[toolman]

Quote:       Originally Posted by troy2000

because I like beer.:cheer: I can definitely be cantankerous. And I'm working on getting old; I turned 57 last week. But I dunno about the last one: can you qualify as a geezer if you still have your hair and your teeth?

You probably have more of both than I do and I'm only 41! :cheer:

[Dennis]

I think the biggest accomplishment that George Bush has done is to unify all The AntiAmerican Americans with all the Anti American Enemys we have across the globe,....oh wait I dont think he had anything to do with that...
Mebbe they did it themselves?
See the difference between the Republicans opposing Clinton and the Democrats opposing Bush is that The Republicans would never Dream of undermining our nation at this time of war, Sideing with the enemy, The republicans would NEVER become stooges for Islamic fachists just to try to regain power.
The democRATS Have, and they Will continue to subvert everything to try to get back in to power.

See It is POWER that the liberals want, and they still think that we,... uh,... havent noticed.....
The War in Iraq would be long over if it where not for the support the enemy has recieved from liberal democrat Americans.
THAT support is What is lifting their spirits and spurring them on to continue their suicide attacks and car bombings.

If ya didnt know..........

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Dennis

I think the biggest accomplishment that George Bush has done is to unify all The AntiAmerican Americans with all the Anti American Enemys we have across the globe,....oh wait I dont think he had anything to do with that... Mebbe they did it themselves? See the difference between the Republicans opposing Clinton and the Democrats opposing Bush is that The Republicans would never Dream of undermining our nation at this time of war, Sideing with the enemy, The republicans would NEVER become stooges for Islamic fachists just to try to regain power. The democRATS Have, and they Will continue to subvert everything to try to get back in to power. See It is POWER that the liberals want, and they still think that we,... uh,... havent noticed..... The War in Iraq would be long over if it where not for the support the enemy has recieved from liberal democrat Americans. THAT support is What is lifting their spirits and spurring them on to continue their suicide attacks and car bombings. If ya didnt know..........

You just called about half the politicians and voters in the United States traitors, Dennis. Are you going to to stand by that statement? It's a little different from just saying they're wrong.

Wild claims that the war in Iraq would be "long over" if it weren't for liberals and Democrats supporting the enemy are simpleminded, false, and insulting to the principles of freedom and democracy this country was founded upon.

I get a little tired of people telling me that I hate my country. And I also get tired of people who claim to love this country, while they're busy hating everyone and everything in it.

If this be treason, make the most of it.

[Dennis]

Ok, Troy Ok I guess I had My dander up a little bit but Gad Dang it we need to WIN THE WAR
and protesting the war effort is helping the enemy...
THAT is why our children are doomed to a horrific cataclismic world war in the up comeing years.
Our Disunity is going to be our undoing.
It is kinda plain and simple.
The Dems are never going to win and neither will the repubs

Untill it becomes completly unacceptable here to oppose our common purpose "they" will continue to fight.
The Term "loyal opposition" is ringing more and more hollow.
in other words
the country is comeing apart.

The anti gun, anti rights, anti (fill in the blank) are keeping us as a nation from being effective in fighting our enemys.
See, if we Quit Iraq and Quite fighting the Terrorist chitheads over there,
They WILL come back over here and kill more of out people AGAIN.
We must CONQUER THEM and we are not able to because so many pie in the sky types have somehow forgotten how important it is to be unified.
The WAR is just beginning. and we are allready tuckered out.
eventually we will be forced to submit to the tyranny of a sandaled foot on the back of our necks
Or we will have to eliminate them ALL.
I know it will not be as bad as I "think" it will be.
But ya notice how deafiningly quiet the muslim war protesters are?
How many muslims are marching in protest AGAINST the 9-11 attacks?
Against the car bombings against the suicide bombers, I seem to remember quite clearly how 9-11 became a big Holiday over there with danceing in the streets...

THEY are unified
We are NOT

THEY give a !!!! about their people
WE do not

THEY will not tolerate insults
We heap then upon ourselves

Troy make a small sign that says Muslims are pig Feckers and put it in your car and go drive around and see how long it takes before someone says or does anything to you.
Even here in America.
But it is "ok" to hate white American men.

I know I know Pointing out the obvious is not offering a solution.
the solution is to stop fighting among ourselves and start fighting the enemy.
Our enemy is ISLAM
They dont want to admit it
But that is the Truth my friend.
We have got another Reliegious World War going
We did not start it
But we have GOT to start fighting it, as one people as one nation, under God Indivisible.
But we are no longer indivisable are we Troy.
our biggest division is weather we have anything important enough to fight over.
so,
Troy, Would you fight, shoot, kill, a man that as invading my house?
Attacking my family?
taking my stuff?

That is the basic Question isnt it.
Would You fight, and or Die for your countrymen?

Will we as people follow our leader in time of war?
Many have not
many dont think there is anything worth fighting for.
See, Iraq is just a battle, the War is still very much in its beginning phases.
eventually we will be forced to take control of the entire middle east.
or
THOSE people will control the world.
that is their Stated Goal.
Kinda like the crusades all over again.
only we are fighting for our security in our country not some holy site.

No one believes in anything like that, at all any more.
We Require a secure Energy supply
it is basic for our economy and for world society.
but no one wants to look at it like that.

Thats ok Troy the enemy doesnt care how you choose to See the situation.
they will kill you all the same.

We are in this up to our necks, and only half is interested in swimming, the others are complaining about the swimmers.

[Rave]

Reba said on the 41st CMT that the Dixie Chicks can do something most can't,sing with their foot in their mouth.:lucky:

[Dallas]

I saw them on Larry King the other night I only watch for a while I got disgusted they still don't think they did anything wrong.

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Dennis

Ok, Troy Ok I guess I had My dander up a little bit but Gad Dang it we need to WIN THE WAR and protesting the war effort is helping the enemy... THAT is why our children are doomed to a horrific cataclismic world war in the up comeing years. Our Disunity is going to be our undoing. It is kinda plain and simple. The Dems are never going to win and neither will the repubs Untill it becomes completly unacceptable here to oppose our common purpose "they" will continue to fight. The Term "loyal opposition" is ringing more and more hollow. in other words the country is comeing apart. The anti gun, anti rights, anti (fill in the blank) are keeping us as a nation from being effective in fighting our enemys. See, if we Quit Iraq and Quite fighting the Terrorist chitheads over there, They WILL come back over here and kill more of out people AGAIN. We must CONQUER THEM and we are not able to because so many pie in the sky types have somehow forgotten how important it is to be unified. The WAR is just beginning. and we are allready tuckered out. eventually we will be forced to submit to the tyranny of a sandaled foot on the back of our necks Or we will have to eliminate them ALL. I know it will not be as bad as I "think" it will be. But ya notice how deafiningly quiet the muslim war protesters are? How many muslims are marching in protest AGAINST the 9-11 attacks? Against the car bombings against the suicide bombers, I seem to remember quite clearly how 9-11 became a big Holiday over there with danceing in the streets... THEY are unified We are NOT THEY give a !!!! about their people WE do not THEY will not tolerate insults We heap then upon ourselves Troy make a small sign that says Muslims are pig Feckers and put it in your car and go drive around and see how long it takes before someone says or does anything to you. Even here in America. But it is "ok" to hate white American men. I know I know Pointing out the obvious is not offering a solution. the solution is to stop fighting among ourselves and start fighting the enemy. Our enemy is ISLAM They dont want to admit it But that is the Truth my friend. We have got another Reliegious World War going We did not start it But we have GOT to start fighting it, as one people as one nation, under God Indivisible. But we are no longer indivisable are we Troy. our biggest division is weather we have anything important enough to fight over. so, Troy, Would you fight, shoot, kill, a man that as invading my house? Attacking my family? taking my stuff? That is the basic Question isnt it. Would You fight, and or Die for your countrymen? Will we as people follow our leader in time of war? Many have not many dont think there is anything worth fighting for. See, Iraq is just a battle, the War is still very much in its beginning phases. eventually we will be forced to take control of the entire middle east. or THOSE people will control the world. that is their Stated Goal. Kinda like the crusades all over again. only we are fighting for our security in our country not some holy site. No one believes in anything like that, at all any more. We Require a secure Energy supply it is basic for our economy and for world society. but no one wants to look at it like that. Thats ok Troy the enemy doesnt care how you choose to See the situation. they will kill you all the same. We are in this up to our necks, and only half is interested in swimming, the others are complaining about the swimmers.

They think we can only endulge ourselves in such things when it's safe to do so. But there is no safety.

They think we all have to give up our freedom of speech until we've defeated the Islamic terrorists, along with our freedom from unreasonable search and seizure and all the other rights enumerated in the Constitution.

But before the terrorists there were the Communists. Before them were Fascists and Nazis. If you go back before WWI, people wanted us to give up our rights in the name of fighting Anarchists, Separatists and whatever. "Just until the danger's over, you know." But the danger never ends, and there is no safety.

There never has been and there never will be. If we wait until it's safe to exercise our rights as free American citizens, we'll still be waiting when the Sun implodes.

Some people don't understand that we've survived two hundred-plus years of everything the world could throw at us because of our rights and our freedoms, not in spite of them.

We haven't survived because we followed like sheep no matter how stupid our leaders were. We've survived because we've argued it out until we got the right answers, even though sometimes they were late arriving.

"Troy, Would you fight, shoot, kill, a man that as invading my house?
Attacking my family?
taking my stuff?
That is the basic Question isnt it.
Would You fight, and or Die for your countrymen?"

Excuse me? I'm sorry, but I'm all booked up this month for tours of my DD214, and the scar-counting excursion across my body is also sold out. Perhaps some other time?

[Rufus Rhastus J]

I like Dennis. His ideas ain't all that far off base......if'n you ask me. nobody is perfect, the repubs have screwed up thier chances for retaining the white house and they will, no doubt lose elsewhere. Nobody's fault but, thier own. As to the war, well, why aren't we done there? simple, we didn't have the stones to do what needs to be done........crush those camel molesting swine under the tracs of out tanks!

[Rave]

If he never does another thing and dies tomorrow Bin Ladin has won.He accomplished what no other enemy has,although Nakita Kruschev came close when he said we would bury ourselves.
Thanks to Bin Ladins one Pearl Harbor attack we are now self destructing.
It is amazing to me how little it took after we survived so much in the past. Maybe it is just that time for us,but I can't believe how low we have gone so easily.

[troy2000]

Obviously, most of you aren't old enough to clearly remember the 'sixties, Watergate and the anti-Vietnam War movement. Or maybe some of you are too old to remember anything clearly.

Compared to what was happening then, what we're going through now isn't even a tempest in a teapot or a f---- in a windstorm.

[Rave]

It appears to me that this is a case of history repeating it self,only on a larger scale,gummint is stronger now and the civillian population is more cowed than back in the sixties and seventys.
Tha current situation is costing more in money than lives at this time,however that can change.
So far we have been picking our fights with countries we know we can beat militarily,although we are finding out that winning a war and invading and occupieing a country are two different things,too bad we couldn't have learned that from history,but you know the old saw about hind-sight.:lucky:

[Pred]

I for one actually like the new song they have out, but I hate the Dixie Chicks. I could care less about what they said about bush, the man is an idiot and should have been impeached a long time ago. Bush is destroying this country and everything, every man and women for the past 230 years, has fought and died for. He's a traitor, and everything he does is for the good for himself and his oil buddies. The war he got us into will not be "won" for a few years. Our government has no intentions of allowing the US to win in Iraq. They know a war with Iran and Syria is next(why you ask, for oil), so they keep as many soldiers over there as they can. If the US wanted to we could run through Iraq in about 2 weeks, so why haven't we? Bush is slowly stripping everyone in this country of their rights will crap like the patriot act, homeland security and now with the nsa.

[NRAJOE]

The "Dipsy Chimps" can eat the peanuts outta my fecal matter...

[Rave]

Well put there Joe!:lucky:

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Pred

I for one actually like the new song they have out, but I hate the Dixie Chicks. I could care less about what they said about bush, the man is an idiot and should have been impeached a long time ago. Bush is destroying this country and everything, every man and women for the past 230 years, has fought and died for. He's a traitor, and everything he does is for the good for himself and his oil buddies. The war he got us into will not be "won" for a few years. Our government has no intentions of allowing the US to win in Iraq. They know a war with Iran and Syria is next(why you ask, for oil), so they keep as many soldiers over there as they can. If the US wanted to we could run through Iraq in about 2 weeks, so why haven't we? Bush is slowly stripping everyone in this country of their rights will crap like the patriot act, homeland security and now with the nsa.

There is nothing I can add to your post. Well put! My sentiments, exactly!