Mississippi Set to ban Abortion

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-06-2006, 09:08 PM

Outrider,

I find it interesting that I will be able to watch as something this controversial and this huge will be placed before a so called conservatively leaning supreme court in order to overturn an established law. Regardless of anyone's views on the subject, this is something that doesn't come along often and as some have said I think it could have some consequences for the republican party that they may not have considered.

I saw another article on an abortion study but I have decided that I wouldn't post it.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-06-2006, 09:13 PM

Well he did it. Rounds Signed It!

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060306/D8G6CE802.html

troy2000 · 03-06-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

Outrider,
I find it interesting that I will be able to watch as something this controversial and this huge will be placed before a so called conservatively leaning supreme court in order to overturn an established law. Regardless of anyone's views on the subject, this is something that doesn't come along often and as some have said I think it could have some consequences for the republican party that they may not have considered.
I saw another article on an abortion study but I have decided that I wouldn't post it.

you usually come up with stuff I enjoy reading. Would you mind PM'ing it to me?

troy2000 · 03-06-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

Well he did it. Rounds Signed It!
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060306/D8G6CE802.html

I read somewhere a while back that the bill's supporters had pulled a referendum because they weren't sure it would pass, and opted for legislative action instead.

Anyone know anything about that?

Outriderdark · 03-06-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

Outrider,
I find it interesting that I will be able to watch as something this controversial and this huge will be placed before a so called conservatively leaning supreme court in order to overturn an established law. Regardless of anyone's views on the subject, this is something that doesn't come along often and as some have said I think it could have some consequences for the republican party that they may not have considered.
I saw another article on an abortion study but I have decided that I wouldn't post it.

That was me. I said if they succeded in overturning Roe, it would mobilized the liberal base.
I find it interesting as well.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-06-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Outriderdark

That was me.

Yeah I remember someone saying that also. It will be interesting nontheless regardless of outcome.

Two questions on my mind.

What happens if the conservatives on the bench don't vote unanimously to overturn? Remember Robert's claimed it to be "Settled" law as far as he's concerned.

What happens if they do overturn. What other legislation do you think the Ultra Christian Right will try to pursue in the name of God.

Outriderdark · 03-06-2006, 09:58 PM

I think they will try for an Amendment on both sides of the issue.
Other than that it's hard to say because both sides would be without a focus for awhile.
A total legislative ban would never last if that's what they tried.
Of course, a federal ban may in turn be stopped by the Court on more solid ground than Roe was. The problem with Roe has always been that it's such a contrived and poorly grounded case.

troylaplante · 03-06-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

What happens if they do overturn. What other legislation do you think the Ultra Christian Right will try to pursue in the name of God.

Roe vs. Wade is not legislation, nor would be its demise. The "Christian Right" is not always so, but in their collective opinion of Roe vs. Wade, they (along with a majority of Americans) are "right".

Considering that the left has pursued overturning legislation or, more appropriately stated, attempting to create legislation from the bench, "right" pursuit would not necessarily be a bad thing.

Outriderdark · 03-06-2006, 10:00 PM

huh?

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-06-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Outriderdark

The problem with Roe has always been that it's such a contrived and poorly grounded case.

I have heard this. From what I remember legal fraud was commited? Why noone was ever held to the fire for it is beyond me.

troylaplante · 03-06-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

Or at least I am. And twenty one posts ago laplante (potted?) said, and I quote, "That is all I need to and will say."
Will someone please hold him to it?

Hhhhhmmmm, look and see who is the ruffled one. :nod:

SPOCAHP ANAR · 03-06-2006, 10:03 PM

:flame:
Whoo its getting hot in here.

troy2000 · 03-06-2006, 11:44 PM

I still believe that if Roe vs Wade is overturned, the Republican Party will lose an essential part of its "guns, gays and God" strategy. For that and other reasons, I'm not sure they really want it killed; they'd rather keep torturing it.

I also think the two state bills are a piece of political grandstanding, and that it may backfire on them like the Terry Schiavo hullaballoo did.

troy2000 · 03-07-2006, 12:35 AM

As opposed to the right and wrong of abortion.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ion-side_x.htm

Their numbers concerning Roe vs Wade are extraordinarily different from the 52-47 percent figures in the Zogby poll discussed earlier in this thread. I'd have to see exactly what questions were asked, and in what order, before I'd know which to believe:

"Two-thirds in a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll in January said they did not want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, compared with 25% who said they did."

iflylow74 · 03-07-2006, 09:53 AM

I hate polls because anyone can make a poll turn out anyway that they want just by the way it is worded or the group that is polled.

03-06-2006, 09:08 PM	#61
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,192 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	Outrider, I find it interesting that I will be able to watch as something this controversial and this huge will be placed before a so called conservatively leaning supreme court in order to overturn an established law. Regardless of anyone's views on the subject, this is something that doesn't come along often and as some have said I think it could have some consequences for the republican party that they may not have considered. I saw another article on an abortion study but I have decided that I wouldn't post it. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

03-06-2006, 09:13 PM	#62
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,192 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	It is Officially started! Well he did it. Rounds Signed It! http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060306/D8G6CE802.html __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

03-06-2006, 09:58 PM	#67
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	I think they will try for an Amendment on both sides of the issue. Other than that it's hard to say because both sides would be without a focus for awhile. A total legislative ban would never last if that's what they tried. Of course, a federal ban may in turn be stopped by the Court on more solid ground than Roe was. The problem with Roe has always been that it's such a contrived and poorly grounded case. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

03-06-2006, 10:00 PM	#69
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	huh? __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

03-06-2006, 10:03 PM	#72
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,192 Images: 1 Blog Entries: 6	:flame: Whoo its getting hot in here. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

03-06-2006, 11:44 PM	#73
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,017 Images: 9	I still believe that if Roe vs Wade is overturned, the Republican Party will lose an essential part of its "guns, gays and God" strategy. For that and other reasons, I'm not sure they really want it killed; they'd rather keep torturing it. I also think the two state bills are a piece of political grandstanding, and that it may backfire on them like the Terry Schiavo hullaballoo did.

03-07-2006, 12:35 AM	#74
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 10,017 Images: 9	More on the political implications, from USA Today As opposed to the right and wrong of abortion. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ion-side_x.htm Their numbers concerning Roe vs Wade are extraordinarily different from the 52-47 percent figures in the Zogby poll discussed earlier in this thread. I'd have to see exactly what questions were asked, and in what order, before I'd know which to believe: "Two-thirds in a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll in January said they did not want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, compared with 25% who said they did." Last edited by troy2000; 03-07-2006 at 12:43 AM.

03-07-2006, 09:53 AM	#75
iflylow74 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bizzaroworld Posts: 1,065 Blog Entries: 11	I hate polls because anyone can make a poll turn out anyway that they want just by the way it is worded or the group that is polled. __________________ Just because you can't win doesn't mean you shouldn't fight.