Teen arrested for PICTURE of him with guns

[Mr. Pink]

I'm 14 and got sent to the counsellor's (with a letter home) for talking about skeet shooting with my 870 wingmaster in science class.

Good thing my parents are quite sensible, and could smell the BS from a mile away. 'Cept my mum. She's a hippie.

[Mr. Pink]

Originally Posted by Shaun

No I can surround myself with over 100 and 10's of thousands of rounds and caption the photo with anything and its not a threat. You sound exactly like some of the idiots I worked with who thought I was a threat because I am a responsible collector, hunter and target shooter who is proud of my accomplishments.

There's a difference between hunting and target shooting, and surrounding yourself with guns and calling yourself the angel of death.

ANGEL OF DEATH

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

Originally Posted by Trey45

So now I'm a nazi because I think this kid has mental issues, weird forum you have here.......

Who called you a NAZI....?


First of all the kid does have issues, but no more than other kids running around with their pants down wearing bandanas and singing "bust the POPO"..... The kid desires or needs attention, which he obviously isn't getting. His parents have obviously failed in their instruction of gun safety if he believes this is "COOL" behavior, that and he is in need of a serious talking too.

The kid did nothing wrong except if he did this on school property. When is it considered a legal action because the kid personifies himself as a bad!!!!! wannabe? If this is the case I would say we need some law intervention for about half our military.... ever see some of the patches they use to personify their units? "Air Assault - Death from Above" Many of what has been said on this forum could be considered worse and more threatening that what this kid has done.....

Over reaction and ignorance is all I see here.

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

Originally Posted by WetKnife

Tack this up to extremely violent video games and a Hollywood out of control. This kid is a victim of trying to be like Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. My guess is the arrest is going to be overturned and his record expunged after carefull review. This kid just is immature and thinks he needs to emmulate what Hollywood considers cool and manly. Best thing is his parents and him get counciling.

BINGO!!!!! The kid didn't get this idea himself... he has seen this attitude somewhere else.

[Shaun]

Very true maybe every rapper needs to go to jail for preaching how they want all cops dead and other gang bangers dead

[Mooseman684]

Wow , this really got interesting while I was at work. I remember when I was a Kid and did stuff that Today, would put me in Federal prison now that times have changed and everybody is Paranoid as heck. I Got Older and took pictures of 3 beautiful women holding my guns, an UZI, An AK, and My Chrome plated 12ga. riot gun, and they were "My Deadly Angels" and I still have that photo, It was done as a Joke !Sure, it never got posted on the Net, because there was no "NET" at the time. Kids will do Kid stuff, But I draw the Line at someone being arrested before they break the law by doing something silly in a picture, Period. Especially when it is done in a persons Home that is supposed to be their Castle! Where do we draw the line ? The Law is supposed to be..."IF there is NO INTENT to commit a CRIME, Then, THERE IS NO CRIME ! I for one am NOT giving up my RIGHTS because of Speculation that I might commit a Crime.

[troy2000]

Whether arresting the teenager was the proper response is a reasonable question. But to not even have anyone check into the circumstances and his mental/emotional status would be negligent.

If he's just goofing, someone can tell him he was an idiot and go on about their business. If not, some lives might be saved.

What's hard about that? If one of the kids who hang with my sons posted something like that and I found it, I'd talk to him in a heartbeat. If I decided there was no problem, it would end there. But if I didn't like what I heard and saw, I'd work my way up through his parents, the school system, the local law enforcement agencies, or whatever it took to satisfy me that no one was going to die.

[troylaplante]

Originally Posted by Trey45

A CHILD posing as the angel of death on wings of lead with 9 firearms should alarm any responsible person, especially now days when kids see human life as worthless.

He may be a bit disturbed, but is that worthy or being arrested for a picture (he may have had adult supervision, we don't know, at least according to the article)? Also, suspended from school? What does a pic on a web site have to do with school? The picture and guns were not on school grounds. This is just baffling.

[7mmag6]

im watching you 2

[7mmag6]

Originally Posted by 7mmag6

im watching you 2

so be carefull

[alraicer]

The kid needes help, the school ****ed up by getting him arrested and all that BS in a kneejerk reaction. What they should of done is pull the kid out of some class that isn't vital and sit him in front of a shrink, while they put his parents in front of a different shrink and figure out what the !!!! to do with the little punk.

[troy2000]

That would make more sense than what they did, I agree.

[lefty o]

agreed, a good talking to would have been appropriate given the circumstances that we know. handcuffs were not required. heck, if the kid wasnt already messed up he may be now- thank you tree huggin' liberals.

[Mooseman684]

Originally Posted by alraicer

The kid needes help, the school ****ed up by getting him arrested and all that BS in a kneejerk reaction. What they should of done is pull the kid out of some class that isn't vital and sit him in front of a shrink, while they put his parents in front of a different shrink and figure out what the !!!! to do with the little punk.

I don't understand Needing a Shrink...If you express yourself, or you want to make a statement or you do a picture that comes to mind and it is controversial, Then a person should go see some Educated idiot to talk to ???They cost as much as Lawyers do I've Heard. What are we paying school counselors for ? Has Law Enforcement turned into the business of arrest em all, let a judge or jury sort it out ?
If we find out the Kid plans to become a Marine Sniper in a couple of Years to serve this Country as One Of Americas Finest , and This was a Patriotic picture, How do you respond then ? If everyone else can speculate, I want to speculate for the best, Not the worst. I was 16 when I bought my first rifle and Hid it from my folks, But I wanted to hunt,and I did. I am more concerned with how this was handled by the school and Law Enforcement
without a proper investigation and Civil Rights Violations that may have occurred as well. It can affect us all and our freedoms as well.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I don't understand Needing a Shrink...If you express yourself, or you want to make a statement or you do a picture that comes to mind and it is controversial, Then a person should go see some Educated idiot to talk to ???They cost as much as Lawyers do I've Heard. What are we paying school counselors for ? Has Law Enforcement turned into the business of arrest em all, let a judge or jury sort it out ?
If we find out the Kid plans to become a Marine Sniper in a couple of Years to serve this Country as One Of Americas Finest , and This was a Patriotic picture, How do you respond then ? If everyone else can speculate, I want to speculate for the best, Not the worst. I was 16 when I bought my first rifle and Hid it from my folks, But I wanted to hunt,and I did. I am more concerned with how this was handled by the school and Law Enforcement
without a proper investigation and Civil Rights Violations that may have occurred as well. It can affect us all and our freedoms as well.

I agree Mooseman every one automatically wants people to go see a legal drug dealer claiming everyone needs to talk to someone it's bunk. All that needs to happen is the parents ask about it and if its nothing then don;'t bother the school is just as guilty for this abuse of power as everyone else in this case he never threatened a single person.

[Outriderdark]

I agree with troy2000.
Whomever saw the posting should've gone to his parents to see if there was a problem.
I think it's symptomatic of how everyone goes running to the government these days to deal with everything.
And like I said before, this kids gonna be stuck with an FBI file forever now.

[Shaun]

the issue is that there is no reason for an FBI file what he did was not a crime and he did not cross state lines committing a crime so that means that the FBI would violate his rights by creating a file.

[Outriderdark]

Originally Posted by Shaun

the issue is that there is no reason for an FBI file what he did was not a crime and he did not cross state lines committing a crime so that means that the FBI would violate his rights by creating a file.

I agree but any kind of arrest for something like this is going to get you a file. So every time he goes for a NICS check it'll be delayed or if he decides to go into LE or something it'll show up. Once the FBI creates a file, even if you're aquitted or the charges dropped, it'll keep popping up.
A guy I know was arrested for his powder stash because an idiot called the cops to say he had explosives. He's an avid reloader and his kid was talking about powder around another kid who told his mother who called the cops. It was all dropped within a few days but it still pops up when he goes through a NICS check.

[Shaun]

That is why I think the parents need to make an example of this and they need to sue everyone involved in this false arrest for millions this would even include the school

[Mooseman684]

Actually, since they arrested him as a Juvenile, his record will be sealed at 18, but he probably couldn't get a security clearance now for a govt job. Juvenile records are not supposed to be used against adulthood.UNLESS they charge him as an adult!