Old 07-11-2006, 01:03 PM   #1
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UN Antigun Conference: Down in Flames

The hard work of gun owners has paid off in the results from the UN conference: A major defeat for the Saboteurs of the Second Amendment. ZERO results. Maybe those yellow postcards and calls to your Congressman helped . But THEY will be back.

From: nraila Email Update and David Kopel at ://volokh.com/posts/1152314168.shtml
July 7, 2006 at 7:16pm
(Edited to save space, see original at above address)

U.N. CONFERENCE ENDING, FREEDOM WINNING!!
As of 6 p.m. eastern time, the word from the United Nations small arms conference is that the conference is concluding with NO final document, and NO plans for any follow-up conference. It was the latter issue that prevented an agreement about a final document. The officials who had been charged by the conference chair with drafting the conference document presented a final take-it-or-leave it document a little while ago; that draft document eliminated various provisions that the U.S. delegation had found objectionable, but also declared that there would be at least two more conferences. The U.S. delegation refused to assent, and so the conference ended with no consensus agreement, and no plans for future conferences. The back-up plan of the international gun prohibition movement, and their many allies within the U.N. and national U.N. delegations, was to give up on significant progress in 2006, but to keep the game going with future conferences, when a more pliant U.S. administration might welcome an international gun control program.

At the United Nations, however, the Bush administration has twice rescued our right to keep and bear arms from destruction.

“…. in regards to the United Nations assault on the Second Amendment, the Bush administration, including John Bolton (in 2001 as Undersecretary of State, and in 2006 as U.N. Ambassador) has performed magnificently. The gun rights activists whose hard work in 2000 and 2004 was the sine qua non of Bush's narrow electoral victories can take satisfaction that their work has, literally, saved the Second Amendment.”

Today's victory is extremely important, but it should not be mistaken for a final victory in the international arena. The international gun prohibition lobbies are already looking towards other international fora where they can advance their goals, including their ultimate prize--a binding treaty requiring severe restriction of citizen gun possession. The various U.N. departments which have been providing funding and propaganda for gun prohibition and confiscation will almost certainly continue to do so.

For now, everyone who cares about the right to arms has much to celebrate. (by Dave Kopel)

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Old 07-11-2006, 06:24 PM   #2
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Old 07-11-2006, 10:27 PM   #3
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I generally think of Bolton as a clumsy oaf

...masquerading as a diplomat.

But on this particular issue, he was the right man in the right place at the right time. We didn't need a diplomat who would look for common ground somewhere in the middle; we needed a hard-headed spokesman determined to stick to his guns (so to speak).
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Darn shame the UN won't learn a good lesson from this.
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Darn shame the UN won't learn a good lesson from this.
They'll just try again, with a different approach. I hate to say it, but it seems likely one day they will succeed. I sure hope not, but.......
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I imagine you are correct .22guy......but, for now....let's be glad someone has stepped up to the thieves of freedom and said "no!"
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They'll just try again, with a different approach. I hate to say it, but it seems likely one day they will succeed. I sure hope not, but.......
Not without a war.
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A war between whom? Do you think Hillary will declare war against the UN for trying to take our guns, we all know that wouldn't happen. I'm not arguing with you, just curious how you mean.
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nah, i really dont think the american citizens are going to let the U.N or who ever take their guns. They (U.N) already know that taking away peoples guns does not fix anything. I really dont see why they keep trying to do these things. Its been show in many cases and still is that when you unarm the law abiding citizens crime rates go up.
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Old 07-15-2006, 10:23 AM   #11
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It's not about controlling crime, but about controlling the people. Yes, the UN will try to take our guns. Easier to control us that way. Some will fight, many or most won't. Too many Americans don't think we 'need' our guns. They fear our guns, and would be fine with the UN/US government taking them.
For now, lets keep sending the Blue Hats the message - a resounding "NO!" to giving up our guns. When the administration changes for ill, and start getting in bed with the Useless Nations - then we escalate as necessary. :uzi:
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A war between whom? I'm not arguing with you, just curious how you mean.
Us and whoever tries to take our guns. Notice that with all the wild and crazy gun laws we've had on a federal level, there has yet to be ANY federal law mandating unilateral confiscation of any type of weapon. There's been NFA reclassification, bans of manufacturing, tightening on what prohibits a person from owning. But NO confiscation. There's a reason. No senator would want to be responsible for the bloodshed of both law enforcement and otherwise innocent civilians. And no LE department or branch of service would carry it out.
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Angry Just for the sake of argument....

Quote:       Originally Posted by Ach Du Liebe
nah, i really dont think the american citizens are going to let the U.N or who ever take their guns. They (U.N) already know that taking away peoples guns does not fix anything. I really dont see why they keep trying to do these things. Its been show in many cases and still is that when you unarm the law abiding citizens crime rates go up.
You are not the first person to assign this mystical power to Americans. "America won't allow this or that....they'll rise up and put down this and that"....so I've heard before. But, Americans have allowed our rights to be stolen from us! The fourth amendment is in ruins! The second amendment has over 20,000 "infringements" (laws). If the cow poke decides to wipe his buttocks in our face what do you think America will do? Answer:
NOTHING! The fact that we allow the un access to American soil and the fact that we pay for it, the fact we give them credence of any level at all makes me suspect to what could happen given the right circumstances. And don't forget, we've allowed our government to carve up big chunks of the bill of rights without blood shed. Many times they have not even told us we lost this right or that right. We only found out after the fact because someone felt we deserved to know. What will happen next time? What if the people who have been telling us feel we don't care enough to do anything about it? what if, to the whistle blower, it ain't worth the trouble if we don't care?




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hummm,scarry thoughts,things that go bumb in the night while we sleep,things that creep down the halls of the white house in the wee hours,brrrrr.
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