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Old 02-23-2006, 02:41 AM   #21
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the japanese were interned, my mother was involved in this partialy for what ever in ww2, but also for thier protection, they would be dead meat, my dads generation would kill em believe it. off to camps but its actually for thier own good my dads generation would have killed every one, thats the fact

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Old 02-23-2006, 02:45 AM   #22
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Holy Crap ! Outriderdark you gotta be kidding me. Is it enough that in a society of free speech -there is no free speech. Liberals and u my friend has made it impossible to speak openly of a invasion of people who will destroy this country. I put the Illegals in the same boat as Al Quada except Bin Laden is openly contemptious of our ...Oh I hate them
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You need to pick a side. No fence sitting on this topic.
I think he's picked a side.
He doesn't like illegals, but doesn't hate mexicans.
He doesn't like illegals, but is not a racist.

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Free speech baby !
You get to say yours, people call you on it.
Not being racist doesn't mean you're "liberal".
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you honestly think the japanese were interned for suspected spying---- nope for thier own good, a differnt time
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Old 02-23-2006, 03:00 AM   #24
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its so hard to moderate this room, its like the wild west,every one has thier 44 s out blazing, blood in the gutters dang guys, thats what I like about you guys no prisoners no holds barred. out in the street blazing away

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Old 02-23-2006, 05:46 AM   #25
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you honestly think the japanese were interned for suspected spying---- nope for thier own good, a differnt time
do you really think the japanese were put in camps for some percieved problem---no the greatest generation would have killed every last one of them. this is one of our dirtiest little secrets

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Old 02-23-2006, 06:26 AM   #26
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I am sorry that I started this thread while in an Ill mood. I am an animal lover and this illegal alien killed 6 dogs because he is a souless monster. I really don't hate our southern neighbors ,but I still don't want them here. I place the problem of aliens #1 on things to do when Bush gets out of the White House. He refuses to enact any legislation or to militarize the border.
I can see now that Bush is President not because he woke up one day and said aloud" I want to be in charge" ,but some powerful lobby group said "Hey GW we need you to be in charge". Theres a difference and its showing up in all these scandals surrounding him.
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Angry I see your point...

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You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
There's a difference between wanting to solve the illegal immigration problem and "hating Mexicans/South Americans".
There seems to be a trend around here. Dumping on non-whites.
I'm amazed that posts will get edited for words that aren't even foul language but no one takes issue with the blatant, and generally violent, racism that certain members so openly advocate.
And don't go around including me in your "us citizens" remark. If you try to "do something" around me because someone is Mexican or South American or Middle Eastern looking, you'll find yourself on the wrong side of my irons.
Can you tell the difference between an illegal alien and an American born or legal immigrant by looking at them? Can you tell the difference between an honest Lebanese shop owner and an AlCaida operative by looking at them? Can you tell the difference between a serial killer and your average white male by looking at him? How about a Russian young man excited about coming to America and a Russkie Mob enforcer by looking at him?
The vicious generalizations need to stop and people need to start using thier brains. This is the stuff that will kill America, not Mexicans or Arabs.
If y'all care so much about the Constitution so much, maybe you should study it along with the rest of American history and get a clue.

:ballons: Seems like the best answer is to kick all thier butts outa here and solve both our problem and your problem with us haveing a probem. They are scum and need to be gone. The illegals are hurting our job situation and as to the lebonese or whatever rag heads you refer to, as witnessed in recent days, all it takes is a silly cartoon and they become wild and murederous. they can not/never be trusted and should be gone from our landscapes. I know you'll come back with some wordy noble resonse, and that's cool...however, it still does not change the validity of my comments.
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:48 AM   #28
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Angry I understand your outrage....

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Read an article in the local paper today at breakfast. Illegal Aliens living 25 to a house in a town called Roosevelt , one of these pieces of crap were training PitBulls for Dog Fights . This guy 21 y/o loser was using a puppy as a training tool for an adult dog. The puppy lost an eye and had deep bite marks all over the head. At the start of this winter the guy had 10 puppies when ASPCA people arrived last week only 5 malnourished puppies were left. They never were allowed in the house and the mother died do to strangulation from having to short aleash .
I read the rest of the paper but I was most disturbed by the actions of this shitbird and his lack of human deciency. He was released even though he is an Illegal Alien on $15,000 bail. People we have to deport these SOB's . How do we admonish our police when they use force to subdue these !!!!!!!s. Excessive force BS ! These people deserve a .45 cal enema !
Our Courts should do something before us citizens do something. Why does Bush want these people to have a free pass here ? Working Amnesty Program he is such an !!! !
What is sad is that there are those who still don't get it. Not just the dog thing, it's a fundamental differance in levels of civility. something that is missing from many folks. Like takeing a bath, the french think we are unbalanced because we don't want to smell like a dog's rump! go figure.
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Angry Right on!

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the love of cheap and I mean cheap labor. Means more money for the greedy anti-american employer's. Bush loves them because he's told to by his puppeteer's. It means more "growth", it's not real growth, but they call it that because of the numbers (of illegals).
Remember, bush is all about money, he could give a fat rats arss about America or the Constitution or us (the people).
:insane: Your talent for verbalizing the obvious is without match! I applaude you for your steadfast support of America and Her citizens/worker! Now, if America can survive until bush is gone...we may have another chance to be great again! God Bless America! We need the Lord's help. I hope He is watching.
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Oh He's watching, alright...I'm just not sure you're gonna be happy with what He's thinking right now...
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Angry Well, that just warms the cockeles(sorry, my spelling sucks) of my heart.

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Are you aware that there are 37,000,000 native born or legal immigrated Hispanics in the US? That 1,000,000 more LEGAL Hispanic immigrants will come this year?
You can speak your piece all you want, no matter how racist. That's what being American is about. But speaking up and advocation violence towards an entire nationality or race is gonna get me speaking up, as well. And if you say things that aren't true, you can expect other people to speak up and say so.
Disagreeing and arguing with you isn't an infringement upon your freedom of speech. It's the exercise of mine.
All these wonderful mexicans who are slowly destroying our country with each passing day. What a joy it is to read your post with all the numbers you provide to make us all feel badly because we just don't agree with you. Sadly, we have seen both the good sides and the bad. There is just more bad to the story and good. and while I support legal immagration...even these vile low life scumbags, I still wonder why I can't get one Chinese woman into this contry even though I have done everything within my power to obey each and every law. I have jumped through each hoop, filed out every form and paid every friggin' fee asked of me....not to mention, waiting 3 years with no sucess. You're darn right I'm sick of and really hate this infestation you seem so much in support of. Come to me when American citizens can be treated fairly. Until then, you are intitiled to your opion on the subject, and so am I. It's unfair for you to continuely be bringing up the race card when you, personally, have not had your house hold affected by this problem. When they want to obey the law, and Americans are treated equally, then...maybe, i'll have a little sympathy. Until then, they are criminals and I remind you, some nations would be shooting them like the cock roaches they are!:full:
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No no, its racism, its got nothing to do with diversity.
Where you been 'cuz?
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Talking C'mon...I know you see what's going on...otherwise, the thread would have been locked

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its so hard to moderate this room, its like the wild west,every one has thier 44 s out blazing, blood in the gutters dang guys, thats what I like about you guys no prisoners no holds barred. out in the street blazing away
:nod: let those who dissent get on thier moral high horse. It's something they "need" to do. Even I understand...and you know I am a bad, bad boy!:ballons:
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Talking Well, I think that's fair....

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I've seen some really cute little Mexican girls, though.
Can we keep the really cute Mexican girls? Please? If we gotta hate the Mexicans and deport or kill them, can we at least keep the really cute chicks?

But, when they get older, send them back. Mexican woman get ugly when they age and i don't think we need that. I kinda like burritos and tacos too. maybe we coud keep a few just to serve us.:jaw: :nod:


Just kidding, I like nice looking girls. Just
don't care much for mexicans.:joker:

no, sorry, bad choice of words, just kidding,
folks. :lucky:
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Old 02-23-2006, 08:17 AM   #35
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I am sorry that I started this thread while in an Ill mood. I am an animal lover and this illegal alien killed 6 dogs because he is a souless monster. I really don't hate our southern neighbors ,but I still don't want them here. I place the problem of aliens #1 on things to do when Bush gets out of the White House. He refuses to enact any legislation or to militarize the border.
I can see now that Bush is President not because he woke up one day and said aloud" I want to be in charge" ,but some powerful lobby group said "Hey GW we need you to be in charge". Theres a difference and its showing up in all these scandals surrounding him.

Well put. I can honestly say that he surprised me! I never would have thought he was such a traitor to us all. Remember, he has "dissed" the two groups who have supported hima nd the entire republican party! I'm refering, of course, to the religious right and the gun owners. We are all just sick of him and this mess with the ports will ultimatly ruin the republican party if they fail to reign him in. he's just the prez, not a king.
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How in Christ would you know whether my household has been affected one way or another by illegal immigration?
Me bring out the race card? You do it when you call them "vile lowlife scumbags", "cockroaches" and advocate violence towards Mexicans. Don't blame me for calling a spade a spade. You and certain others here are outright racists. Sorry, you guys keep saying this stuff, not me.
I like how you see someone with a rational, well thought out response as being on a "moral high horse" while somehow repetitive, one-sided and largely untrue rants seem to be convincing arguments to you.
A man who only wants to hear what he agrees with is just a man talking to himself.
By the way, a US born or naturalized Hispanic IS an American citizen.
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lighten up, dude. no need to blow a gasquet. like I said, you are entitled to your opinion and so am I. I don't want you to be angry at me because I don't see things like you do. I'm not angry at you for disagreeing and, like you, i gave you afew reasons why I feel as i do and i made several quailifying remarks like I have no problem with those who follow the rules. not good enough for you? Too bad. Let's agree to disagree and leave it that way. try to lighten up, is a disagreement worht your anger? and since you want to imagine words not used, how do you get racist out of low life scum bag? Nor did I suggest your life has been affected by this. and, for your information, the "S" work (like the shovel) IS racist talk. you are the one calling people racists and your childish attempts to make yourself appear other than what you are will only result in this thread getting locked. And, further more, at no point have i said a nationalized or US boen hispanic was not a citizen. Where do you get all this stuff. Take your meds and relax.
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You really don't consider or recall what you write, do you? Or thoroughly read what is written in response.
You say all the despicable things you say and then tell ME to relax. That's rich. Reread the title of this thread and tell me exactly why I should relax.

And "calling a spade a spade" is the English mis-translation of an ancient Greek saying "calling a trough a trough". The Greek word for trough is close to the word for digging tool and Erasmus mistranslated it. It doesn't have a racial connotation.
Using the word spade in relation to a black person derives from "black as the ace of spades" refering to the playing card.
I'm not surprised you picked that out as a racial slur.
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i was only trying to make a point. I appoligize for makeing you anrgy. I am sorry you are annoyed. but, this is the "powder keg". Please, let's not make more of this than it really is. Once again, i apoligize.
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I'm not angry or annoyed. Nor do you need to apologize to me. I'm arguing my point. Which is what one does when they disagree with an assertion made.
We're discussing a fundamental issue. The difference between wanting to do something about illegal immigration and hating an entire race or nationality or advocating racially motivated violence. It is an important discussion, not light chit-chat. Saying "let's not make more of this than it really is" is a strange way to dis-engage from an important discussion.
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