[Pred]

True, very true.

Quote:       Originally Posted by burd1959

how are we to carry all this stuff

A bug out bag should have enough supplies in it to last you about 72 hours, either long enough for help to arrive, or long enough for you to walk and find help. So really a large backpack should do the trick. Of course with like the handgun and extra mags you can always keep the handgun in a holster in the bag, so that way when you leave you can take it out and wear it.

[7mmag6]

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[CrazyIvan]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Big Dog

As important as what to carry is, where to go? The basic "Bug out to the hills" idea will be shared by a few thousand other evacuees. Make sure to have a realistic destination in mind. Otherwise, the folks living in those hills see you as just another locust among the swarm! Maybe we should have a "SURVIVAL forum"? This could be a very popular topic.

I sent an email about 2 months ago to my close friends and family with map locations where to meet, evacuation procedures and timelines as well as general preparedness ideas. Without divulging a lot of information, it includes a meeting location in Wyoming and continuing on to a small town along the Canadian border.

[Pred]

While I'm just now starting out, I ordered two blankets the other day online. One is an Italian wool blanket and the other is a Swiss wool blanket. They are those 5lbs surplus blankets from Cheaper Than Dirt. Both got great reviews, besides, if nothing else I wanted one for the car just in case.

[CrazyIvan]

Here is the website I got some of my stuff from. They are fairly priced and have a lot of products.

There is a "Survival Gear" link along the left side of the main screen. They are pretty good.

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[Big Dog]

Cheaper Than Dirt and Sportsman's Guide have some good gear for decent prices. Even Wally World has some good deals if you look a bit.
Just be smart - too many folks pack way too much junk - makes for a heavy bag with less usefulness! Don't forget a roll of TP.

[Oxford]

All good ideas listed previously. But...I'm not running away from my home base. Since I live in Kansas City, which is close to the geographical center of the mainland USA, I expect to have more time before the SHTF than some parts of the U.S.

However, if I take as much "stuff" in my "bug out bag" as I take to my deer stand when hunting bambi, I'd be in trouble. I think I'll just ride out the storm, barricade myself and my family inside my home with my guns and normal food supplies, and forget about hitting the highways which would be jammed anyway from others heading to the Ozarks of southern Missouri or the Colorado Rocky mountains.

[7mmag6]

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[frozentorso]

I'm with Dale. I know a clown that prepared for Y2K by stocking up on everything from 2 generators, to a years MRE's for 4, to ammo, etc. and putting it all in his barn on a big hill in the country. Luckily for me, he has worse luck than Bill Clinton. Me and Mr. High-Power and his partner Mr. Bushmaster will get there a half hour before he does.
LOL

[Mooseman684]

I'm not bugging out from "Fort Rich" up here... food, clothing, shelter, water, and LOTS of ammo and related supplies would be very hard to mobilize in any kind of quantity to move anywhere and then you are dependant on mechanical and fuel logistics. Being Mobile makes you vulnerable to multiple risk attacks from many sources. (Unless you own a tank or armored car!)My home is my castle....and my powder is dry !!!
Rich

[maarten221]

Well,
I live in Atlanta, and the S has already hit the F. But that is besides the point.

Here is my kit in a Camelback Talon bag. I keep the bladder empty, since I don't want the water getting old sitting behind the passenger seat in my truck. I keep a few bottles water in the truck, so should the need arise, I can fill up and go.

The kit:
1 first aid kit that includes snake bite kit and iodine pills.
Keltec Sub 2k and 4 30 round magazines.
2 extra loaded magazines for P3AT
Buck knife
SAS survival tin (matches, compass - that kinda stuff)
Wire saw
4 MRE's
1 small roll of baling wire
3 emergency blankets
Water purifying tabs
ESBIT stove a fuel tabs
mess kit

and nature supplies the TP - just make sure it is not poison oak/ivy!

This isn't a large kit, but it should be able to keep me going for some time. I'm not used toliving in the bush here in the US, but I have done it quite a bit back in Africa.
You'd be surprised what you can eat when you get hungry enough. Grasshoppers, ants, snakes, lizards, birds, rats, squirrels, berries, bulbs etc.
Anyways, the kit is small, not comaflaged - just OD and it is light. There is enough food, water tabs and gear in it to provide for my immediate family for a week if I ration and do some additional hunting and foraging.
I love the Keltec for this purpose. I still want to get a silencer for it and keep 1 magazine of subsonic ammo in the kit. It is small, light and will make short work of anything up to deer size game with +p ammo - it also allows me to be more lethal out further than my sidearm can reach. If only they would chamber the kel-tec in .357SIG or 7.62x25Tok!!!
As for a pistol, P3AT all the way! Never take it off except when in the crapper , bed or shower.

[CrazyIvan]

I have a question for you guys who say: "I'm not buggin' out, I am staying in my castle."

What do you plan on doing of your city/town is hit by a nuclear, biological or dirty bomb? At some point, you will need to leave to avoid the lasting fallout. Where do you plan on going, how do you plan on getting there and what do you plan on taking with you?

Even if you can stay at your house, is that such a good idea? All of the vast-disasters that have happened have resulted in disease, violence and death. I never understood why people flocked to the cities where these things prevailed. If it were me and there was a mass disease...I would retreat to the wilderness where I would be away from the big cities where people flock and get sick...NOT ME MAN!

[bigandrich44]

AGreed Ivan. Good thing my grandparents live out in the brush, have tons and I mean TONS of reloading supplies and ammo, 52 rifles, shotguns, and pistols, (hes a collector) and their own generator and water well. Not to mention, hes got tons of deer and cattle all around, farms, roads, ATV 's dirtbikes, and a jeep. SO we could hold out pretty long in there.

[educatedhorse_2]

I am just wondering how close we are to really needing BO bags.

Now don't get me wrong I am well prepared to stay or leave which ever the case.

I have three diffrent bags one for each car and one at the house.

[Big Dog]

Whether to BI or BO - it's an option depending on circumstances. Many will stay put initially - having supplies and gear for a longer-term power-outage or social-collapse situation. If it gets bad enough to need to GO, then it's grab the BOB and go!
If the Cat Five is coming, then BO NOW!

The trick is to NOT get stuck on the highway surroubded by a million stalled and starving sheeple.

[educatedhorse_2]

That is one of the reasons I make my home in Wyoming.
I really don't have to worry about crowded roads when the times comes.

[CrazyIvan]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Big Dog

Whether to BI or BO - it's an option depending on circumstances. Many will stay put initially - having supplies and gear for a longer-term power-outage or social-collapse situation. If it gets bad enough to need to GO, then it's grab the BOB and go! If the Cat Five is coming, then BO NOW! The trick is to NOT get stuck on the highway surroubded by a million stalled and starving sheeple.

I can't believe how people line up on the highway when they are trying to evacuate. Would I seriously be the first one to kick it into 4-wheel drive and drive through the fields to get the HECK out!?

I couldn't believe those people in Florida a few years ago when they were evacuating from a hurricane, they showed pictures of them all lined up on the highway. I guess it would be hard to drive off-road there with the swamps and lowlands, but once you get inland more...heck, why not? Is anyone going to put me in prison for trying not to die?

[bigandrich44]

Yeah, thats what I thought. Trust me, that jeep we own will probably be the vehicle of choice to get to my grandparents farm first.

[maarten221]

Quote:       Originally Posted by CrazyIvan

Is anyone going to put me in prison for trying not to die?

More than likely, yes!

I agree though. Stay off the highways....go offroad and get the heck outta dodge!

[bigandrich44]

But, have every1 in the car with a rifle/pistol/shotgun, and make sure they know how to use it. Thats a car jacker deterrent. Looks like your heading to Iraq lol.