04-28-2007, 11:48 AM
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He's probably right when he says that's what it would take.
I think he's dead wrong when he asserts it COULD be done that way; it would never fly.
In my opinion, he's saying disarming the American public is almost impossible. I'm just not sure he knew that's what he was saying...
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04-28-2007, 11:57 AM
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#22 | | Firearm Zealot
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troylaplante, he has a right to his thoughts and he has obviously put a lot of thought into this. The problem is, he put his thoughts out in front of millions of people at a time when many are just looking for an excuse to disarm you and I. If he isn't advocating implementing it why did he publish the article? My guess is so others could see it and work towards implementing it themselves. This is sort of like saying Bin Laden should go free because he was just the author of 9-11 not an actual participant.
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04-28-2007, 01:00 PM
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#23 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by toolman | If he isn't advocating implementing it why did he publish the article? | To point out the magnitude of the undertaking and the futility thereof. |
My guess is so others could see it and work towards implementing it themselves.
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This is sort of like saying Bin Laden should go free because he was just the author of 9-11 not an actual participant.
| The two do not at all equate.
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Originally Posted by troy2000 | I think he's dead wrong when he asserts it COULD be done that way; it would never fly. | I agree that it would never happen that way. It is, however, the train of thought necessary and prevalent amongst his fellow anti-gunners.
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04-28-2007, 01:03 PM
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#24 | | Firearm Zealot
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Some Years ago, a study was done by a University funded by Govt money and it was on gun control in the United States. The result of the study stated that if ALL Guns magically disappeared at midnite one night in the United States , that by 12 noon , 12 hours later someone would have Built a gun and killed somebody with it...so in 30 days there would be thousands of Homemade guns back in the hands of Americans.It would be like trying to outlaw Hamburgers and french fries because they are unhealthy for you...
What Mr. Simpson fails to note in his Idea for Gun control is the economic devastation this would cause, not only in losses of Federal Taxes related to firearms, but to the extent of overloading the court system with "the new Criminals" Prison overcrowding , Overloading the Morgues with the Bodies of "special squad" police officers and Americans who decide to fight it out, and the outbreak of crime that would descend on an un-armed populace , so it would be opening Pandora's Box. Also, the Constitution would have to be abolished totally as well as States Constitutions Hence, America would be no more...
If Mr. Simpson wrote this article to show how Stupid and Impossible it would be to disarm America, he should have stated that in his article,Which he did NOT !
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04-28-2007, 02:44 PM
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#25 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by pball942 | One flaw I can see in his plan, in Kansas I can hunt rabbit, p-pogs, yotes all year. | Your weapon will have to be on the approved list. Not to mention the fees required to provide security for them year round. I also imagine that you could only check out one weapon at a time.
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04-28-2007, 03:17 PM
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#26 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I dont care what the h*ll happens to me they are not taking my Garand I do not care if its to a museum or to an armory I will not give my rifle up. Yes that's about how America would have to disarm but before that 3 month period is up I know a lot of people would be up in arms.
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04-28-2007, 06:43 PM
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#27 | | Firearm Zealot
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04-28-2007, 07:13 PM
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#28 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Mooseman684 | Some Years ago, a study was done by a University funded by Govt money and it was on gun control in the United States. The result of the study stated that if ALL Guns magically disappeared at midnite one night in the United States , that by 12 noon , 12 hours later someone would have Built a gun and killed somebody with it...so in 30 days there would be thousands of Homemade guns back in the hands of Americans.It would be like trying to outlaw Hamburgers and french fries because they are unhealthy for you...
What Mr. Simpson fails to note in his Idea for Gun control is the economic devastation this would cause, not only in losses of Federal Taxes related to firearms, but to the extent of overloading the court system with "the new Criminals" Prison overcrowding , Overloading the Morgues with the Bodies of "special squad" police officers and Americans who decide to fight it out, and the outbreak of crime that would descend on an un-armed populace , so it would be opening Pandora's Box. Also, the Constitution would have to be abolished totally as well as States Constitutions Hence, America would be no more...
If Mr. Simpson wrote this article to show how Stupid and Impossible it would be to disarm America, he should have stated that in his article,Which he did NOT ! | you forgot that millions of americans would lose their jobs, lots of people work at gun factorys, and at firearm related jobs. also lots of companys would lose gun clients like spring companys and metal companys.
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04-28-2007, 07:37 PM
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#29 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Roger That Zephri!!!!
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05-06-2007, 01:57 AM
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#30 | | Firearm Zealot
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I just loved the brilliance of his thoughts on making sure no one hunted with any rocket launchers, anti-tank missles or explosive ordnance.
That's real good thinking, seeing as how that's such a problem these days....
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05-06-2007, 11:02 AM
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#31 | | Firearm Zealot
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Brilliant or moronic - it's all in the eye of the beholder.
What people of his ilk (I'll consider him among the Anitgun crowd) fail to realize is that the use of guns in crime is not the causative factor - the criminal merely uses the most efficient tool at hand. So, take his (and our!) guns away - total elimination overnight. What happens?
Mr. Criminal uses a knife, and axe, a ballbat, a chain - anything can be used as a weapon. The crime rate will continue - and the results may well be more brutal than the use of guns. Ever see a skull crushed by blunt trauma? Not what I'd like to have happen.
So, his solution to crime would be no solution in the end. He just removes a symptom of the disease, not the disease itself. Where there is man, there WILL be crime, guns or no guns.
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05-06-2007, 12:42 PM
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#32 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Thats it!...We're moving to Canada.
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05-07-2007, 11:02 AM
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#33 | | Retired Moderator
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People should stop talking like his proposal is at all realistic. Treat it like the nonsense that it is, because it isn't going to happen.
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05-07-2007, 11:15 PM
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#34 | | Firearm Zealot
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| When I joined the Navy and everytime I re-enlisted during my career I took an oath to Support and Defend the Constituition of the United States, an dyet though I am retired my service isn't over. I believe this individual to be a threat to be dealt with and should be. The very concept of police sweeps to confiscate legally owned firearms is beyond the very worse of fears about a police state. Warrantless and unconstituitional on their very face this is an affront to every serviceman and woman who has ever put themselves in harms way to defend our country. This man must read the 2nd amendment carefully and then learn why the founding fathers felt it so very important that it was second ONLY to the freedom of speech! |
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05-08-2007, 05:17 AM
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#35 | | Firearm Zealot
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Too many Politicians seek the quick&dirty 'bandaid solution', instead of tackling the root cause. But, a bandaid doesn't help a massive hemorage in society.
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05-08-2007, 09:53 AM
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#36 | | Firearm Zealot
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I look for more gun-restrictive laws after the elections,no matter who gets in,but the democrats,you expect it,the Republicans,something new!
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#37 | | Firearm Zealot
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Since Nixon, I think both parties have been working together to a mutual goal, slowly becoming one in the same. Then they throw crap out there to divide us and avert our attention, like the Shaivo deal...let's make everyone who has nothing to do with it make a decision, good one. Gay marriage...who cares who loves who? As long as it is love. Racism, blah...I am sooo over it, I wish other people would get over it too...both givers and takers.
They throw all this B.S. in our face so they can distract us from their real agendas. Their real agenda to enslave us as a population. Their real agenda to take away our rights as Americans, LEGAL Americans. Their real agenda to disarm us so that they may better control us.
It really truely amazes me that people still think there are two sides to this story....dems & repubs are the same thing and people like this guy are their zombie force to spread their stupid propaganda. New dubb name for these guys: Zombie Force (ZB)
Zombie Force: An army of people who have offered their allegiance to the downfall of the American society. They mindlessly spout their hate, and their master's will, that being our Govt. No one knows quite why they are, but they are, nonetheless.
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05-24-2007, 06:59 AM
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#38 | | Firearm Zealot
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there are many things wrong with his idea. first of all, most LE and military are gun lovers, so who will enforce this unconstitutional law even if the government can get it through with most of the people quitting and the others being in small enough numbers that they will most likely be killed by HEAVILY armed civilians who have banded together to defend their rights. then if somehow they disarm the public, guns will simply be smuggled back in, if they can't keep cocaine out of the country, how will they keep guns out? And how many people will immigrate to Canada? I know i would, heck i may move to canada over 1022 if it passes.
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05-24-2007, 10:44 AM
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#39 | | Retired Moderator
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Dan Simpson hasn't the slightest clue about the true feelings of the majority of Americans relating to gun ownership rights in America. In other words, he is "clueless" and might have just said, "Dah!"
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05-24-2007, 12:14 PM
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#40 | | Firearm Zealot
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I just wish more people would open their minds and really look at the harsh facts about what Gun control laws haven't accomplished. They have an inverse effect on crime as can be observed by the (Confusing?) rise in crime in Australia right now and in our own cities here with ultra restrictive gun laws on the books. Restricting the ownership of guns by the lawabiding citizen has never ever resulted in a decrease in crimes of any type. Yet when Florida and Texas passed "Right to Carry" laws to allow licensed concealed carry, the result was a decrease in violent assualt type crimes accross the board.
Fact gun control DOES NOT WORK, preserving and enhancing the Rights of the Law Abiding Citizen to defend him or her self DOES WORK...
Statistical Data can be obtained and correlated by State and Federal Crime reports supporting this fact. Truth is the anti's don't care about reducing crime they just want to deprive as many possible of as many rights as possible while reserving those right to themselves.
Think on it....
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