Port Gate

Ctwo · 02-16-2006, 08:10 PM

No way? We sell 6 US ports to Arabs?

Rave · 02-16-2006, 09:07 PM

They have Mexico now,although I guess one can never have too many points of entry,grrrrrrrrr!:insane:

Rufus Rhastus J · 02-17-2006, 09:42 AM

I don't see why not...we give them everything else.

iflylow74 · 02-17-2006, 10:02 AM

Didn't I read somewhere that Panama government had sold the Panama Canal to a company owned by China? Scary if true!!

Rave · 02-18-2006, 06:04 PM

We been SOLD OUT,Yupper.

Rufus Rhastus J · 02-19-2006, 10:09 AM

Yup, you would be shocked if you knew just how far it has gone. Got any tin foil?

Ctwo · 02-21-2006, 10:24 PM

Did I hear they snuck two more ports into the deal...the ones that ship our heavy military weapons like tanks and helos, etc...?

Don't forget Apocolypse March.

Tin foil hats...? Is that for the fallout? Man, I hope it lands in my back yard.

Outriderdark · 02-21-2006, 11:15 PM

The UAE is buying the company from the Brits. The relevant question is why any foreign entity is responsible for port security. It doesn't matter that it's the UAE. It's not like a bunch of Islamic Clerics will be patrolling the Port of Philadelphia.
The real question is why ANY foriegn entity has been in control of these ports.

whirlwind · 02-22-2006, 12:21 AM

it is a terrible idea! but the way i understand it is that port security will still be the responsibility of the u.s. coast guard and local law enforcement,and the arab company will only be contracted for the management of the ports operation. that being said...personally i wouldnt let the little bastages manage a burger king!

troy2000 · 02-22-2006, 12:44 AM

At least our 7-11 convenience stores are safe. Last time I checked, the Armenians still had them firmly in hand.

Rufus Rhastus J · 02-22-2006, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outriderdark

The UAE is buying the company from the Brits. The relevant question is why any foreign entity is responsible for port security. It doesn't matter that it's the UAE. It's not like a bunch of Islamic Clerics will be patrolling the Port of Philadelphia.
The real question is why ANY foriegn entity has been in control of these ports.

these are the same folks (saudi) who funded, if you can believe anything that comes from the white house and bush, or his lackies, 9/11 and the terrorists. We give them enough of our money and we should just say "NO!!!!!"

besides, i'm tired of little pieces of America being sold to people who aren't Americans and people who hate America. Besides, is there no one in America who is capable to do this job? Why is it being given to outsiders in the first place? This is America's security....not for outsiders. Those responsible should all be shot and/or tied up and gasoline soaked and burning tireds should be placed around thier necks!

What is wrong with bush and his buds? Could it be they are all traitors? I'm beginning to think so....

Rave · 02-22-2006, 10:19 AM

Don't know for sure,but I heard from a source that seems to do his homework that that Brit company has been bought by the EAU.
If thet is the case it sounds like SOMEONE is doing their business rather well.

WetKnife · 02-22-2006, 11:19 AM

Guess what Bush ! You push this down our throats and you deserve to be impeached ! Simply it comes down to paying off favors ! They made him President and now he has alot of !!! to kiss. You could build an American Company overnight to do this job. X-Military folks who know how to get things done and could safe guard these ports.

Ctwo · 02-22-2006, 12:07 PM

I heard that Bush was not even aware.

The London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. was bought by Dubai Ports World, a state-owned business in the United Arab Emirates, or UAE.

Sure port security will still be managed by the US based unions. This does, however, make us much more vulnerable, especially with the addition of the two ports shipping military gear.

It opens the possiblility of infiltration of the vital facilities by terrorists and give them knowledge of what ship has what goods, and which to target.

dhermesc · 02-22-2006, 03:57 PM

The same company also owns many foreign ports that ship to the US. To me the mistake was made when this was sold to a foriegn nation. If I recall correctly this occurred under Reagan and overrode his VETO(?) pen, he said 20+ years ago we would regret it.

Stopper · 02-22-2006, 04:17 PM

Well, atually WE are still in charge of security. They just own the ports and do the loading/off-loading and whatever other business a port does.

I too am against it, just "off shoring" more jobs. Just more of the same ol same ol from this administration.

Outriderdark · 02-22-2006, 05:23 PM

The more I read the more it seems to be alot of political positioning and much ado about nothing.
Both the British company and the Dubai company are holding companies that buy and sell other companies. They don't actually have anything to do with actual operations. Like Phillip Morris buying Nabisco.
As Stopper pointed out, WE have always been and would still be responsible for our own port security.
Besides all that, Dubai and the UAE have been staunch and unwavering allies of ours.

Stopper · 02-22-2006, 05:48 PM

Yes they have, but if american jobs are lost because of who owns the port, it could turn ugly. I say keep it American, American jobs, American owned. Screw the new world order, diversity and all that American value eroding BS.

Outriderdark · 02-22-2006, 05:50 PM

I don't think the jobs will change one way or another. But I agree that globalization of fundamental businesses like ports may be a bad idea.

Bull Barrel · 02-22-2006, 06:13 PM

I think it's cool how the prez sez--hey I didn't know about that--and that's it--no more hassles--I didn't know--I'm the world's most powerful leader, but, hey, I didn't know...next question please...

02-16-2006, 08:10 PM	#1
Ctwo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 344	Port Gate No way? We sell 6 US ports to Arabs?

02-16-2006, 09:07 PM	#2
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	They have Mexico now,although I guess one can never have too many points of entry,grrrrrrrrr!:insane: __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

02-17-2006, 09:42 AM	#3
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	I don't see why not...we give them everything else. __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

02-17-2006, 10:02 AM	#4
iflylow74 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bizzaroworld Posts: 1,065 Blog Entries: 11	Didn't I read somewhere that Panama government had sold the Panama Canal to a company owned by China? Scary if true!! __________________ Just because you can't win doesn't mean you shouldn't fight.

02-18-2006, 06:04 PM	#5
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	We been SOLD OUT,Yupper. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

02-19-2006, 10:09 AM	#6
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	Yup, you would be shocked if you knew just how far it has gone. Got any tin foil? __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

02-21-2006, 10:24 PM	#7
Ctwo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 344	Did I hear they snuck two more ports into the deal...the ones that ship our heavy military weapons like tanks and helos, etc...? Don't forget Apocolypse March. Tin foil hats...? Is that for the fallout? Man, I hope it lands in my back yard.

02-21-2006, 11:15 PM	#8
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	The UAE is buying the company from the Brits. The relevant question is why any foreign entity is responsible for port security. It doesn't matter that it's the UAE. It's not like a bunch of Islamic Clerics will be patrolling the Port of Philadelphia. The real question is why ANY foriegn entity has been in control of these ports. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

02-22-2006, 12:21 AM	#9
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,751 Images: 1	it is a terrible idea! but the way i understand it is that port security will still be the responsibility of the u.s. coast guard and local law enforcement,and the arab company will only be contracted for the management of the ports operation. that being said...personally i wouldnt let the little bastages manage a burger king! __________________ De oppresso liber !

02-22-2006, 12:44 AM	#10
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,020 Images: 9	At least our 7-11 convenience stores are safe. Last time I checked, the Armenians still had them firmly in hand.

02-22-2006, 10:19 AM	#12
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 7,053	Don't know for sure,but I heard from a source that seems to do his homework that that Brit company has been bought by the EAU. If thet is the case it sounds like SOMEONE is doing their business rather well. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

02-22-2006, 11:19 AM	#13
WetKnife Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 239	Guess what Bush ! You push this down our throats and you deserve to be impeached ! Simply it comes down to paying off favors ! They made him President and now he has alot of !!! to kiss. You could build an American Company overnight to do this job. X-Military folks who know how to get things done and could safe guard these ports.

02-22-2006, 12:07 PM	#14
Ctwo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 344	I heard that Bush was not even aware. The London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. was bought by Dubai Ports World, a state-owned business in the United Arab Emirates, or UAE. Sure port security will still be managed by the US based unions. This does, however, make us much more vulnerable, especially with the addition of the two ports shipping military gear. It opens the possiblility of infiltration of the vital facilities by terrorists and give them knowledge of what ship has what goods, and which to target.

02-22-2006, 03:57 PM	#15
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 1,762	The same company also owns many foreign ports that ship to the US. To me the mistake was made when this was sold to a foriegn nation. If I recall correctly this occurred under Reagan and overrode his VETO(?) pen, he said 20+ years ago we would regret it. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

02-22-2006, 04:17 PM	#16
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,212 Images: 1	Well, atually WE are still in charge of security. They just own the ports and do the loading/off-loading and whatever other business a port does. I too am against it, just "off shoring" more jobs. Just more of the same ol same ol from this administration. __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

02-22-2006, 05:23 PM	#17
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	The more I read the more it seems to be alot of political positioning and much ado about nothing. Both the British company and the Dubai company are holding companies that buy and sell other companies. They don't actually have anything to do with actual operations. Like Phillip Morris buying Nabisco. As Stopper pointed out, WE have always been and would still be responsible for our own port security. Besides all that, Dubai and the UAE have been staunch and unwavering allies of ours. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

02-22-2006, 05:48 PM	#18
Stopper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansass Posts: 2,212 Images: 1	Yes they have, but if american jobs are lost because of who owns the port, it could turn ugly. I say keep it American, American jobs, American owned. Screw the new world order, diversity and all that American value eroding BS. __________________ They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"

02-22-2006, 05:50 PM	#19
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	I don't think the jobs will change one way or another. But I agree that globalization of fundamental businesses like ports may be a bad idea. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

02-22-2006, 06:13 PM	#20
Bull Barrel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia Posts: 239	I think it's cool how the prez sez--hey I didn't know about that--and that's it--no more hassles--I didn't know--I'm the world's most powerful leader, but, hey, I didn't know...next question please... __________________ Beautiful Noisy Deadly Machines--What's Not to Like? :assult: