Old 03-11-2007, 04:13 AM   #1
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The original proposed wording of the 2nd Amendment

The original text of what was to become the Second Amendment, as brought to the floor during the first session of the first Congress of the U.S. House of Representatives was:

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country; but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person."

I can see why they changed and tightened it. On top of the excess verbiage and the combination of the right to bear arms in the same amendment with the right to be a conscientous objector, they seem to be using the term "bear arms" in two separate ways: first as the people's right to personally own and use arms, and then as a term meaning military service.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:25 AM   #2
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does that look like a way of saying only an army needs guns?
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:30 AM   #3
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That's the way some people interpret "bear arms," Lng Rng

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does that look like a way of saying only an army needs guns?
They claim the Second Amendment only gives people the right to have and use weapons (keep and bear arms) when they're actively serving in a militia (today, the National Guard), because according to them "bearing arms" just means military service of some sort.

Lest there be any doubt: I don't agree.
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Old 03-11-2007, 07:59 AM   #4
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To me the second amendment states that we have the right as individules to own arms but if we do own arms we should be prepaired to use them in defence of this nation.This would give us the right to posess any type firearm the military posesses.This makes sense because we might be required to defend the nation against a military takeover. samuel.
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Old 03-11-2007, 08:35 AM   #5
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The one thing that puts the lie to the Anitgunner idea that the right is not individual, is that taken as a whole, ALL mention of "the people" in every other right enumerated in the Bill Of Rights is taken to be individual, but the gungrabbers only take the Second to mean a State right, not individual. Would the Framers be that inconsistent? I don't think so.
Add to that, they try to claim the right pertains to the National Guard - which came into existence some 160 years AFTER the Bill was written. Even the Framers weren't that prescient!
Now, we have the DC Circuit Court setting a very GOOD pecedent, in declaring the RKBA as an INDIVIDUAL right! Hoepfully, this will get SCOTUS off their derrierres and do the same.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:18 AM   #6
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This is what the 2nd Amendment means as it was written, and why it was written the way it was.

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/blo...rid=32&entry=3
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:15 AM   #7
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I was thuroughly motivated by that.....until I saw the legalities at the end.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:09 PM   #8
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Huh?
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:54 PM   #9
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GAG i read too fast. I read this part:Copyright by Author. Permission given to distribute without monetary compensation.

And thought it said this:
Copyright by Author. Permission not given to distribute without monetary compensation. Please link to the original GunandGame article in all online postings. Submissions to any publication must be approved by author. Contact author at BattleRifleG3@hotmail.com.


Normally I try to read more carefully but this was not one of those moments. My appologies.
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Gotcha. Share informally as you like, but if you're going to copy and paste on another forum then include the link to the original G&G posting so people know where it came from. And if you want to send it to a publication just talk to me and we'll make sure it's credited properly.
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Old 03-15-2007, 03:00 AM   #11
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Nice Blog BRG!
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