances and exits 24 hours a day and reviewed the videotapes to check on whether or not people were at work the number of hours they put on their time cards. At least 12 people I knew of were fired because they were clearly cheating on their time cards. Since the company is a Government contractor, he was lucky the Government didn't press charges!

It has been HE!!, for me, ever since. I had filed for divorce in 1997 (I had to file again in 2003, it was finally granted in 2005), and as a result, I had to live on my 401K for over 3 years, until I finally got hired by the County, and my Social Security kicked in. The financial settlement has finally come through 7 months after the divorce was granted (it was ordered by the court to be paid within 90 days). The company retirement was also held up by the divorce, and should start in February or March. Since the retirement was not started when I left the company, she cost both of us ALL of the medical and dental benefits. The state says it is a 50:50 deal, but she wanted 90%, which her girlfriends told her she could get if she held out.

My credit is so bad, now, that even when I spend cash, the Secret Service always gets called in to verify that the money is good. The good thing is, that in 5 more years, I will have the County retirement and get the same medical benefits that I receive as an active County employee, and I don't have to share it with anyone! If I continue as an employee beyond the 5 years, the retirement will only get better. With 15 years at the County, I will get about 10% more retirement than I did after almost 30 years at my company. I know this is Socialism at its best.

Actually, with the SS, my retirement, and my County pay, I will be making more than I did as a Software Project Engineer, and I have far better medical, dental and vision care benefits than I did with my company. Now I can get back on my feet financially, get the latent bills caught up, and maybe even restore my credit standing.

I got a phone call from my company on Tuesday last week, that they would like to talk to me about coming back to work, as they can't find people who have any work experience in Software Quality Engineering. It is a specialized field, and they need people with my qualifications to sustain their certification as a Level 5 CMMI Company. If they can't, they may lose certain of their Defense Software Contracts. I told them they can't pay me enough to come back to their BS, I would rather take my rifle and fight in the trenches than get the BS they dish out, even if it is for the Military and Naval Services.

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Gyrene · 01-30-2006, 02:05 AM

No problem 7mmag6! I am the happiest I have ever been in my life, since the divorce was granted.

Took my daughter to a birthday dinner for her last week, and we had a very good time. By the way, when I filed for the divorce, she said, "Dad, you should have done this 20 years ago, and I would have gone with you!"

I don't usually quote the guy, but, "FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST!" (MLK)

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7mmag6 · 01-30-2006, 02:57 AM

I dont go there no war stories

gmatov · 01-31-2006, 04:00 AM

Oxford,

As I have told many of my compatriots over the years, and I am a millhunkey, my pension does not rise by tons of money if I stay longer, as Salaried, and management people's do, when you can, go.

If you earn 4000 a month, take all the deductions from it.

If you retire on 3000 a month, you are ahead of the game. My guys all say, well, yeah, but I get overtime. OK. Today you do.

Take your pension, and if you need more money, go to WalMArt and be a greeter at 8 bucks an hour. You are 7 bucks an hour ahead.

If you are working for more than a buck an hour, considering what you would get if you took your retirement, you are sure in a different field than a millhunk. If you are a gov't employee, no, stay till you die, your heirs will keep drawing your pay, so long as they can find your grave to register you to vote.

Cheers,

George:target:

Oxford · 01-31-2006, 11:47 AM

gmatov...I would never demean anyone for working, whether it be in retirement for $1 an hour or $100 per hour, or as a volunteer. A person can never fully understand another's situation, or feel all the problems related to their lives.
So I still emphasize, in retirement do whateve it takes to make you happy, pays your bills and promote good health both physically and mentally.

01-23-2006, 07:55 PM	#1
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	retirement I am retiring from the national lab after 32 years may 31, we will be moving to los lunas new mexico. where I have a couple of acres, you all come by ya hear

01-23-2006, 08:15 PM	#3
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,101 Blog Entries: 4	Congratulations 7mmag6! Hopefully you'll be able to continue using your old firing range where you've shown us some pictures. I hung it up eight years ago myself after 38 years. Can't believe how fast the years go by when you're having fun. And, I wish you and your wife much good health and happiness to go with that added time. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

01-23-2006, 08:33 PM	#5
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,101 Blog Entries: 4	7mmag6...That sounds like a great retirement site. Where I live we only have two legged goats, no horses, lots of pigs, and a sky full of smog. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

01-23-2006, 08:39 PM	#6
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	no smog here ox just turquise skies, lots of drought though, tumble weeds keep tumbling tumbling along See them tumbling down, Pledging their love to the ground! Lonely, but free, I'll be found, Drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds . . . Cares of the past are behind, Nowhere to go, but I'll find, Just where the trail will wind, Drifting along with the tumblin' tumbleweeds . . . I know when night is gone, That a new world's born at dawn! I'll keep rolling along, Deep in my heart as a song, Here on the range I belong, Drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds . . . ( tumbleweeds, tumbleweeds! See them tumbling down, Pledging their love to the ground! ) Lonely, but free, I'll be found, Drifting along with the tumblin' tumbleweeds . . . I know ( I know! ) when night is gone ( hmmm . . . ) That a new world's born at dawn! I'll keep rolling along, Deep in my heart as a song, Here on the range I belong, ( drifting along with the tumbling tumbleweeds . . . ) Drifting along with the tumblin' tumbleweeds . . . ( tumbleweeds, tumbleweeds . . . ) Tumble . . . weeds . . . Last edited by 7mmag6; 01-23-2006 at 08:43 PM.

01-23-2006, 09:16 PM	#7
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11,199 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Congrats 7mmag. Thank you for all the years of contributing to the national security of our fine country. I guess we take it from here. __________________ Joe the plumber is screwed

01-23-2006, 08:08 PM	#2
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,844	32 years is a long time at one job. Congratulations. You deserve a break after all those years. I'm jealous. I've got years to go.

01-23-2006, 08:24 PM	#4
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	Actually where I live now is not as rural as where Im going---horses, goats, huge sky, and guarded by ak-47

01-23-2006, 10:07 PM	#8
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	7MM, I'm very happy for you. I hope your retirement dreams all come true. I'm not familiar with the area you have property but if you're happy then I wish you, and the family, all the best. Yepper.......fer sure! __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

01-24-2006, 11:19 AM	#9
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	Retirement is good,I highly recommend it and would have done so earlier if I could have!:cheer: :right: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

01-24-2006, 11:42 AM	#10
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	Congrat's 7mm __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-28-2006, 02:51 AM	#11
Despoiler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Occupied Territory of California Posts: 2,232	Good Deal 7mm! I hope you enjoy your retirement, I am sure that it will leave a lot more time for the important things like shooting.

01-28-2006, 03:11 PM	#12
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,017 Images: 9	See Dick Dick says, "congratulations!!" See Jane. Jane says, "enjoy yourself!" See Spot. Spot says, "Big effin' deal!" ... ... ... ... ... ... Ignore Spot. Spot is jealous as !@#$. Last edited by troy2000; 01-28-2006 at 04:50 PM.

01-28-2006, 03:21 PM	#13
Bull Barrel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia Posts: 239	Any regrets on leaving? Or just relief? __________________ Beautiful Noisy Deadly Machines--What's Not to Like? :assult:

01-28-2006, 03:40 PM	#14
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,101 Blog Entries: 4	My thoughts on retirement...now that I've been retired 7 1/2 years: 1. Never look back if the decision is final 2. Some people should take an extended vacation, if possible, then continue working. Don't jump into retirement when all you really need to do is to have your battery re-charged. 3. If you're going to continue working for money, then why not use your most valuable skills and knowledge. That may be at the place you've worked at for many years. Otherwise, you're facing minimum wage jobs which basically just take up your time and is eaten up with additional taxes. 4. Before retiring, plan your after retirement activities carefully. It may not take long to clean up the garage, wash and wax your truck, and a few other jobs which you've waited to do till retirement. Do something which is challenging, plus those minor duties, as well. 5. Will your spouse continue to work (if married)? Or has she previously retired? Can you adjust to two of you facing each other every day 24/7? Plan some separate activities. 6. Give your spouse space to do their own activities. Expect the same from her. 7. Re-activate some your old skills which have been put aside for many years. Or...develop some new skills which you've wanted to do. 8. And above all, the number one thing to do is to stay out of your rocking chair. You'll feel better, get something accomplished, and live longer. The list could go on but the key is to find something which you're happy doing and can afford to do. Good luck. Ox __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

01-30-2006, 12:07 AM	#15
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	no regrets bull barrel just relief, now I can do the things I want to,cut the soles off my shoes sit in a tree and learn to play the lute. yepper cant wait. honestly though I have to get this house ready to sell, painting, landscaping, all those things. After vietnam its all gravy

01-30-2006, 01:26 AM	#16
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	I pulled the plug in January 2000, due to a newly hired boss who was not up to managing, he was the epitome' of TOTAL INCOMPETENCE. He had one purpose in life, to fill his pockets with all the money he could take the company for. He was escorted off the property, 6 months after I retired, because he signed time sheets for his girlfriend (his Secretary, whom he had brought from PA with him when he was hired), authorizing 80 to 90 hours of pay, per week, for her for over 1 year; she was never at work more than 15 or 20 hours a week, and mostly only an hour or two a day. I don't know what he was thinking, Security videotaped the entrances and exits 24 hours a day and reviewed the videotapes to check on whether or not people were at work the number of hours they put on their time cards. At least 12 people I knew of were fired because they were clearly cheating on their time cards. Since the company is a Government contractor, he was lucky the Government didn't press charges! It has been HE!!, for me, ever since. I had filed for divorce in 1997 (I had to file again in 2003, it was finally granted in 2005), and as a result, I had to live on my 401K for over 3 years, until I finally got hired by the County, and my Social Security kicked in. The financial settlement has finally come through 7 months after the divorce was granted (it was ordered by the court to be paid within 90 days). The company retirement was also held up by the divorce, and should start in February or March. Since the retirement was not started when I left the company, she cost both of us ALL of the medical and dental benefits. The state says it is a 50:50 deal, but she wanted 90%, which her girlfriends told her she could get if she held out. My credit is so bad, now, that even when I spend cash, the Secret Service always gets called in to verify that the money is good. The good thing is, that in 5 more years, I will have the County retirement and get the same medical benefits that I receive as an active County employee, and I don't have to share it with anyone! If I continue as an employee beyond the 5 years, the retirement will only get better. With 15 years at the County, I will get about 10% more retirement than I did after almost 30 years at my company. I know this is Socialism at its best. Actually, with the SS, my retirement, and my County pay, I will be making more than I did as a Software Project Engineer, and I have far better medical, dental and vision care benefits than I did with my company. Now I can get back on my feet financially, get the latent bills caught up, and maybe even restore my credit standing. I got a phone call from my company on Tuesday last week, that they would like to talk to me about coming back to work, as they can't find people who have any work experience in Software Quality Engineering. It is a specialized field, and they need people with my qualifications to sustain their certification as a Level 5 CMMI Company. If they can't, they may lose certain of their Defense Software Contracts. I told them they can't pay me enough to come back to their BS, I would rather take my rifle and fight in the trenches than get the BS they dish out, even if it is for the Military and Naval Services. `

01-30-2006, 02:05 AM	#17
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	No problem 7mmag6! I am the happiest I have ever been in my life, since the divorce was granted. Took my daughter to a birthday dinner for her last week, and we had a very good time. By the way, when I filed for the divorce, she said, "Dad, you should have done this 20 years ago, and I would have gone with you!" I don't usually quote the guy, but, "FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST!" (MLK) ` Last edited by Gyrene; 01-30-2006 at 02:13 AM.

01-30-2006, 02:57 AM	#18
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	deleted posts I dont go there no war stories Last edited by 7mmag6; 01-30-2006 at 03:01 AM.

01-31-2006, 04:00 AM	#19
gmatov Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 38	Oxford, As I have told many of my compatriots over the years, and I am a millhunkey, my pension does not rise by tons of money if I stay longer, as Salaried, and management people's do, when you can, go. If you earn 4000 a month, take all the deductions from it. If you retire on 3000 a month, you are ahead of the game. My guys all say, well, yeah, but I get overtime. OK. Today you do. Take your pension, and if you need more money, go to WalMArt and be a greeter at 8 bucks an hour. You are 7 bucks an hour ahead. If you are working for more than a buck an hour, considering what you would get if you took your retirement, you are sure in a different field than a millhunk. If you are a gov't employee, no, stay till you die, your heirs will keep drawing your pay, so long as they can find your grave to register you to vote. Cheers, George:target:

01-31-2006, 11:47 AM	#20
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,101 Blog Entries: 4	gmatov...I would never demean anyone for working, whether it be in retirement for $1 an hour or $100 per hour, or as a volunteer. A person can never fully understand another's situation, or feel all the problems related to their lives. So I still emphasize, in retirement do whateve it takes to make you happy, pays your bills and promote good health both physically and mentally. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".