[bigandrich44]

I would love to see a rig that could shoot 2 inches at 800 yards.*assuming the shooter is VERY good* I will eat my words if I'm proved wrong.

[tbonecpk]

well give me enough practice and sure thing gota find me a range and a rifle to do it with lol

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by billy

i am mutating into a bench shooter and my idea of accurate is changing also. i want those groups tiny!

Ive got a couple of nice rifles. not top drawer but good ones.and it is quite difficult to consistently get small groups.
about once out of every three or four trips to the range i will get a group i am proud of. a good group to me with a .22 is well under 1/4 in. @ 25meters 5 shots

are they accurate? oh yeah.... are they competitive? nope!

[ezearln]

a 1/4 inch clover leaf at 25 yards is a sweet lil group Billy

[billy]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ezearln

a 1/4 inch clover leaf at 25 yards is a sweet lil group Billy

yep and it wont win a match!

[ezearln]

Thats the truth, but I'm not competing anymore and I want meat in the pot so I'll settle fro 1/4 inch groups at 25 yards thank you. I no longer feel the intense need to impress anyone so What the heck!

[billy]

.139 in. @25 yds.



10 shot group @25



50 yds. this one did win!

Quote:       Originally Posted by ezearln

Thats the truth, but I'm not competing anymore and I want meat in the pot so I'll settle fro 1/4 inch groups at 25 yards thank you. I no longer feel the intense need to impress anyone so What the heck!

if i could afford it and didnt have to work everyday you bet i would compete in B.R.! but its a money race. a fair amount of skill and a boatload of $$$$$!

[A-10]

As long as the weapon can shoot better than I can.

[Full MeTal Jack]

Bill T, ever think about getting that Ruger's action epoxy bedded?
Secondly, Generally, the first shot out of a cold barrel will hit the same spot.

I'm bedding a Remington 721 30-06. I have before pics of groupings. I didnt like the way the group "walked" so I bedded the rifle.
After bedding it I could even hit paper. Looking down the bore and scope, it was high at 2:00. Had to put it down. Will get back to it. Will post the after pics when it's back on.

Positioning. Try to keep body, arms, trigger finger position, chipmonk cheek on the stock.
Breathing makes a big difference in groups. I see folks hold there breath. WRONG! The longer you hold your breath, the more intense one's heart beats. Keep breathing.........slowly. Inhale, sights up. Exhale. sights down. Pause to take the shot. Do the same for each shot.
I see people on a bench rest hold the forestock even though it rested. AHHH! Bring that left arm around the right elbow. (sorta)
Flinching! A BiG ProbLeM!
Also, I see these boys sighting in rifles using Full Power of their scopes. Not nessessary. 4 to 6 power will do.
Heart beat. Yep! it can affect your shot.
OH yeah, one more. Natural point of aim. That is when you get a site picture then close your eyes for 15 seconds letting your body find it's natural postion. Open your eyes. Are you still on target? If not? Reposition yourself and repeat close/open your eyes until the sight pic has not moved from your target.
Like Tbone, I'm a competitive shooter also. NRA Sharpshooter classification. I'm trying to learn form the Masters. I'm just happy to have all 20 scoring hits from 600 yards open sights in the prone position.
Pratice with the 22. it's cheaper

[billy]

fmj, thats an old target i have since pillar bedded the ruger.
thanks for the tips!

[time of flight]

It's all about what you do with that rifle for me i have different needs for my rifles in my varmint rifle it has to shoot 0.5" for 5 shots.
For a carry rifle in say 270,308,338 class 3 shot groups of 1.5 @100 would be ample.
no need for five shot groups in a hunting rifle if you are firing five shots at game the guns accuracy isn't the problem it's the shooter.

my Roo shooting rifle in 222rem with sporter barrel will shoot 1" five shots groups @ 100m all day & night out of the truck window while the trucks running now there no way i can shoot 1" groups out of the window every time but knowing that the rifle will shoot like that is a real confidence booster.confidence is the key to all shooting be it rifle,pistol,shotgun

[Midas]

Quote:       Originally Posted by time of flight

It's all about what you do with that rifle for me i have different needs for my rifles in my varmint rifle it has to shoot 0.5" for 5 shots. For a carry rifle in say 270,308,338 class 3 shot groups of 1.5 @100 would be ample. no need for five shot groups in a hunting rifle if you are firing five shots at game the guns accuracy isn't the problem it's the shooter. my Roo shooting rifle in 222rem with sporter barrel will shoot 1" five shots groups @ 100m all day & night out of the truck window while the trucks running now there no way i can shoot 1" groups out of the window every time but knowing that the rifle will shoot like that is a real confidence booster.confidence is the key to all shooting be it rifle,pistol,shotgun

Well said

[tbonecpk]

yup I will agree with that. Me being a paper puncher I kinda like the insane accuracy

[ezearln]

Well as I punch paper and plink old soda cans off fence rails and try to put a lil meat in the pot now and again accuracy is important but for me anymore the only thing I remain intense about is maintaining my combat marksmanship skills, more with my sidearm than anything else. I know what I am capable of and try to maintain both the speed and accuracy in my drills.

[tbonecpk]

sounds good and frankly a lot of the different styles of shooting I am really interested in

[utahvarminter]

Accuracy depends on many factors-

The Person. How steady can you hold the gun? Do you jerk the trigger? How good is your eye sight?
The Ammo. Consistency - are all the rounds the same load, weight, and size?
The Gun. Is it fit together tightly enough to allow for the chambering every time? Is it clean? How hot is the barrel?
The Sighting Apparatus. Does the Scope shift during recoil? Do the Iron sights stay in the exact same place after a long time?
The Area. Are you shooting up hill? Down hill? Is it windy? Is it more/less humid where you are than where you sighted it in?

[ojjr]

As has been said ,accuracy to many people is many things, but,as I know the rifle on the left will put the first three shots under an inch at 200yrds on a good day and so can I, then that gives me the confidence to take the longer shot.Same as my regular hunting rifles, I expect to be able to put 3 shots into an inch at 100 with the 243 and the 280 on the range, so translated into a field hunting situation If I miss from 0 to 250yrds I Know it was me not the rifle.
Confidence in your equipment does great things for your field shooting.
Thats why I use handloads and like tight groups.

[Doctor Larry K]

I have heard the term "minute of angle" many times but I don't know what it means or how to measure it. Can someone enlighten me on this term.

Thanks

Doc

[Lng Rng]

MOA is equal to one inch at 100 yards, 2 inches at 200, and so on.