Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-08-2006, 03:21 AM   #1
Firearm Zealot
 
SPOCAHP ANAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SC-upstate
Posts: 4,682
Cut and Run Conservatives

I like how certain people are calling Republicans who are fed up with Bush and his republican controlled house and senate "Cut and Run" conservatives because they either stayed home or voted for a third party candidate.

Well; when the Republican Leaders "Cut and Run" from conservative ideas then they should expect to have "Cut and Run" Republican Voters on election day.
__________________
Commen Sense and Critical Thinking are an absolute joke in today's society. Yes I am talking to you!
SPOCAHP ANAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 07:22 AM   #2
Retired Moderator
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 8,868
they are not true republicans then. While I am not a fan of the way they have handled several things we still have to support the party and only vote for our team. That's why I voted straight down the line republican
__________________
"Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME
http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/
Shaun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 07:53 AM   #3
Banned
 
troy2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 14,552
I don't believe in blind loyalty

Quote:       Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
they are not true republicans then. While I am not a fan of the way they have handled several things we still have to support the party and only vote for our team. That's why I voted straight down the line republican
And I don't vote only for "our team." Didn't when I was a registered Republican, and don't now that I'm a registered Democrat.
troy2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 10:28 AM   #4
Firearm Zealot
 
Dale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona
Posts: 4,288
Quote:       Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
they are not true republicans then. While I am not a fan of the way they have handled several things we still have to support the party and only vote for our team. That's why I voted straight down the line republican
Exactly.

Now we'll have to contend with a Democratic House and, possibly, a Democratic Senate.

Even the conservative side of Republican party issues in Arizona took a beating.

This is not gonna play out nice for the Republican politics on down the road.

Even a large portion of Arizona state proposiitons (and we had the largest number of propositions of any state) went to the liberal side. Not good.

But I think a larger percentage of people (than was expected) took advantage of their votes, or lack of, to let their 'voices' talk about their discontent in today's politics.
__________________
"It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me
Dale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 03:22 PM   #5
Firearm Zealot
 
SPOCAHP ANAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SC-upstate
Posts: 4,682
Quote:       Originally Posted by Dale View Post
This is not gonna play out nice for the Republican politics on down the road.
I'm not so sure Dale. Hopefully the republicans can get back on track with the ideas that won them the house and senate back in the 90's. Something about shrinking the size of government, abolishing the DOE, trimming pork spending..... They had a name for it ..... what was it again?.......
Polling data shows that the War on Iraq was only the second leading factor against the Republicans. As I said, people are tired of the BULL!
Never liked the idea of straight party voting. Once had a democrat tell me he'd vote for Hitler if he ran on the Democrat ticket. If the guy is a sorry POS, why reelect him?
__________________
Commen Sense and Critical Thinking are an absolute joke in today's society. Yes I am talking to you!
SPOCAHP ANAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 05:14 PM   #6
Firearm Zealot
 
Beer Forever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 2,935
The way I look at it is this: the people are fed up with the way things have been going, myself included. The debt is over 200 billion dollars, the debt that was a surplus when W first took over.

The boarders are being over-run and the people have been screaming and nothing has been done about it. To appease the people some Repubs drew up a stupid bill saying that a fence was going to be built, but has gone nowhere and is not funded. We are so worried about homeland security, but do nothing about the fact that our country is being invaded and over run.

The troops are not motivated and the war is going nowhere and the people know that it was a big mistake.

It is time for change, the Repubs had over 8 years to clean up Washington and make things better but chose to fight with the left instead of doing anything.

How could the Dems do any worse?
Beer Forever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 07:28 PM   #7
Retired Moderator
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 8,868
Quote:       Originally Posted by sks forever View Post
How could the Dems do any worse?
Lets see the dems believe in big government, socialist programs where the gov has to be involved in everything. They love the UN they believe in communism they believe fags should have rights above the real people in the US. Did I forget to mention they are cowards and don't believe in our rights to protect ourselves and then of course they think there is an actual seperation of church and state yet they can not show any documentation.
__________________
"Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME
http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/
Shaun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 07:42 PM   #8
Firearm Zealot
 
SPOCAHP ANAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SC-upstate
Posts: 4,682
Quote:       Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
they believe fags should have rights above the real people in the US.
One; please elaborate on this....... and Two; such a derogatory descriptive term isn't necessary.
__________________
Commen Sense and Critical Thinking are an absolute joke in today's society. Yes I am talking to you!
SPOCAHP ANAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 07:56 PM   #9
Retired Moderator
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 8,868
its simple they want to let them have rights of married people when they are not legally married and then we do not allow those same rights for everyone.
__________________
"Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME
http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/
Shaun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 08:15 PM   #10
Firearm Zealot
 
SPOCAHP ANAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SC-upstate
Posts: 4,682
Quote:       Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
its simple they want to let them have rights of married people when they are not legally married and then we do not allow those same rights for everyone.
No; they want them to have the same priveledges as married people by letting them get married; adopting kids, declaring spouses for income tax deductions, property inheritance rights etc... These priveldges would only be available through entering in a same sex union or marriage contract.
__________________
Commen Sense and Critical Thinking are an absolute joke in today's society. Yes I am talking to you!
SPOCAHP ANAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 08:24 PM   #11
Retired Moderator
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 8,868
its not a marriage and is not right they made the choice to be in the situation they are and they need to live with it. Marriage benefits are only for those who can legally get married ie male and female. the idea of letting two guys or gals get married is ridiculous whats next they will marry their dogs? sex offenders will marry children?
__________________
"Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME
http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

Last edited by Shaun; 11-08-2006 at 08:29 PM.
Shaun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 08:28 PM   #12
Firearm Zealot
 
SPOCAHP ANAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SC-upstate
Posts: 4,682
Quote:       Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
its not a marriage and is not right they made the choice to be in the situation they are and they need to live with it.
Never said it was; your statement wasn't clarified correctly.

BTW 7 states passed Marriage protection acts.

(G&G official gay smilie?)
__________________
Commen Sense and Critical Thinking are an absolute joke in today's society. Yes I am talking to you!
SPOCAHP ANAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 08:29 PM   #13
Retired Moderator
 
Shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 8,868
Yes I know I live in one
__________________
"Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME
http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/
Shaun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 08:39 PM   #14
Firearm Aficionado
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 740
Quote:       Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR View Post
I like how certain people are calling Republicans who are fed up with Bush and his republican controlled house and senate "Cut and Run" conservatives because they either stayed home or voted for a third party candidate.
Well; when the Republican Leaders "Cut and Run" from conservative ideas then they should expect to have "Cut and Run" Republican Voters on election day.
SPOCAHP ANAR if you live in SC then you must be aware that Republicans here eliminated the ONE GUN A MONTH law. Republicans also passed a law stating that no longer can a citizen who is forced to use deadly force with a gun to defend himself in his home or auto be sued by the attacker or the attackers family. Third the Republicans passed a law stating that no longer is a citizen required to backdown before using deadly force with a gun on an attacker. These are very conservative ideas. You won't get these rights from the Democrats. I am thankful that South Carolinians were intelligent enough yesterday to keep Republicans in power in our state. You are unwilling to give any credit at all to Republicans here in your home state for their efforts to protect you and your 2nd amendment rights. I live in SC too and I'm very proud of what has been done. Your anti republican statements are absolutely dishonest. You simply want to complain.
Zen900 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 08:57 PM   #15
Firearm Zealot
 
SPOCAHP ANAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SC-upstate
Posts: 4,682
Quote:       Originally Posted by Zen900 View Post
SPOCAHP ANAR if you live in SC then you must be aware that Republicans here eliminated the ONE GUN A MONTH law. Republicans also passed a law stating that no longer can a citizen who is forced to use deadly force with a gun to defend himself in his home or auto be sued by the attacker or the attackers family. Third the Republicans passed a law stating that no longer is a citizen required to backdown before using deadly force with a gun on an attacker. These are very conservative ideas. You won't get these rights from the Democrats. I am thankful that South Carolinians were intelligent enough yesterday to keep Republicans in power in our state. You are unwilling to give any credit at all to Republicans here in your home state for their efforts to protect you and your 2nd amendment rights. I live in SC too and I'm very proud of what has been done. Your anti republican statements are absolutely dishonest. You simply want to complain.
I did know about the Castle Law, but I did not know about the 1gun/month law as I have only been here a year. And I did vote for Republicans in every State house and senate seat except for Sec/Ed and Lt Governor. My ANTI CORRPUTION statements about the national republican party control of the Federal branches of government are DEAD ON and more honest than your's since you are referring to apples while I'm talking about oranges.

If I simply wish to complain then it might be because you simply wish to make excuses for a party which abandoned all of their conservative platform from 94which won them their control of the Federal gov.

BTW what part of SC are you in?

I'm in Greenwood.
__________________
Commen Sense and Critical Thinking are an absolute joke in today's society. Yes I am talking to you!
SPOCAHP ANAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 09:25 PM   #16
Firearm Aficionado
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 740
Quote:       Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR View Post
I did know about the Castle Law, but I did not know about the 1gun/month law as I have only been here a year. And I did vote for Republicans in every State house and senate seat except for Sec/Ed and Lt Governor. My ANTI CORRPUTION statements about the national republican party control of the Federal branches of government are DEAD ON and more honest than your's since you are referring to apples while I'm talking about oranges.
If I simply wish to complain then it might be because you simply wish to make excuses for a party which abandoned all of their conservative platform from 94which won them their control of the Federal gov.
BTW what part of SC are you in?
I'm in Greenwood.
The Republicans have only been in charge of the US House since 1994. How much can they do in such a short time? The state of SC was run by Democrats for over 100 years before Republicans gained a numerical majority in 94 also. Republicans have never had a 2/3 majority(super majority) at the state or federallevel which is what they needed to pass a conservative agenda. Every little gain Reps made was hard fought and had to include compromises to the Democrats to pass the Senate. You should have supported Republicans in the Lt Gov and Sec ED. They needed your support.
Zen900 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 09:55 PM   #17
Banned
 
troy2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 14,552
I seem to remember the Republicans in 1994 promising to eliminate the Department of Education, because locals knew best what their local schools needed. So why did they stuff the "No Child Left Behind Act" down our throats instead, which is the biggest intrusion ever made on local school control and powers?

It's typical of the Repub's: they talked "take care of America at home first," and "nation-building isn't our job," then took off invading other countries and trying to cram American-style governments down people's throats in places where they don't even understand the concept.

They talked "small government," then expanded it ridiculously instead.

They talked "fiscal responsibility" and "pay as you go," then turned the first federal surplus in a generation or two into record deficits, in record time.

They talked about how they wanted to "keep the government out of our families and our homes," then started trying to cram their Evangelical Christian agenda down our throats instead.

They talked about "ethics and morality," then took crooked money hand-over-fist while they were jumping anything in a skirt OR pants. And so on and so forth.

They gave lip service to the Constitution, while trying to concentrate all governmental power in the Presidency and strip away our legal rights, under the pretense of "protecting" us.

They have betrayed every principle of the Contract With America under which they swept into power, and it's time they hit the road. I'm tired of Neo-Con's who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

And you know what? I don't give a rat's arse whether gays get married or not. It's going to have absolutely no effect on the marriages of anyone I know. Maybe some of those two-faced rabble-rousers like "Pastor Ted" Haggard have a secret yen to dump the old lady and hook up with Bruce in unholy matrimony, and they need the law to protect them from themselves. I don't personally have that problem...

Last edited by troy2000; 11-08-2006 at 09:59 PM.
troy2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 10:45 PM   #18
Firearm Zealot
 
Deersniper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 8,649
Lightbulb The paridigm has changed

We have to quit being good Republicans and Democrats and Independents and start being good Americans following the Constitution... restoring the Republic for which it stands.
Deersniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2006, 10:59 PM   #19
Banned
 
troy2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 14,552
Amen

Quote:       Originally Posted by Deersniper View Post
We have to quit being good Republicans and Democrats and Independents and start being good Americans following the Constitution... restoring the Republic for which it stands.
More sense in fewer words than any other post today.
troy2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2006, 11:35 AM   #20
Firearm Zealot
 
Rave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Tampa,Florida.
Posts: 10,793
How much can they do in such a short time?
IMO they did a lot!
Sold us out is a lot!
Start a few pointless wars that are turning into Viet Nams is a lot!
Ports,uncontrolable "immigration."
Inevitable riseing taxes to pay the piper is a lot!
Good American jobs going out of the country,while illegals take the lower jobs leaving zilch for us is a lot!
And telling us a whole pack o' lies,believing ,or not,that we are stupid enough to believe them is a lot.
Taking our freedoms while screaming homeland security is good for us,at the same time claiming that the Democrats will take our guns.The whole gummint wants our guns and will try to get them,if only by different means.
A gummint who fears the people because it has screwed them always wants their weapons,be they guns or swords.
Dang,and here I said I was going to quit raveing,sorry about that!
__________________
USAF 62-66 E-4
Resident Curmudgeon
Absolute power breeds absolute corruption.
Rave is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Gun & Game - The Friendliest Gun Forum on the Internet > General > The Powder Keg

Tags
conservatives, cut, run

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:24 AM.




Recent Discussions

Connect with us!
Advertisement



"It don't cost nuthin' to be nice." -- Mike West