[just_a_car]

Quote:       Originally Posted by meatloaf

I wish I could see. Do you have anyword on how your scope works on your cetme?

For those not able to see Lakerdad's pictures, here's the links:
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/att...t-dsc04704.jpg
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/att...t-dsc02098.jpg
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/att...t-dsc04703.jpg


As for the scope, I haven't had a chance (due to schoolwork) to get out and shoot it after that first chance at the range. I couldn't get it to zero to save my life. Odd thing was, the mount didn't appear to move at all, nor did the scope in the rings. I did notice the rings were a little loose on the mount and tightened them up, but that didn't seem to help.

I know the firearm gets sufficient groups on iron sights, so now I just need to figure out what's up with the scope setup.

[LakerDad]

just a car: Thanks for posting the pic links.
I like your Cetme, nice setup, do you like the way the buttstock feels? How's the recoil? Most likely the same as the wood stock?
The 30rd mags may still be at Cheaper Than Dirt. I think I paided $10 or $11 each a year ago. The steel mags weigh more, that's why I like the alum. H/K 20 rd ones. I have no problem using them like some have wrote...can you imagine the drum that will on the market? The extra weight, wow, I have a 75rd drum for my AK which is heavy, maybe 4.5 lbs.
I think a scope on mine would help me, keep us posted on your results, maybe it's just a minor adjustment!
A guy at our gun show last week end, had a few Cetmes starting $475 up to $600. He had a bunch of the Indian Enfields .308, I got one from AIM to help shoot up my Indian .308 ammo. I just wish I had bought more SA ammo.

[mos19k]

This is one of the rifles on my list. I'm trying to get one rifle and one pistol from all my ancestral countries.

The CETME just looks like a fighter. Thanks for all the information and sharing all your trials and tribulations.

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yeah thanks again Just an awesome car. every where I go your behind the best part of the conversation.
I couldn't hold out either. I've wanted this gun for a very long time but was unaware of the whole difference between the Spanish Lady's and the German Gents. After consideration and personal delibration, CETME is my choice of reason. Best and meanest of the assault surplus firearm. and I love the slap cocking mechanism, don't know what people are talking about when they call it awkward.

Mos you better get on it they're goin fast.....gion....goin......------.

[just_a_car]

My pleasure, Enscribe.

I actually chose this username a long time ago to be somewhat of a Double Entendre. The two meanings being the literal of "Oh, don't worry it's just a car, it can be replaced" and in a vampire role-playing game I play, it's a very high-ranking official in a sect of vampires: "The Justicar of the vampire clan: Nosferatu." So, don't think it as self-deprecating... though I appreciate the praise. I also go by JAC here and on other forums (which was a nickname for my username given by others, go figure!).

As for the charging handle, it is rather difficult to charge, due to the spring weight, but the location is great! I mean, you can keep your hand on the pistol grip ready to fire while charging the weapon; that's one of the biggest arguments for the AR-15 in the AR vs. AK debate! I also love the authoritative klack that the charging handle gives when you slap it down, just like on an MP5.

Admittedly, there is this tactical magazine change using AKCLONE's VMG product to rebuke that argument :

YouTube - AK-47 Magazine Change

YouTube - AK-47 Magazine Change

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I know of the flip method with the AK paddle release. that is the only thing that I don't prefer about this gun is the AR type mag release.
I also know some Tactical AK moves like transitioning Primary weapon to secondary. Secondary then becoming primary weapon. Learned it off a Spetsnaz video I have. I'll try to find a post of it.

[sIXgUn78]

Brand new here. Found this post very imformative as I have a Century Arms C91 sporter(G3) and I am having the same problems. I origanally wanted a CETME but I let the dealer talk me out of it. He was a good friend of my brother and his wife so I trusted him. I had him and his "gunsmith" look at it only to have them tell me I needed to run match grade ammo through this rifle! I'm a novice for the most part even I knew that wasn't true.

I took to them a second time telling them I was mad as hell that they fed me some bull and demanded that the problem get fixed asap. Supposedly they sent it off to Century Arms to have it looked at. I don't believe it since it came back the way I sent it with the same problems. As it turns out this guy was a shister from the get go and my brother no longer has any relations with him either. Real nice.

This thread has opened up quite a few options for me to try and will try them asap. My shooting time is limited but I will do what I can and try to post further as I try new things.

[WyrTwister]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sIXgUn78

Brand new here. Found this post very imformative as I have a Century Arms C91 sporter(G3) and I am having the same problems. I origanally wanted a CETME but I let the dealer talk me out of it. He was a good friend of my brother and his wife so I trusted him. I had him and his "gunsmith" look at it only to have them tell me I needed to run match grade ammo through this rifle! I'm a novice for the most part even I knew that wasn't true. I took to them a second time telling them I was mad as hell that they fed me some bull and demanded that the problem get fixed asap. Supposedly they sent it off to Century Arms to have it looked at. I don't believe it since it came back the way I sent it with the same problems. As it turns out this guy was a shister from the get go and my brother no longer has any relations with him either. Real nice. This thread has opened up quite a few options for me to try and will try them asap. My shooting time is limited but I will do what I can and try to post further as I try new things.

Contact Century , might get some help ?

Could not hurt ?

My Century CETME did not have the frount sight close enough to Top Dead Center to zero in at 100 yards . :-(


God bless
Wyr

[sIXgUn78]

I sent them a ticket with a general description of the issue.

As far as trying some things with this rifle it will be a a couple weeks from now before I can do it. Gonna try to get some suggested ammo and "new" mags for it in the meantime.

[WyrTwister]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sIXgUn78

I sent them a ticket with a general description of the issue. As far as trying some things with this rifle it will be a a couple weeks from now before I can do it. Gonna try to get some suggested ammo and "new" mags for it in the meantime.

Look for some good military surplus ammo . That is all I will shoot in mine ( I no longer shoot it ) .

The CETME & H&K are hard on brass .

God bless
Wyr

[sIXgUn78]

Will do. Thanks and I will post with results when I can.

What grain should I be looking for? I also read in here that Wolf ammo should be avoided? Steel casings?

[sIXgUn78]

Quote:       Originally Posted by LakerDad

just a car: The 30rd mags may still be at Cheaper Than Dirt. I think I paided $10 or $11 each a year ago.

The 30rd mags are still there for $12. Aluminum 20rd are $3 and the steel are $6. Midway had them for over $50! Reviews sounded good so I bought some 20rd alum. and steel.

[WyrTwister]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sIXgUn78

Will do. Thanks and I will post with results when I can. What grain should I be looking for? I also read in here that Wolf ammo should be avoided? Steel casings?

Have not used any Wolf steel case .308 Win .

I have shot Chi-Com copper washed steel case in other .308's .

Lacquer coated steel Wolf in .223 has a reputation of causing problems in AR-15's .

Buy a ShotgunNews & check out the adds . Buy in quantity .

God bless
Wyr

[just_a_car]

I use almost all Wolf steel-cased, lacquer-coated .308Win without issue. The only thing I would say is that it is certainly more dirty and will make for a longer and dirtier clean up; you're guaranteed to have powder caked onto the last 5 rounds of your 20 round magazine before they even get fed into the chamber. Our Spanish Ladies can handle it, though... they like it dirty.

[sIXgUn78]

Well I found some surplus ammo here in Wisconsin finally. Yes I know I can get it online but I just haven't gone through all the steps yet to get it that way.
It's 145grain, steel case, FMJ Brown Bear. Russian made I'm told. He is selling me 500rds. for $160. From what I have seen so far online that is a reasonable price.
I also just got my "new" mags in today. 5 aluminum and 5 steel. I tried them all in the mag well and it looks like about 6 or 7 fit pretty good. Others are really loose like the steel ones I already have. I hope this helps me out some. Gonna tear it down and give it a real good cleaning and oiling this weekend before I try them out. Keep your fingers crossed.

[WyrTwister]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sIXgUn78

Well I found some surplus ammo here in Wisconsin finally. Yes I know I can get it online but I just haven't gone through all the steps yet to get it that way. It's 145grain, steel case, FMJ Brown Bear. Russian made I'm told. He is selling me 500rds. for $160. From what I have seen so far online that is a reasonable price. I also just got my "new" mags in today. 5 aluminum and 5 steel. I tried them all in the mag well and it looks like about 6 or 7 fit pretty good. Others are really loose like the steel ones I already have. I hope this helps me out some. Gonna tear it down and give it a real good cleaning and oiling this weekend before I try them out. Keep your fingers crossed.

At least , in a free state , the only thing you will have to do to order ammo is take a photo copy of your I. D. and either mail or fax it to the vendor .

Do not forget to clean the chamber / flutes very well .

God bless
Wyr

[just_a_car]

Quote:       Originally Posted by WyrTwister

At least , in a free state , the only thing you will have to do to order ammo is take a photo copy of your I. D. and either mail or fax it to the vendor . Do not forget to clean the chamber / flutes very well . God bless Wyr

Really? In my state, I just use a credit/debit card to pay for it online and that confirms my age.

But, Back On Topic.... I finally drilled out and filed-down the fake vent holes on my plastic handguard. Hopefully that'll semi-cure the problem of overheating. I highly doubt it will completely fix it because the hottest part I've felt was the receiver around the chamber; that hurt.

[WyrTwister]

Quote:       Originally Posted by just_a_car

Really? In my state, I just use a credit/debit card to pay for it online and that confirms my age. But, Back On Topic.... I finally drilled out and filed-down the fake vent holes on my plastic handguard. Hopefully that'll semi-cure the problem of overheating. I highly doubt it will completely fix it because the hottest part I've felt was the receiver around the chamber; that hurt.

The barrel is going to get very hot !!!!!!!!!!!


God bless
Wyr

[sIXgUn78]

Well the results were not what I had hoped. It was better than before though. The Brown Bear ammo was pretty good I think. I cleaned the rifle very good and then went out to shoot. Every round that fired ejected which was a positive sign. But I still have feeding issues. Out of 11 mags (5 20rd steel, 5 20rd alum. and 1 5rd steel) only the 5rd mag fed properly. I did buy it brand new so that may have something to do with it. I put about 50rds through it at that time and put it away to spend time with the family.

The following day I went a range and loaded 10rds in each mag and proceeded to fire them off. I had failure to feed in every one of them except the 5rd mag! This time I did have ejecting issues. Some of the cases ended up down in the trigger mechanism! Had to pull it all apart get them out. That was only 3 times though so not too bad. Overall I think the ammo performed well. I cant believe all the mags are bad and think that there may be something else going on. I saved some empty cases and will get some pics of them up. They appear to be in ok shape except for the ones that jammed.

Just a car and Wyr, you guys are not joking at all about the heat. That SOB gets really hot! I finished off the shooting holding the rifle one handed at my hip lol! I couldn't touch the hand guard. I took it apart and let it cool on the bench while I walked up to the pistol bench and rapped off some .45 from my 1911.

[WyrTwister]

Quote:       Originally Posted by sIXgUn78

Well the results were not what I had hoped. It was better than before though. The Brown Bear ammo was pretty good I think. I cleaned the rifle very good and then went out to shoot. Every round that fired ejected which was a positive sign. But I still have feeding issues. Out of 11 mags (5 20rd steel, 5 20rd alum. and 1 5rd steel) only the 5rd mag fed properly. I did buy it brand new so that may have something to do with it. I put about 50rds through it at that time and put it away to spend time with the family. The following day I went a range and loaded 10rds in each mag and proceeded to fire them off. I had failure to feed in every one of them except the 5rd mag! This time I did have ejecting issues. Some of the cases ended up down in the trigger mechanism! Had to pull it all apart get them out. That was only 3 times though so not too bad. Overall I think the ammo performed well. I cant believe all the mags are bad and think that there may be something else going on. I saved some empty cases and will get some pics of them up. They appear to be in ok shape except for the ones that jammed. Just a car and Wyr, you guys are not joking at all about the heat. That SOB gets really hot! I finished off the shooting holding the rifle one handed at my hip lol! I couldn't touch the hand guard. I took it apart and let it cool on the bench while I walked up to the pistol bench and rapped off some .45 from my 1911.

My CETME works with some mags & not others . I suspect part of it has to do with how far the mag extends up into the mag well ?

Best I remember , the receivers are either made by or made for Century . Then the rifle is assembled with a parts kit , on the Century receiver .

ALWAYS , ALWAYS be suspicious of a rifle that Century assembles !

Some work OK , some do not . I could go into more detail , but I have done so over & over . So I will not do so again , except on request .

God bless
Wyr