Old 02-06-2007, 10:59 PM   #1
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Justice Department Attorney Defends Firings Of Prosecutors

You have gotta read this...I don't know how to take this.


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Schumer said at the start of today's hearing. "I have watched, with growing worry, as the department has increasingly based hiring on political affiliation."

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Old 02-07-2007, 12:11 AM   #2
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Schumer said at the start of today's hearing. "I have watched, with growing worry, as the department has increasingly based hiring on political affiliation."
I take it as just one more example of the Bush bunch politicizing everything they touch.

Look at what they did to FEMA: took it from a well-respected, professional organization to a way station for political hacks on their way to high-paying lobbying jobs, and destroyed its effectiveness.

Look at the admiral's daughter (36-year-old Julie Myers) he appointed as head of ICE. Her special qualification for being the head of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (a job you'd think would be filled by a seasoned law enforcement professional)? She had been "special assistant to the president for presidential personnel."

Look at the Provisional Authority that was put together to run Iraq under Paul Bremer. The guy in charge of hiring asked candidates whether they had voted for Bush, whether they opposed abortion, and a lot of other questions having absolutely nothing to do with expertise in the Middle East. They put a recent college graduate with no studies or experience in banking or accounting in charge of the Department of Finance; on his resume he listed his favorite job before that as ice cream truck driver.

Bush never seems to have mastered the concept of appointing people because they know what they're doing, instead of because their politics are right or they raised a lot of money for political campaigns.
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I find the actions, and comments, of A. gonzalez more troubling with each quote. I have come to the conclusion he was a horrible choice and probably, like the rest of the bushit pack of swine, belongs in jail.......he's little better than butch reno was under/over klinton.
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:31 AM   #4
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"WE THE PEOPLE", too, "THEY THE PEOPLE, WE THE GOVERNMENT".

I've no experience in icecream truck driving, but I could probably run the dept of finance. Sure, all you guys on the G&G will be my staff.

Troy2000 you are in charge, if anyone needs me, I'll be over at the t-t bar.

too bad the power of appointments is given to a power with no point.
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"WE THE PEOPLE", too, "THEY THE PEOPLE, WE THE GOVERNMENT".
I've no experience in icecream truck driving, but I could probably run the dept of finance. Sure, all you guys on the G&G will be my staff.
Troy2000 you are in charge, if anyone needs me, I'll be over at the t-t bar.
too bad the power of appointments is given to a power with no point.
I'll do my best to make you proud.

Ahh, Rufe? Could you step over here for a minute? I have a little job for you...
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:19 AM   #6
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Troy2000 will have to take over my position,

I just resigned to go work over at the nuclear regulatory commission.

Hey what do I know about nuclear power, other than it makes the "elevators go up and down", and makes the lights go on, and off".

Rufe,

when you're finished with Troy2000's job, you're being moved over to Gonzales Job. Something about he got into trouble with one of his intern's.

Chris is going to be moved over to the ATF Head.

Troylaplante, you will be white house press release..

Speak up, if you want a special, or a cush job in government.

Anyone else want a job. I think we could force resignations of a few people.

oh yeah, I need a special elite force for a small little biddy detail overseas. Any volunteers. Step forward.

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Old 02-07-2007, 12:06 PM   #7
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I never heard of"Free Internet Press".Is this some blog organization?? I would never believe anything Chuck Schumer and Dianne Finestein,two of the greatest enemy,s of the second ammendment,have to say.Why isnt this on the regular news??? It sounds like a newsworthy item but I havent heard about it except here. samuel.
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:03 PM   #8
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You don't believe the biased liberal media anyway, samuel

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I never heard of"Free Internet Press".Is this some blog organization?? I would never believe anything Chuck Schumer and Dianne Finestein,two of the greatest enemy,s of the second ammendment,have to say.Why isnt this on the regular news??? It sounds like a newsworthy item but I havent heard about it except here. samuel.
Why should it matter to you if it's on the regular news or not? But here it is, anyway:

McClatchy Washington Bureau | 02/06/2007 | Official denies prosecutors were ousted for political reasons

6 U.S. attorneys resigned for reasons tied to performance, Senate is told

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Metro -- Lawmakers' letters led to Lam's ouster

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

LA Daily News - U.S. attorneys' dismissals probed by Senate panel

Justice Department official denies firings were political - The Boston Globe

etc, ad infinitum

The basic point is that a little-noticed provision in the Patriot Act enables Gonzales to appoint Attorneys to serve indefinitely, without having them confirmed by the Senate, as had always been the case before. And he seems to be taking full advantage of the loophole.

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I just resigned to go work over at the nuclear regulatory commission.
Not so fast; First: did you vote for Bush? Yes! okay; Second: will you turn a blind eye while 20 illegals sneak past you into the country? Yes! okay; Thirdly: will you blindly do whatever Bush says do, no matter how many constitutional issues it violates? Yes; welcome aboard Spurz.
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Old 02-07-2007, 05:04 PM   #10
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Troy2000:Why should it matter whether it is in the regular news? Because I am an American. Because I want to hear it from someone besides bloggers. Because I believe very little in the regular news and nothing from either side in blogs. I read the articles one by one except Washington Post which I didnt see anything on it. If someone snuck something by these senators they werent doing their job as usual.Only the liberal liars like Spector-R,Schumer-secular progressive,and Feinstein-Californian appointed by lovers of the U.N.are trying to do much.And I agree that most liberal judges apointed by Clinton dont have any qualification except their great love for the U.N. and secular progressivenes.But that is only my opinion.It is also my opinion these senators and prosicuters will be the cause and means to trash the second ammendment,inforce national registeration,and confiscate your firearms.So embrace and love them as you will and I will dread them,fear them,and hate them.We are both Americans and have the right to support anti-second ammendment or fear the present liberal congerssional power as we choose.And I will always support your right to love these anti,s even tho I dissagree and fear them. samuel.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:59 PM   #11
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Troy2000:Why should it matter whether it is in the regular news? Because I am an American. Because I want to hear it from someone besides bloggers. Because I believe very little in the regular news and nothing from either side in blogs. I read the articles one by one except Washington Post which I didnt see anything on it. If someone snuck something by these senators they werent doing their job as usual.Only the liberal liars like Spector-R,Schumer-secular progressive,and Feinstein-Californian appointed by lovers of the U.N.are trying to do much.And I agree that most liberal judges apointed by Clinton dont have any qualification except their great love for the U.N. and secular progressivenes.But that is only my opinion.It is also my opinion these senators and prosicuters will be the cause and means to trash the second ammendment,inforce national registeration,and confiscate your firearms.So embrace and love them as you will and I will dread them,fear them,and hate them.We are both Americans and have the right to support anti-second ammendment or fear the present liberal congerssional power as we choose.And I will always support your right to love these anti,s even tho I dissagree and fear them. samuel.

Can you explain how anything you said relates to Gonzales firing those attorneys and replacing them for what seems to be political reasons? That's what we were talking about...

Generic swipes at liberals, UN lovers, secular progressives, Clinton-appointed judges, etc., aren't helpful to the subject at hand. It's like talking to a revival preacher: no matter whether you're talking about the weather, dinner or the end of the world, he manages to drag Satan into the conversation.
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Can you explain how anything you said relates to Gonzales firing those attorneys and replacing them for what seems to be political reasons? That's what we were talking about...

Generic swipes at liberals, UN lovers, secular progressives, Clinton-appointed judges, etc., aren't helpful to the subject at hand. It's like talking to a revival preacher: no matter whether you're talking about the weather, dinner or the end of the world, he manages to drag Satan into the conversation.
I was answering your question as to why I wanted to see it in the news instead of a blog.As to swipes at liberals,U.N. lovers secular progressives,clinton appointed judges,etc as I stated it is your choice to back them or not but as for me,I fear and hate them which is my choice. As to how it relates,the Clinton appointee,s are famous for releasing law violators and refusing to prosicute violators,so it is my opinion that the justice system is trying to weed these prosicuters out.I dont claim to be well enough informed to make a judgement as to whether this is good or bad,only that I personally would want to hear both sides not just one blog on a G&G forum.I hope you dont denie me that right.I cant believe something that is really as anti-democracy as this sounds wouldnt be in the mainstream news big time.And if the people complaining think it is the way ir was stated they should bring hearings and then the public could be informed which is all I want.So far it just sounds like some more bush bashing. samuel.
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Now, I am affraid to respond.

Guys, it is happening whether we like it or not. It doesn't matter if it was Clinton appointing special preferrences, or Bush's cabinet appointing special priveledges.

I don't like either side of the political fence doing it, because it rails the system around another corner that shows force of power, and control. I don't think we have much say in playing their game and opposing an appointment.

The reason I posted it, because it didn't make (cough)news network, or the (Coughz) network either.

Orginally, I didn't know how to take it either.
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To me Spurz, the important part of the story is that it's another example of the Bush Administration trying to cut Congress and the Courts out of the loop. Some influential members of the administration first served in Nixon's administration, and they have a vision of a strong president and executive branch, at the expense of the courts and Congress. They honestly believe that once a president is elected, he pretty much has a mandate to do whatever he wants for four years without interference from the other two branches of government. Some people refer to that as the "Imperial Presidency."

Samuel, one of the prosecutors who got fired was in San Diego. She was the one who investigated and prosecuted Duke Cunningham (a Republican), and sent him to prison for bribery and selling his office, and she was continuing her investigation to see if others were mixed up in it. I personally believe she got fired for doing her job, not for refusing to do it.

And unless you choose to believe that the newspaper-run sites I listed were all lying about what happened in a Senate hearing, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty publicly admitted that the prosecutor in Little Rock was removed without cause, simply so one of Karl Rove's former aides could have the job.

Why do you think this would "be in the mainstream news big time?" It isn't the sort of simpleminded, sexy topic that's easy to do front-page headlines about. But if you didn't notice, all the links I gave you were to major newspapers, or to news organizations which own multiple newspapers.
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One reason the justice system is broken is prosicuters only going after what intrests them or their affiliates and holding other cases out on the pretext that "it is still under investigation".They do this in small countys and as in this case,at the top federal cases.This is what I mean about the justice dept.getting rid of prosicuters who wont prosicute certain cases.It is also true with the news.They make big news out what fits their agenda and either dont print or put stories they dont like on page 19.I have seen as many coverups one way as the other and dont trust either politicians or news agencys.And blogs are not even worth reading. samuel
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Now, I am affraid to respond.
Guys, it is happening whether we like it or not. It doesn't matter if it was Clinton appointing special preferrences, or Bush's cabinet appointing special priveledges.
I don't like either side of the political fence doing it, because it rails the system around another corner that shows force of power, and control. I don't think we have much say in playing their game and opposing an appointment.
The reason I posted it, because it didn't make (cough)news network, or the (Coughz) network either.
Orginally, I didn't know how to take it either.
We all got owned. Maybe, at the last minute, someone good will appear and save us from the globalists! ...or not. Guess we better learn how to bow.
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