Old 12-28-2006, 12:46 AM   #1
Site Founder
 
Chris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 5,963
Blog Entries: 5
Water Filtration

What is a good way to filter water if you don't happen to bring all the water you should have on a trip but are near a river or freshwater source?

I have seen a lot of contraptions that will get the job done, but wanted to see what you guys recommended.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 04:14 AM   #2
Firearm Zealot
 
Despoiler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: The Occupied Territory of California
Posts: 2,352
There are a number of portable hand pumps avail at most sporting goods stores, that will filter out most contaminates, but not all filters will filter out harmful bacteria like Giardia. The cheaper models under $100.00 recommend that you pre-treat the water with iodine or chlorine pills then filter, the top of the line usually will filter out the Giardia with out pretreatment but they tend to be in the $200.00+ range for a good one. Be sure to check out the cost of replacement filters.

I have seen some new filters that are using UV light to kill bacteria and so forth but I have no experience with them. If any one knows about these please let me know what you think of them.

Now if a emergency you can drink water from a running stream and in most cases there is very little chance of getting sick, I did this for years before I found out about Giardia and I never got sick from it. Of course there is always boiling the water and draining it thought a simple filter, like a tee shirt, if you have those avail to you. One idea I have picked up but it did not seem real practical is to dig a hole, a well, about 10 feet away from a water source and the soil will filter out all of the impurities.
Despoiler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2006, 06:20 AM   #3
Firearm Zealot
 
Big Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: North Florida - the Gunshine State!
Posts: 15,418
Out in the field, I've used a filtration bottle to filter the water then refill my canteens. The advantage was, we stood on the bridge over the creek and lowered the filter bottle into the water on a line, then pulled it up. Didn't have to get wet, which would have happened trying to use my pump filter.
This water was clear and flowing quickly - still doesn't preclude there being a dead carcass upstream . . .
But I didn't get sick.

Using the purification tablets would be extra insurance.
Filtration and purification aren't the same thing.
__________________
USAF - 1976 - 1980
USN - 1980 - 1986
FLDOE - 1990 - present
Big Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2006, 10:39 AM   #4
Firearm Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 217
Boil and filter. I've only recently started using filtration tabs.
Get a t-shirt or some other way. If you have some river sand and a soda can, cut the top off the can, punch a small hole in the bottom of the can, then fill it 3/4 with sand. Now slowly pour your water over the sand. It is slow, but it filters most of the muck out. Still need to boil it. Balarzia (sp?) will still get through that one - among others.
maarten221 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2006, 09:50 PM   #5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Marthas Vineyard
Posts: 2
water

I heard that filling soda bottles(clear plastic only) and leaving in the sun for a day kills bacteria. Lay on it's side in full sun, no colored or milky plastic.Remove lables. I'm sorry I can't remember where I heard or read this fact.
Something about UV rays going thru the clear bottle. Maybe this could be a finshing touch to filtering.
Of course, two liter plastic bottles are cheap, light, easy to get.
sjogun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2006, 02:47 AM   #6
Firearm Zealot
 
just_a_car's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 4,274
Though out of many people's price ranges, I can tell you from personal experience in working in the Aerospace Industry on "Life Saving Devices, Self-Inflating" (read: Inflatable slides and rafts) that the desalinator/purifier they use in the survival kits is the following Survivor-06: WELCOME TO READY MADE RESOURCESs

Being that $600 is out of most of our range, this is just a reference, but if you want something that's "good enough for the FAA", then that's your item. Though, for the amount of water you produce for the amount of sweat you produce in working that hand pump, you might as well drink the seawater, go crazy from sodium poisoning and die. We had to service those things as an overhaul procedure and they wore your arms out like nobody's business. They were certainly effective, though. We had a little gauge that could tell how much salinity was in a sample of water and 90% of the time these things were good, and 99% were darn close. Only the really old ones didn't work too well. Also, for the ones that weren't properly filled with anti-biotic solution, you'd get nasty mold-like growth in the tubes; B.E.R. to those! (Beyond Economical Repair).
just_a_car is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2007, 03:58 PM   #7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1
I Still Use A Filtering Straw
BAREBACK 35 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2007, 06:58 PM   #8
Firearm Enthusiast
 
Choco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 199
Th US Army Survival Guide shows some good,yet simple ways to filter water.
Choco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2007, 07:28 PM   #9
Firearm Zealot
 
Full MeTal Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Southeast Texas
Posts: 2,013
We have used personal size filter bottles. Pardon the description. We used these on The Boundry Waters Wilderness Canoe Area. The water up there was already clean.
Unscrew the top. Fill to line. Screw filter top back in. Purged. Squeeze bottle and drink from the "straw" or tube.
Worked great.
2nd Suggestion: Drink plenty of fresh brewed Coffee!
__________________
Guns and cameras don't mix
Full MeTal Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2007, 10:31 PM   #10
Firearm Zealot
 
Mooseman684's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Alaska Wilderness. Master Gunsmith
Posts: 17,245
Water can carry many organisms and toxins as well as organic chemicals.
Boiling and straining will kill parasites and algae and bacteria after 20 minutes, but it will not remove toxins or organic chemicals. Running clear mountain streams from snowpack are the cleanest if there are no Beaver dams upstream, but Boiling will kill beaver fever/ Giardia. (Alaska has lots of Beavers !) A reverse Osmosis unit will turn seawater / questionable water into pure drinking water, but they are spendy units. Boiled Water poured thru a Brita charcoal filter is a great way to be safe.
I dont believe the post about leaving a clear bottle of water in the sun to purify because I tried it and algae grew fast turning green inside !
A neat trick for pure water is to dig a small hole, put a cup in the middle of it and cover with a piece of clear plastic like saran wrap and secure it around the edges, take a small stone and place in the middle of the plastic over the cup to form a drip point...The sun will do the rest (ie. a Solar Still )!
Rich
__________________
[I]You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!:( [/I]
Mooseman684 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2007, 08:28 AM   #11
Firearm Aficionado
 
Rex Kramer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 754
Quote:       Originally Posted by Mooseman684 View Post
Boiled Water poured thru a Brita charcoal filter is a great way to be safe.
The Brita is OK, but a solid carbon block filter (Multi Pure) offers sub-micron filtration. A portable draw through version is available.
HTH ~
__________________
Google >> M14HDW.US EBR KIT
Rex Kramer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2007, 07:20 PM   #12
Firearm Zealot
 
Deersniper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 8,649
Lightbulb Burke

The Burke water filter is the standard. They make sport containers. Go to a ditch, filter some and off you go. They even take out fluoride. Or an old still they made whiskey in for distilled water.

Last edited by Deersniper; 02-02-2007 at 07:23 PM.
Deersniper is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2007, 04:15 AM   #13
Firearm Zealot
 
billy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca
Posts: 23,063
if you are only worried about organisms ie. guardia ect. household bleach the directions are on the bottle. or at least they used to be
billy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2007, 09:45 AM   #14
Firearm Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Luis Valley Colorado
Posts: 336
I have a ceramic MSR, and had never failed me. Had it a long time now, and I have had to use it to pull water from this little dirt puddle that was so green with mosquito's and little wiggle worms moving around. I was without water, and was about 10 miles back into a road, or civilization,
In the middle of the National Forest with two pack horses, and a fire ban in effect, and they are about too shut the forest down because it was so dry...The horses found the water to be satisfactory. But everyother animal had been to this mud hole.

I had to stop and clean the filter twice before getting one bottle of pure water, because the filter would just plug up with green algae.

In Arizona, it's like that mastercard commercial,,,, a taste of clean pure water, priceless,,,,,,,,, drinking water from a tank where bugs and stagnet water stand,,,, Deadly....
those Iodine pills in a canteen.... I have been out there with no water for a day, and tried the iodine pills in the unclean water, and man you spend more time throwing up the water, than you do drinking it. and you will never forget the taste.... even years later..
Spurzmaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2007, 10:16 AM   #15
Firearm Zealot
 
NRAJOE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Toledo,OH
Posts: 20,206
What if all you have to drink is urine?

Filters for that?
__________________
U.S. Army
1976-1979
237th Combat Engineers
Heilbronn, Germany


Patron Life Member NRA
NRAJOE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2007, 11:02 AM   #16
Firearm Zealot
 
billy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca
Posts: 23,063
Quote:       Originally Posted by NRAJOE View Post
What if all you have to drink is urine?

Filters for that?
koolade!
billy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2007, 02:23 PM   #17
Firearm Enthusiast
 
N2914J's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Little Rock, AR
Posts: 397
I use a PUR Hand-Pump Filter. It's worked great so far. My Grandfather used to spend a lot of time in Montanna, and when he passed away, we found about 20 of these units (plus dozens of fly fishing rods, vests, float tubes, and thousands of hand-tied flies). I'm not sure how expensive they are, but I've used it more than once and not gotten sick. If you were to ever find yourself stuck in the woods, without a filtration unit, the best thing to do, if possible, is to find a small spring, and try to find the point where it is flowing out of the ground.
__________________
God Bless America

Last edited by N2914J; 02-03-2007 at 02:25 PM.
N2914J is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2007, 04:37 PM   #18
Firearm Zealot
 
Stopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kansass
Posts: 2,215
I have a First Need Deluxe water purifying system. More expensive than the others but purifies water, removing viruses, cysts and the like.
__________________
They should have stopped at "Congress shall make no law"
Stopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Gun & Game - The Friendliest Gun Forum on the Internet > General > The Powder Keg

Tags
filtration, water

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ten things that will get you killed while bugging in Pred The Powder Keg 4 09-21-2007 12:01 PM
Water and Beer Education Oxford The Powder Keg 3 03-31-2006 09:48 AM
Cold Water accually cleans dishes? Taurusist The Powder Keg 4 03-19-2006 04:04 PM
"Bulletproof Water" Logansdad The Powder Keg 18 01-06-2006 09:36 AM
Microwave water hazzard. Myth? jerry The Powder Keg 15 05-20-2004 12:58 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:54 AM.




Recent Discussions

Connect with us!
Advertisement



"It don't cost nuthin' to be nice." -- Mike West