Shipping a rifle

[dhermesc]

I need to ship a rifle to a gunsmith for repairs. First off, is it possible? I talked to UPS (my mistake), they will only ship to and from a manufacturer - no shipping to gun smiths. Will Federal Express ship a rifle to a FFL dealer from an individual? One office (gum smacking college girl) has already told me no - or at least not from their office.

[Gio]

Try DHL. They shipped my gun from impact guns.

[lefty o]

ups, fedex, usps will all ship rifles to a gunsmith for you. finding the person that actually knows they do is the challenge.

[Chris]

You can ship to a FFL dealer, but he is not supposed to ship it back to you. I understand it as he must ship back to an FFL dealer.

Gunsmith works...might be a tad different.

[BattleRifleG3]

You can send an existing gun to a licensed gunsmith for repair and have it returned directly to you. But otherwise you need to have it sent to your FFL and transferred to you.

[Gio]

I always thought you had to have a dealer ship it to another.

[lefty o]

you can legally ship your gun to an FFL holder, and he can legally return it directly to you.

[dhermesc]

What I've found, UPS (the office here) will only ship to a manufacturer, it will not ship to a dealer/gunsmith. Fedex will ship to a dealer/gunsmith but will only do it overnight priority - the most expensive rate they have. To go to this particular shop it will cost over $40.00. Screw it, it can wait to I can combine this with another trip.

[Rave]

What a screwed up kettle of fish,might as well take it to a local or take a vacation and visit the certain gun smith if he is the only one you trust.
Besides,guns are now being shipped Air mail because of excessive theft on ground mail.
Do you feel lucky?

[Otter]

You can mail firearm parts via USPS, as long as it's not a complete firearm, UPS ships for dealers all the time, your local dealer can ship it for you without doing the paperwork for a transaction. I've found shipping parts through the mail to work just fine. I shipped the top half of a pistol via USPS and when I got the telephone call that it had arrived I shipped the bottom half. Talking to UPS was next to useless.

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

Originally Posted by Otter

You can mail firearm parts via USPS, as long as it's not a complete firearm, UPS ships for dealers all the time,

Who says? I had a complete gun shipped to me via the USPS. Just package the item, insure it and ship it.

PS: Just don't walk into the PO with the rifle asking for a box!

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

Originally Posted by dhermesc

Will Federal Express ship a rifle to a FFL dealer from an individual? One office (gum smacking college girl) has already told me no - or at least not from their office.

What a bunch of Braindead PC liberal idiots; Either they don't know and are too stupid to ask; or they are too afraid of guns to care about you as a customer. FED EX SHIPS GUNS. USPS SHIPS GUNS I had a gunsmith from out of state ship a PISTOL to me directly which I hand delivered to him for repair. He used the USPS. Fed EX SHIPS GUNS; all the C&R pieces I order come via Fed Ex.

Just box the item and INSURE it. They don't have to know it's contents. I believe the only restriction is no ammo can be shipped with the firearm, and this may be a dealer rule.

[lefty o]

you can ship a complete rifle through usps. a complete pistol you can not.

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

From The USPS WEBSITE:

DMM 601 Mailability (full version)

11.0 Other Restricted and Nonmailable Matter
11.1 Pistols, Revolvers, and Other Concealable Firearms
11.1.1 Definitions
The terms used in this standard are defined as follows:

a. Handgun means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm or device the mailing of which is regulated by this standard.

b. Pistol or revolver means a handgun styled to be fired by the use of a single hand and to fire or otherwise expel a projectile by the action of an explosion, spring, or other mechanical action, or air or gas pressure with enough force to be used as a weapon.

c. Firearm means any device, including a starter gun, designed to, or that may readily be converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosion, spring, or other mechanical action, or air or gas pressure with enough force to be used as a weapon.

d. Other firearms capable of being concealed on the person include, but are not limited to, short-barreled shotguns and short-barreled rifles.

e. Short-barreled shotgun means a shotgun that has one or more barrels less than 18 inches long. The term short-barreled rifle means a rifle that has one or more barrels less than 16 inches long. These definitions include any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches. A short-barreled shotgun or rifle of greater dimension may be regarded as nonmailable when it has characteristics to allow concealment on the person.

f. Licensed manufacturer and licensed dealer mean, respectively, a manufacturer of firearms or a bona fide dealer of firearms, duly licensed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the Treasury, under the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618), 18 USC 921, et seq.

g. Antique firearm means any firearm (including those with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898, or any replica thereof, if such replica:

1. Is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition.

2. Uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition that is no longer manufactured in the United States and that is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

11.1.2 Handguns
Pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person (referred to as handguns) are nonmailable unless mailed between the parties listed in 11.1.3 and 11.1.5 after the filing of an affidavit or statement required by 11.1.4 and 11.1.6.

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11.1.5 Manufacturers and Dealers
Handguns may also be mailed between licensed manufacturers of firearms and licensed dealers of firearms in customary trade shipments, or for repairing or replacing parts.

11.1.6 Certificate of Manufacturers and Dealers
A licensed manufacturer or dealer need not file the affidavit under 11.1.4, but must file with the postmaster a statement on Form 1508 signed by the mailer that he or she is a licensed manufacturer or dealer of firearms, that the parcels containing handguns (or major component parts thereof) are customary trade shipments or contain such articles for repairing or replacing parts, and that to the best of his or her knowledge or belief the addressees are licensed manufacturers or dealers of firearms.

11.1.7 FBI Crime Detection Bureaus
Handguns may be mailed without regard to 11.1.3 through 11.1.6 if:

a. Addressed to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), or its director, or to the scientific laboratory or crime detection bureau of any agency whose members are federal law enforcement officers or officers of a state, territory, or district authorized to serve warrants of arrest or commitment; or

b. Offered by an authorized agent of the federal government as an official shipment to any qualified addressee in categories 11.1.3a. through 11.1.3g, or to a licensed manufacturer or dealer of firearms or to a federal agency.

11.2 Antique Firearms
Antique firearms sent as curios or museum pieces may be accepted for mailing without regard to 11.1.3 through 11.1.6.

11.3 Rifles and Shotguns
Although unloaded rifles and shotguns not precluded by 11.1.1e and 11.1.2 are mailable, mailers must comply with the Gun Control Act of 1968, Public Law 90-618, 18 USC 921, et seq., and the rules and regulations promulgated thereunder, 27 CFR 178, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the gun is unloaded and not precluded by 11.1.1e.

11.4 Legal Opinions on Mailing Firearms
Postmasters are not authorized to give opinions on the legality of any shipment of rifles or shotguns. Contact the nearest office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms for further advice.

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[Rave]

Thanks for the info!:lucky:

[Otter]

When the front sight came off my Glock I sent the slide to Smyrna Georgia to have it repaired. They sent the slide back to me UPS and UPS opened the package, their explanation; "We opened the package because we thought it contained a knife." Which makes me wonder what would have happened if it contained a pistol?

[Chris]

Don't they use X-Ray machines anymore?

[Apollyon67]

as clear as mud for me.

[Rave]

Gummint.

[BattleRifleG3]

Last I knew shipping knives was perfectly legal. Darn the UPS idiots.