.. with these MFer's getting fired, drawn, quartered and then left to bleed out.
Police torture in Knoxville TN
When Tennessee law enforcement officials showed up at the home of Lester Siler, who they suspected of drug use, they asked Lester's wife and son to leave. They didn't know that Lester's wife had turned on a tape recorder in the kitchen.
When Lester exercised his constitutional right not to sign a consent to search his house, these officers spent the next two hours torturing him. They beat him with bats and guns, held loaded guns to his head, threatened to shoot him, dunked his head in the toilet, burned him with lighters, attached his testicles to a battery charger, threatened to cut off his fingers, and threatened to "go get" his wife and take his child away from him. Then they arrested him for "evading arrest"."
Police torture in Knoxville TN
When Tennessee law enforcement officials showed up at the home of Lester Siler, who they suspected of drug use, they asked Lester's wife and son to leave. They didn't know that Lester's wife had turned on a tape recorder in the kitchen.
When Lester exercised his constitutional right not to sign a consent to search his house, these officers spent the next two hours torturing him. They beat him with bats and guns, held loaded guns to his head, threatened to shoot him, dunked his head in the toilet, burned him with lighters, attached his testicles to a battery charger, threatened to cut off his fingers, and threatened to "go get" his wife and take his child away from him. Then they arrested him for "evading arrest"."
Something doesn't sound right here. If this did happen, it would be all over the news. Police brutality is one of those things the media will jump on and ride into the ground(remember rodney king?). I've looked at a few websites, including a Knoxville newspaper, and see nothing of it. I don't know what that .mp3 link you posted is, doesn't work on my machine. Do you have any other sources?
Got the original from www.ogrish.com, pretty raunchy website, but once in awhile it has something like this.
I had no trouble with the mp3. Hope this isn't real also, but if it is, I don't give a fat rats arss what the guy did, torture should be dealt with in a real and serious way. If the deputies are in jail, then good, especially if they did do this. Heck, they should be in general population for what they did.
Something suggests the wrong person was investigated for drugs. Am I the only one here who, if they were in that situation, would believe, quite promptly, that these were not actually police officers and should be treated as violent criminals invading my home and threatening my life?
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Am I the only one here who, if they were in that situation, would believe, quite promptly, that these were not actually police officers and should be treated as violent criminals invading my home and threatening my life?
No; but not everyone is as freedom loving as you and I. Did you know in that situation you described that you would be prosecuted for murder of innocent police officers. The police have immunity to shoot if you hold a gun but you are expected to see a smal silver badge the size of an apple and not the 3-4 guys rushing in your door screaming.
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The police have immunity to shoot if you hold a gun but you are expected to see a smal silver badge the size of an apple and not the 3-4 guys rushing in your door screaming.
I think the opposite position has in certain cases been upheld in court, that the police acted improperly and that people responded justly in self defense. This has in some cases been the result of raiding the wrong houses.
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IT sounds to me like those guys were posing as police, but if they were in fact police officers it would be hard to shoot them and get away with self-defense. Even though they were acting how they were, it would be next to impossible to shoot a cop and get self-defense, it wouldn't happen. Out here in the desert and back woods the law enforcement act a little different knowing that they are not being watched over and that it would be their word against yours. I think of myself as a good person, I pay taxes, donate to charity, help anyone I can anytimed. You should have seen the things they have done to me.
See, thats what all those fancy pen size cameras and recorders are for.
You know what really needs to end, reading headlines like this:
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GARDEN GROVE, California (AP) -- A 1-year-old girl spent up to three days alone with the bloody bodies of her murdered family, her face kicked or beaten and lips cracked from dehydration, police said.
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Don't get me wrong, I am all for supporting the police and law-enforcement, but the good guys and gals. THe ones who will see that you are out of gas and give you a ride to the next station. THe ones who sacrifice their lives every day to protect American citizens. I am all for those people and my deepest apprecition to goes out to them. It is the ones who abuse their power and get away with things that normal people can't just because they are in the government. If I shot a lawyer in the face with a shotgun I would still be in jail. The police were not even called.
That's one reason I'm inclined to think such people aren't LE officers - because it's so unlike what I believe LE officers to be. LE that enforce the law within the law have my total support, respect, and cooperation.
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I think the opposite position has in certain cases been upheld in court, that the police acted improperly and that people responded justly in self defense. This has in some cases been the result of raiding the wrong houses.
I'm not a gombling man; but even I would put money on the table that your hind end would be in the pokie!
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That's just it - it isn't consistently held either way. You're absolutely right that it would be a gamble.
I'm thinking, hindsight being 20/20, that his wife could have called the police department and had someone put an end to it before they fried every body part. If this was local PD, perhaps call the state police? Not expecting her to have thought this through, but maybe something to think about for other cases of police misconduct.
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On another related topic............ Does anyone remeber the outcome of the white Ca. Police officer that was accused of slamming a young black male's face onto the police car's trunk after the officer had him handcuffs?
Remember it don't you? Never heard the outcome of the investigation.
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That's just it - it isn't consistently held either way. You're absolutely right that it would be a gamble.
Your rights versus Big Government; always place your money on big Government.
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On another related topic............ Does anyone remeber the outcome of the white Ca. Police officer that was accused of slamming a young black male's face onto the police car's trunk after the officer had him handcuffs?
Remember it don't you? Never heard the outcome of the investigation.
Your rights versus Big Government; always place your money on big Government.
I remember the incident. Not completely sure of the outcome, but if I recall he lost his job and was criminally charged.....not sure of the outcome completely.
But once again, the media only showed a portion of the incident. I can tell from personal experience that the fight is often not over once an officer has the suspect in handcuffs. The suspect often keeps resisting, kicking, etc.....
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Who knows, you don't know what to believe these days.
When the tape showed up, they fell all over themselves confessing but blaming each other, and they were convicted and sent to prison. As a rule, juries are notoriously willing to give cops the benefit of the doubt--if there is any.
Sounds like the prep's wife is kind of wasted on him, though. It's a pity she's quick-witted enough, and determined enough, to have flipped on the tape recorder, but has lousy enough taste in men to be hanging with him to begin with.
Of course, there's also the possibility she's been the brains of the outfit from the get-go, and he's the dummy doing what he's told and taking the fall.
This is going way too far, needs to end.... 
