According to Fox News

Rave · 01-31-2006, 10:34 AM

The Mexican drug cartel are the big boys now,having taken over the drug trade from Columbia(so much easier to get it in to the safe houses for distribution.)
They did a 412 billion trade last year,and the future looks good for them.

iflylow74 · 01-31-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rave

They did a 412 billion trade last year,and the future looks good for them.

I knew I shoulda bought some of their stock!!!!!:

Shaun · 01-31-2006, 10:52 AM

we need to get our guns sighted in boys I think we are going to get to a point where the entire area will require armed interdiction or where bullets are flying both ways over the border.

Dale · 01-31-2006, 01:17 PM

The drugs along the Texas to California border corridor has always been Mexican controlled, especially by the Medillin Cartel.

In fact, since we erradicated Pablo the South American 'trade' has not been nearly as profitable....although they are still hanging around for a decent percentage.

WetKnife · 01-31-2006, 01:27 PM

Time to turn our energies inward and south of the border. These people have no idea who the are messing with !

Beer Forever · 01-31-2006, 02:02 PM

Listen guys,

It is not the drugs that are the problem. I live in a border town 20 miles from the border here in Arizona and I see what you guys are talking about everyday. You see the minute-men on TV and I see them in my backyard. You see the stats on the news and I see it all around me.

2 weeks ago a Blackhawk landed in my back yard. Feds came out of everywhere screaming at me to go back in my home. They were in MY yard that was in my property that I BOUGHT! The house next door was storing drugs and they are pointing their rifles at my head. THey tried to tell me what to do in my property at my house. I told them to leave, but of course they did not. Young jumpy kids with their fingers on the triggers libel to AD at anytime.

I worry more about the feds more than the cartels. THe cartels never put a gun to my head and took over my property. The gov. would put a bullet in my head for not going in my home and not care less. I know people who run drugs and they have never done anything to harm me.

The illegal immigrants who are entering this country in large numbers are the problem. THey could have ill intentions but pot has no bad intention. Who cares about a stupid plant when people are crossing our borders who could be terrorists. I have crossed the border many times myself, it is not hard.!!!!

Beer Forever · 01-31-2006, 02:09 PM

Sorry Jesse. I just read your off topic thread and I'll cool my jets.

Rufus Rhastus J · 01-31-2006, 02:11 PM

sad thought, Shaun.

Rave · 01-31-2006, 03:47 PM

A Blackhawk lands in your back yard performing a raid on a drug house next door,tell you to go back inside and you tell them to leave?
Dam,what can I say?:insane:

:nod:

Mooseman684 · 02-01-2006, 12:07 AM

They Violated YOUR airspace and YOUR private property Rights ...Had they done that to me, There would still be a burning BLackhawk in My back yard and The FAA, MY Attorney, and the 6'oclock News Doing a story about the DEA or whoever it was Being shot up by a citizen with a .50 cal rifle after being told to leave...NO Warrant for me, YOU BETTER FLEE !

FutureMarine · 02-01-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by iflylow74

I knew I shoulda bought some of their stock!!!!!:

Sure glad i did.:nod:

Beer Forever · 02-01-2006, 10:43 AM

Mooseman, I thought about it. It is a violation of my civil rights to tell me what to do in my own yard. With things the way they are now adays they can do whatever they want and there is nothing you can do about it. By the way, the people got away and the raid costs thousands for nothing. Good use of govenment time and money.

Troy · 02-01-2006, 02:55 PM

maybe i'm crazy, but if the law wants to use my property as a staging ground to raid a neighbor that is producing drugs, i give em right of way. or maybe i would be better off keeping the drugs next door to me at the cost over an arguement of rights? i can see where that would benefit my kids. and then to have the nerve to tell me to leave so i dont get my head shot off if things go south? who the !!!! are they to be concerned with my safety? sorry if my being sarcastic offends anyone, but using the "cops raiding the drug dealer/producer next door and i dont want them setting foot on my property scenario" sounds rediculous to me. even if they are running in and acting pushy. there isn't always time to sit and exlain things i guess. give it up and clean up some trash. if you can help in a way, especially in a way that doesn't endanger you, you should treat it as your duty.

Beer Forever · 02-01-2006, 03:04 PM

ACTING PUSHY!!!!!!!! They put a gun to my head and took over my property. You have no idea howthey are. They arn't niceor anything like that. If you come out of your house the first thing they do is point a gun to your head. NOt please get back in your home. It's stay where the !!!! you are and don't move, don't forget they are in my property while they are saying this. A LITTLE PUSHY. That is taking over my house. The drug dealer got away and the feds weren't even close to catching them. They made themselves look like a joke because the whole neighborhood saw this. One of my neighbors is a judge and he was even told to shut the !!!! up and had a gun pointed to his head. WE ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND DON'T DESERVE TO BE TREATED LIKE THAT! A LITTLE PUSHY, EXCUSE ME WHILE I LAUGH. Next time you have a fed point an assult rifle to your head, then maybe you will understand.

Shaun · 02-01-2006, 03:24 PM

SKS did you even consider the fact that they could have thought you were just as much of a threat or even a decoy to give those in the neighboring house a chance at destroying the evidence. There are many safety issues that these guys had to concern themselves with and having your interfere with them is just another that takes their minds off thier job. Put yourself in the officers shoes what would you do if your already on an adreneline high and someone comes out as your about to deal with an armed assailant. If your upset call the departments supervisor and register a formal complaint.

Troy · 02-01-2006, 03:36 PM

well obviously my post was taken way out of context, that is why i put an apology in it in advance cause i seen this coming. guess i shouda just kept my opinions to myself rather than stir things up more. dam those "troys", they cant walk past a pile of crap without picking up a stick and stirring it up.

Shaun · 02-01-2006, 03:53 PM

I am closing this one guys

01-31-2006, 10:34 AM	#1
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	According to Fox News The Mexican drug cartel are the big boys now,having taken over the drug trade from Columbia(so much easier to get it in to the safe houses for distribution.) They did a 412 billion trade last year,and the future looks good for them. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

01-31-2006, 10:52 AM	#3
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	we need to get our guns sighted in boys I think we are going to get to a point where the entire area will require armed interdiction or where bullets are flying both ways over the border. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-31-2006, 01:17 PM	#4
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	The drugs along the Texas to California border corridor has always been Mexican controlled, especially by the Medillin Cartel. In fact, since we erradicated Pablo the South American 'trade' has not been nearly as profitable....although they are still hanging around for a decent percentage. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

01-31-2006, 02:02 PM	#6
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	Listen guys, It is not the drugs that are the problem. I live in a border town 20 miles from the border here in Arizona and I see what you guys are talking about everyday. You see the minute-men on TV and I see them in my backyard. You see the stats on the news and I see it all around me. 2 weeks ago a Blackhawk landed in my back yard. Feds came out of everywhere screaming at me to go back in my home. They were in MY yard that was in my property that I BOUGHT! The house next door was storing drugs and they are pointing their rifles at my head. THey tried to tell me what to do in my property at my house. I told them to leave, but of course they did not. Young jumpy kids with their fingers on the triggers libel to AD at anytime. I worry more about the feds more than the cartels. THe cartels never put a gun to my head and took over my property. The gov. would put a bullet in my head for not going in my home and not care less. I know people who run drugs and they have never done anything to harm me. The illegal immigrants who are entering this country in large numbers are the problem. THey could have ill intentions but pot has no bad intention. Who cares about a stupid plant when people are crossing our borders who could be terrorists. I have crossed the border many times myself, it is not hard.!!!! __________________ Paramedic sks forever

01-31-2006, 02:09 PM	#7
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	Sorry Jesse. I just read your off topic thread and I'll cool my jets. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

01-31-2006, 01:27 PM	#5
WetKnife Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 239	Time to turn our energies inward and south of the border. These people have no idea who the are messing with !

01-31-2006, 02:11 PM	#8
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	sad thought, Shaun. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

01-31-2006, 03:47 PM	#9
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	A Blackhawk lands in your back yard performing a raid on a drug house next door,tell you to go back inside and you tell them to leave? Dam,what can I say?:insane: :nod: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

02-01-2006, 12:07 AM	#10
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,528 Images: 2	They Violated YOUR airspace and YOUR private property Rights ...Had they done that to me, There would still be a burning BLackhawk in My back yard and The FAA, MY Attorney, and the 6'oclock News Doing a story about the DEA or whoever it was Being shot up by a citizen with a .50 cal rifle after being told to leave...NO Warrant for me, YOU BETTER FLEE ! __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

02-01-2006, 10:43 AM	#12
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	Mooseman, I thought about it. It is a violation of my civil rights to tell me what to do in my own yard. With things the way they are now adays they can do whatever they want and there is nothing you can do about it. By the way, the people got away and the raid costs thousands for nothing. Good use of govenment time and money. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

02-01-2006, 02:55 PM	#13
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,505 Images: 3	maybe i'm crazy, but if the law wants to use my property as a staging ground to raid a neighbor that is producing drugs, i give em right of way. or maybe i would be better off keeping the drugs next door to me at the cost over an arguement of rights? i can see where that would benefit my kids. and then to have the nerve to tell me to leave so i dont get my head shot off if things go south? who the !!!! are they to be concerned with my safety? sorry if my being sarcastic offends anyone, but using the "cops raiding the drug dealer/producer next door and i dont want them setting foot on my property scenario" sounds rediculous to me. even if they are running in and acting pushy. there isn't always time to sit and exlain things i guess. give it up and clean up some trash. if you can help in a way, especially in a way that doesn't endanger you, you should treat it as your duty.

02-01-2006, 03:04 PM	#14
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	ACTING PUSHY!!!!!!!! They put a gun to my head and took over my property. You have no idea howthey are. They arn't niceor anything like that. If you come out of your house the first thing they do is point a gun to your head. NOt please get back in your home. It's stay where the !!!! you are and don't move, don't forget they are in my property while they are saying this. A LITTLE PUSHY. That is taking over my house. The drug dealer got away and the feds weren't even close to catching them. They made themselves look like a joke because the whole neighborhood saw this. One of my neighbors is a judge and he was even told to shut the !!!! up and had a gun pointed to his head. WE ARE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND DON'T DESERVE TO BE TREATED LIKE THAT! A LITTLE PUSHY, EXCUSE ME WHILE I LAUGH. Next time you have a fed point an assult rifle to your head, then maybe you will understand. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

02-01-2006, 03:24 PM	#15
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	SKS did you even consider the fact that they could have thought you were just as much of a threat or even a decoy to give those in the neighboring house a chance at destroying the evidence. There are many safety issues that these guys had to concern themselves with and having your interfere with them is just another that takes their minds off thier job. Put yourself in the officers shoes what would you do if your already on an adreneline high and someone comes out as your about to deal with an armed assailant. If your upset call the departments supervisor and register a formal complaint. __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

02-01-2006, 03:36 PM	#16
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,505 Images: 3	well obviously my post was taken way out of context, that is why i put an apology in it in advance cause i seen this coming. guess i shouda just kept my opinions to myself rather than stir things up more. dam those "troys", they cant walk past a pile of crap without picking up a stick and stirring it up.

02-01-2006, 03:53 PM	#17
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,619 Images: 1	I am closing this one guys __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/