[Beer Forever]

I completely agree.

All the problems that the Repubs started or ignored, the refuse to admit. How about being a man and saying, sure, what I did was wrong, or things aren't working well, lets do something different.

[BattleRifleG3]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sks forever

How could the Dems do any worse?

History will tell how dangerous those types of words are.

One reason the legislature shifted was that no one could be constructively critical of Bush. They were either a yes man or an antagonist. Never a respectful disagreer who tried to cover the bases Bush missed and actually propose something that made the most of Bush's proposals but made it better, ie more effective, more acceptable by the public, and more Constitutionally sound. Not saying this didn't happen at all, but it was far from noticeable.

[Jesse]

Quote:       Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

I did know about the Castle Law, but I did not know about the 1gun/month law as I have only been here a year. And I did vote for Republicans in every State house and senate seat except for Sec/Ed and Lt Governor. My ANTI CORRPUTION statements about the national republican party control of the Federal branches of government are DEAD ON and more honest than your's since you are referring to apples while I'm talking about oranges. If I simply wish to complain then it might be because you simply wish to make excuses for a party which abandoned all of their conservative platform from 94which won them their control of the Federal gov. BTW what part of SC are you in? I'm in Greenwood.

South Carolina's one gun a month law was enacted around the same time North Carolina enacted the handgun pistol permit law. Both were in response to the GCA of '68. I believe both laws were passed in the early 1970's. South Carolina did away with the one gun a month law. Noth Carolina allows a CCW holder to bypass the handgun pistol permit law.

[7mmag6]

this is agun forum hang on to your guns boys pelosi will come after them

[Zen900]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Rave

How much can they do in such a short time? IMO they did a lot! Sold us out is a lot! Start a few pointless wars that are turning into Viet Nams is a lot! Ports,uncontrolable "immigration." Inevitable riseing taxes to pay the piper is a lot! Good American jobs going out of the country,while illegals take the lower jobs leaving zilch for us is a lot! And telling us a whole pack o' lies,believing ,or not,that we are stupid enough to believe them is a lot. Taking our freedoms while screaming homeland security is good for us,at the same time claiming that the Democrats will take our guns.The whole gummint wants our guns and will try to get them,if only by different means. A gummint who fears the people because it has screwed them always wants their weapons,be they guns or swords. Dang,and here I said I was going to quit raveing,sorry about that!

I know of a liberal gun forum where there others who emote like you do. If you want the link pm me and Ill send it to you.

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Zen900

I know of a liberal gun forum where there others who emote like you do. If you want the link pm me and Ill send it to you.

I'd say Rave's complaints, and his opposition to what our government's been up to lately, are solidly grounded in his conservative beliefs.

It's quite a stretch to call him a liberal, unless "liberal" nowadays just means someone doesn't like Bush and his buddies.

I don't think the Bush people are conservatives. I'd say they're neo-cons, and I think they've betrayed every conservative principle they claim to believe in.

If that be Liberalism, make the most of it.

[Shaun]

Troy maybe its an invite for you

[troy2000]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Shaun

Troy maybe its an invite for you

I like it here.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Quote:       Originally Posted by troy2000

I'd say Rave's complaints, and his opposition to what our government's been up to lately, are solidly grounded in his conservative beliefs. It's quite a stretch to call him a liberal, unless "liberal" nowadays just means someone doesn't like Bush and his buddies. I don't think the Bush people are conservatives. I'd say they're neo-cons, and I think they've betrayed every conservative principle they claim to believe in. If that be Liberalism, make the most of it.

I don't like bush and I don't like any of his pals. They are all liars and certainly are not the conservative bunch I had supposed they were when I voted for him the first time. I knew he was slime and that his ideas were better left to the buffoons in comic books. His stubbornness and stupidity have cost the party dearly. We are the ones who will suffer. He's gonna retire and spend all that money his buds will give him for all his favors. The only winners, besides bush and his pals, are the dems. they get their turn at the trough while we suffer. bush owes us an apology and a truthful explanation for his fleeing from all that we had expected. His continued refusal to deal with the illegals and his defense of the ports deals added to his plot to spy on all Americans is unforgivable. I can't understand how anyone can still maintain allegiance to him.

[Rave]

There is a lot of denial out there since the election,at least more than before.
Judgeing by the situation we are in not every Republican has the best interest of OUR country foremost in his mind or heart.
Nor,to my knowledge does every Democrat want to rob us of all our rights and make slaves of us.
To say that this is a fact is like saying that every Jew is a vampire living off the blood of the rest of the word.
Or every muslum would die happy if the rest of the world dissappeared.
Or every Christian wants only for the rest of the world to live in peace.
Just don't believe any of these absolutes are true.
Nor do I believe that every person who does'nt support Bushes policies is a "cut and run" coward,it sounds mostly like a crock to me,for what that't worth.

[Shaun]

I have noticed that many of you, and you know who you are, have started putting blame on those with a Jewish background when did this forum become anti semetic? I never received the memo

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Not again.......

[Rave]

Well,I guess this forum just is'nt pro-semitic enough to suit you.
I think that this forum is pretty fair and balanced,better than most,and is also tolerant of differing opinions as long as they are'nt personal attacks or flames.
Perhaps a post you sent to Troy2000 might be attractive to you now,"Troy maybe it's an invite for you."
Watched an interview with Benjamin Netinyahu and he wants the US to take care of Iran,it is a threat to HIS country,he makes no bones about HIS country be first in his mind,I respect that as he is honest in that respect and will do whatever it takes to preserve it.They are a small country and have to be that way.
I also heard them discussing the road signs with pictures of beheaded Israeli soldiers with the message in Hebrew under them saying"this is where your dogs died." On one side were Palistinian flags and on the other wetre UN flags.
It is no wonder he is so concerned and wants us to act in his behalf.Cont. They also asked why most Jews in this country are Democrats,because the Republicans are the ones that stand up for Israel,Ben declined repeatedly to answer that and several other questions.
While he is a shoot first and ask questions leader,he is not the leader that Arial Sharon was,people like him just come along once in a while,a true leader.
I guess by now you can see that I respect the Israelis,don't trust them for they will do or say whatever it takes to save their country,
On the other hand I tend to grow weary of many Jews in America,they seem to be obsessed with getting all they can by throwing labels around and screaming at what they consider an anti-semetic slight,real or imagined to keep the pot boiling and further their oun agendas,both political and personal.
"politics"= poli meaning many,tics being blood sucking creatures. Dang!
I stand behind what I say,and if you want to give me the boot for giving my opinion,(I thought it was appropriate at the time.) I will be unhappy,but I won't cry.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

Dang! Just say what you think dude!

[Shaun]

Rave I have noted a lot of bashing lately because the jewish people tend to be in control control of money and many of the members on the site here are whining that companies have made profits in this country

[Rufus Rhastus J]

businesses are in business to make money. I got no problem with that. It's the gouge that I don't appreciate. Especially when we are talking about fuel...something we all need. I think, also, since we are a country at war, it is not very patriotic to bleed the country, and, all Americans, of their money. I consider it, the act of gouging America, to be "economic Terrorism" and should be illegal! The fact of the matter is that this thievery effects the entire economy of America.

[Rave]

Gouge is the word,charge all that the people can bear.
I have asked this question many times and have never received an answer,neither did Mr. Netenyahu provide one,why do most Jews vote Democrat,I can only sermize that they,of course not all,don't give a darn about Israel or for that matter this country,but are only interested in enriching them selves no matter what it takes.
Of course this is not limited to Jews,it is wide spread,especially when the gummint has sold out to big busines,well the temptation is there and those missing scruples will take advantage in one way or another.
I don't consider the gougers to be real Americans,nor our turncoat leaders.I only hope we can turn this mess around before it is too late.

[Shaun]

last I checked its the arabs who run opec and the oil not Isreal so its the arabs gouging us not the isreali's

[Rave]

True,never said it was just the Israelies,nor just the Jews. The Israelies are just trying to survive,imo.

[Rufus Rhastus J]

I once saw a T-shirt that had a picture of a tree being cut down and a spotted owl, with feathers in the air, falling out of a hole in the tree! The caption read: "Adapt or die!" There's a lesson there, don't you think? Who are we to intervene when Mother Nature has has made Her decision?