[jimb2]

I'm sitting here at the computer waiting for mine to be delivered. It should be here any minute now. I ordered the .32 auto cylinder for it too as well as a couple of boxes of Hotshot Nagant ammo. I sure hope you are right about being able to reload using .30 carbine dies. That would save me additional investment in dies. I already cast .30 cal pistol bullets for the 7.62x25 and reload the .30 carbine.

Well it arrived and off I went to the range. Tried the .32 auto cylinder first. Worked fine with the few rounds I had. Found that the >32 S&W worked well in that cylinder too. Lousey trigger pull though. It must be 10 pounds in double action! I fired some of the Hotshot ammo too. Worked ok, but its not as accurate as I'm used to. BTW I reloaded those rounds tonight using .30 carbine dies. I used cast 95 gr. bullets that I have for the Tokarev. I just needed to expanf the case mouths with a Lyman .30 case mouth expander before seating the bullets. Then after seating to the proper depth, I ran the cases through the carbine crimp die to reduce the case mouth diameter. It isn't anywhere near as tight as the factory crimp, but I think it will work just fine. I'll take them out and give them a try tomorrow.

[jimb2]

I shot the reloads today. They worked fine. In fact, they were more accurate than the factory ammo! Using the carbine crimper worked perfectly. It shortened the cases just enough and allowed the case mouth to slip easily into the barrel throat. Nice even expansion and a good gas seal. Before you ask, 2.7 grains of Bullseye.....

[gandog56]

What case do you use for the gas seal to work. I thought 32-20's were too short. You talking about reloading the Hotshots?

[troylaplante]

I have used Aquila .32 S&W Long for a while. At my gun club, the owner had a bunch of boxes that nobody was buying, so I got a good deal on about eight boxes in addition to what I already had.

[jimb2]

I'm reloading the Hotshot Nagant cases. Since I cast my own bullets, I use the nose punch for the Nagant bullet to push it down into the case before I taper crimp the case mouth.

[gandog56]

OK, now all is clear. What dies are you using?

[jimb2]

I'm just using RCBS .30 carbine dies with a Lyman case mouth expander for loading cast bullets. It push it in to the point where it just starts to bell the case mouth. The bullets slip in about 1/8th inch and I use the nose punch to finish seating them about 1/4 inch below the case mouth. Then I use a regular .30 carbine case crimper to crimp the case to just above where the bullet touches the inside case wall. It doesn't make a big step in the side of the case, but it is enough to insure proper insertion of the case mouth into the "forcing cone" and doesn't overwork the brass.

[gandog56]

I just sent in my bullet seating die from the Lee conversion set with a sized case and bullet and told them I want to seat the darned thing at 1.510", which it won't do.

[Blades&Bullets]

Howdy,

I'm looking at getting myself an original 1895 Nagant. I've read up on just about everything I can find on this revolver, and I think that I've found out just about everything good and bad with this particular gun that I'm going to be able to find out without personally examing/shooting it.

Aside from a 20lb DA trigger-pull, somewhat expensive 7.62x38mm ammunition ($25 per 50rd box), un-attractive sights, and being able to shoot the cheaper and somewhat less effective/efficient dirtier .32 rounds in ACP, S&W Long, and HMR, and overall accuracy being limited to about 20yds, is there anything that I don't know about this gun that I should?

[squirrelblaster]

^ nah, for the most part i think you have it down!

[augois]

This may be a dumb question, but what's to keep you from trimming original brass enough to seat the bullet in what we would consider a standard method(outside of the case). Then load the cartridge to just under cylinder length. I realize that you would lose the benefit of the seal, but seems it would be easier to deal with.

[gandog56]

You might as well just fire .32 ACP then as it's cheaper. The gas seal is supposed to give you 100 fps more.

[biscayne bill]

I have an 1895 Nagant revolver made in Tula Arsenal in 1932. The gun is in as fine a condition as any Nagant I've seen. I looked at countless videos showing that you could shoot the .32 H&R mag, the .32 S&W long and .32 S&W short. In February, 2010, I bought 30 rounds of reloaded .32 H&R mag jacketed hollow point from a dealer at a gun show in Florida. Two weeks ago, I took the gun to a range for the first time. I shot the factory 7.62 Nagant ammo manufactured by Hotshot without a flaw. Then I loaded the .32 H&R mag I had bought in Florida, fired the revolver, and had one misfire. Then I loaded some .32 Fiochi wad-cutters and fired, noticing that I wasn't hitting the self-defense target at seven yards. I looked at the gun and discovered one of the .32 H&R mag reloads was lodged three-quarters of the way outside the barrel. I removed the bullet, checked the barrel for obstruction, and found a series of .32 wad-cutters still in the barrel. I took the gun to a gunsmith in Colorado, who punched out five .32 wad-cutters from the barrel. It is amazing that I didn't have any type of serious injury. After inspecting the Nagant, I found no bulges in the barrel or fractures in the frame; it seemed as good as new. I contacted the ammo dealer who made the reloads and returned the rest of the ammo to him in Florida, with the repair invoice for removal of the bullets. He phoned me several days later and said I couldn't shoot that .32 H&R mag or any .32 in that revolver because the bullet diameter is larger than the 7.62. He claims no liability and denies that any of his reloads caused the problem. I believe the reloader doesn't want to assume any liability for the mishap. I think it was a primer problem or one of the bullets had no powder in it. Have any of you ever experienced anything like this? I'm looking for answers.

[Freezing Hot]

Sorry to say it, but I think you may be SOL.

Seeing as .32 H&R Mag is not intended for use in the Nagant revolver, I can't see him having any liability.

I just don't buy reloads, problem solved.

[biscayne bill]

I have my doubts about shooting .32 H&R Mag in the Nagant.Stick with the Hotshot Nagant you can't go wrong.I had a .32 H&R bullet hang up in the barrrel.It was a reload.I called the dealer who reloaded it and said it was the guns fault and not his Had to been a dud(no powder) he will not refund money for ammo I sent back to him and will not pay for gunsmith knocking out six,yes six .32 wadcutters that were behind the Mag.What a guy.

[biscayne bill]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Freezing Hot

Sorry to say it, but I think you may be SOL. Seeing as .32 H&R Mag is not intended for use in the Nagant revolver, I can't see him having any liability. I just don't buy reloads, problem solved.

Why then did the .32 Mag bullet lodge in the barrel?Sounds like no powder in case.>32 acp(7.65mm)is shot in this gun by a converted cylinder available on the web.or at many local gun shows.Nagant round is 7.62x38.