[bobbyjack]

I don't think that the 243 has a kick. I shoot 100 gr rem in it and has a decent pad on it and to me it feels like shooting a 223 if that. But I've read different web pages on the 300 and some say it kicks like a mule and some say it has little more then a 243. And this is the first site that I've run across that I felt has some very knowledgeable people so I thought I'd ask. And yes I will try it first. I just found someone that I work with that has one and they said they'll let me shoot it before I go out and buy it.

If I do get one I'm looking at the Weatherby Vanguard .300 wm. Can anyone tell me if this is a good buy for a .300 at $550 or so? Thanks.

[HEMI]

Yes it is.

[cremley]

What is the average barrel life for a gun chambered in .300winmag? I wan't to use one for long range target shooting. I am debating between the .308, the .300WSM, and the .300winmag for my purposes. I wan't to start out at 400yds or less but work up to the 1000+yd mark. will I be able to do that with these calibers. I have heard that the .300winmag is the best choice for that range and it would be better to reload for than the .300WSM because of the extreme shoulder angle. Also, how hard would it be to use a .308 out to that distance? Remember, I am only using this for target shooting, I don't know the first thing about hunting.

[butzbach]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Johnnycat

I hate a 300 Win mag - useless caliber if you ask me. More recoil than a 30-06 with little benefit in my opinion. If you want a 30 cal magnum get a Weatherby - that's a real step up. Otherwise stick with the venerable old 'o6 (not that I'm a fan of it either - but I do respect the 30-06).

Sorry but you're just crazy. I shoot whitetail with 180 grain, (over kill for sure) and it doesn't even bleed. It just dies. Thr and thru like a pencil hole.

[butzbach]

Quote:       Originally Posted by bobbyjack

I don't think that the 243 has a kick. I shoot 100 gr rem in it and has a decent pad on it and to me it feels like shooting a 223 if that. But I've read different web pages on the 300 and some say it kicks like a mule and some say it has little more then a 243. And this is the first site that I've run across that I felt has some very knowledgeable people so I thought I'd ask. And yes I will try it first. I just found someone that I work with that has one and they said they'll let me shoot it before I go out and buy it. If I do get one I'm looking at the Weatherby Vanguard .300 wm. Can anyone tell me if this is a good buy for a .300 at $550 or so? Thanks.

300 WM kicks like hell and the blast will sure wake you up. I use a mussle break so the blast is even louder but the break helps a lot. I shoot to kill, not to play. Buy it a 300 and never buy anything else eccept for fun. A 300 is serious.

[boomer.hide]

With a 300 be very careful of the ever painful scope eye!!!
I know I have the scar!!!

[deadzero]

ammo for the 300 WM is about half the cost of 300 Weatherby.
the ballistics of a 150 gr. round in a 300 WM is almost identical to a 80 gr in a .243 out to 500 yds. (except energy of course)
the 300 WM is 160 fps slower than the Weatherby and the 300 WM drops 0.8 inches more at 300 yards. (that don't hurt my feelins at all)

Hmmm... sounds to me like the Weatherby is a big waste of money...

Guess I'll keep my useless gun in 300 WM, it's fed me well over the years.

Dont know how many rounds have passed down that bore over the years, but one thing is sure, the last place i saw the crosshair when she goes off is where the round hit.

[deadzero]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Beer Forever

I saw a really nice rifle at the gun store in 300 Win Mag. I haven't shot 300 Win Mag before, is it a decent round? How is it compared to the .308?

go to Remingtons web site. look under ammo, then ballistics, it will bring you to a screen that will allow you to compare up to 3 different calibers with different ammo choices.

here is a direct link:

Remington.com - Products - Ammunition - Ballistics

[GlennM]

If you're recoil-sensitive, a heavier rifle will help to minimize flinch and other bad habits that a hard kicking rifle may develop in the shooter. And to the guy who said the .300WM is a useless caliber, we're terribly sorry to hear your lobotomy wasn't successful.

[Gorgon]

Purchased a custom 300 WinMag nearly a year ago. 26" stainless heavy bbl, muzzle brake, McMillan A5 marbled stock, match grade bbl, match grade Remington 721 action, match trigger (3lb pull)... Have to say, I am very impressed with it's accuracy. Research indicates the ballistic advantage is overwhelming at best and WOULD NOT hunt deer with it. Use it for long range shooting. Muzzle brake in addition with stock cushion make the felt recoil less than a .243. My shoulder thanks me!

[Gate7]

I have a browning A-bolt stainless stalker in 300wm.
I love this rifle, I hunt deer with it using 180grain Winchester supremes Accu-bond rounds, at $55 per box it aint cheap, but then again 20 rounds will last a couple of hunting trips. Recoil is only an issue at the range when sighting in. Then again the stainless stalker is a light rifle.

[15AcreWoods]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Beer Forever

I saw a really nice rifle at the gun store in 300 Win Mag. I haven't shot 300 Win Mag before, is it a decent round? How is it compared to the .308?

What rifle was it?

I have had two .300 Winchester Mags. One was a Winchester Model 70 and the other a Browning A-Bolt. The Model 70 was very pleasant to shoot. The Browning hurt to shoot. It had a synthetic stock and less drop than the Winchester. It was also a pound lighter than the Winchester at 7 ½#. So much for light rifles. They both were very accurate.

If you are going to do a lot of range work you will need a rifle with scope in the 9 to 10 pound range. Occasional range time and mostly for hunting a lighter would be OK as you don’t notice the recoil or cut eyebrow as much when hunting. If you have ever been hit with a scope you know what I am talking about.

There was a comment to consider barrel life. You will not see accuracy affected until you have put 4,000 to 5,000 rounds down the barrel.

[sculptor]

cremley:
1000 yards
I use a 300 winmag (model 70)...my uncle, Milford had one, and claimed he could hit his mark at 1 mile, he loaned it to me for a hunt, and I went out and bought my own.
I have dropped a white tail at about 800 yards(silly beasty seemed so intent on browsing that he gave me plenty of time to adjust the scope which is normally zeroed in at 100 yards), seems 1000 is doable
windage and elevation become an issue, and then a jacketed bullet ... then lighter grain for max travel, but loses knock down power...not an issue for targets
bonadventure
rod

[Palladin8]

GlennM I have the very same 300WM you have. It's a great rifle but just a tad heavy to be packing up and down the Mounatins for me.

[deadzero]

300 WM is fine for deer. just don't do a shoulder shot or it tears up a lot of meat. thru the rib cage and double lung em. if it hit a rib bone on the way in it throws em down. I've found bone fragments under the hide on the opposite side on some. in over 30 years, and countless deer, i can count on 1 hand how many blood trails i've had to walk. it's my "no trackum gun". (suprisingly the heart shots tend to run a bit)

[texnmidwest]

300WM one of the best cartridges ever made.

Too much talk about long range shots....I would rather brag about giving the deer powder burns.

[7birdshot]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Johnnycat

I hate a 300 Win mag - useless caliber if you ask me. More recoil than a 30-06 with little benefit in my opinion. If you want a 30 cal magnum get a Weatherby - that's a real step up. Otherwise stick with the venerable old 'o6 (not that I'm a fan of it either - but I do respect the 30-06).

You must be freakin kiddin me. its the best freakin round there is. It will kill most if not all animals on the planet. it has a mild recoil. many bullet choices. and so many different types of rifles to choose from. the only rifle ive seen that they do not offer it in is the lever action. I dont see why you would not want a gun that would drop a 400 lb. black bear in its tracks!!!!!!!

[7birdshot]

yes the 300 weatherby is a good buy. its not the best one on the market but its a good buy for the money. and it kicks about like a 12 guage a little more MAYBE

[7birdshot]

Quote:       Originally Posted by deadzero

300 WM is fine for deer. just don't do a shoulder shot or it tears up a lot of meat. thru the rib cage and double lung em. if it hit a rib bone on the way in it throws em down. I've found bone fragments under the hide on the opposite side on some. in over 30 years, and countless deer, i can count on 1 hand how many blood trails i've had to walk. it's my "no trackum gun". (suprisingly the heart shots tend to run a bit)

well u gotta figure if the deer breathes out right when you shoot then it dont have long with no air. but if when u get a heart shot the deer has to bleed out or go brain dead. so it takes longer, not much though lol

[7birdshot]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Palladin8

GlennM I have the very same 300WM you have. It's a great rifle but just a tad heavy to be packing up and down the Mounatins for me.

ya but u gotta figure would you rather tote an extra 3 lbs. up a mountain or blow your arm off your body, but i know which one im goin for