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.22guy · 04-27-2007, 01:20 AM

Get a load of this guy's vision of America! What an IDIOT!

toledoblade.com -- The disarming of America

pball942 · 04-27-2007, 02:06 AM

What an idiot! Oh wait I guess that according to him I am since I love my firearms and will never give them up. Let alone have someone tell me when I can have access to them. One flaw I can see in his plan, in Kansas I can hunt rabbit, p-pogs, yotes all year. None the less I will never give them up. This guy really ticks me off.

HEMI · 04-27-2007, 02:44 AM

Venanzio · 04-27-2007, 04:10 AM

Hunters would be able to deposit their hunting weapons in a centrally located arsenal, heavily guarded, from which they would be able to withdraw them each hunting season upon presentation of a valid hunting license. The weapons would be required to be redeposited at the end of the season on pain of arrest. When hunters submit a request for their weapons, federal, state, and local checks would be made to establish that they had not been convicted of a violent crime since the last time they withdrew their weapons. In the process, arsenal staff would take at least a quick look at each hunter to try to affirm that he was not obviously unhinged.

this guy would have sent in a lunatic asylum and to lock more turns of key than to throw it in pacific deep sea

Big Dog · 04-27-2007, 06:13 AM

This guy is nothing short of a latter-day NAZI. What he purports the Government doing is right out of late-thirties Germany, and goes totally against what America is all about. "FREEDOM" - not when the jackboots can storm through a neighborhood searching houses with no warrant or reason!
Politicians like Mr. Simpson turn my stomach.
If this guy still has any career asperations, we need to Zumbo him - bigtime!

troylaplante · 04-27-2007, 07:43 AM

Before y'all get too bent out of shape, the article did not advocate disarmament. He went into how the nation would have to do it, should it decide to do so. And he is correct. He included the following at the end:

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That is my idea of how it could be done. The desire to do so on the part of the American people is another question altogether, but one clearly raised again by the Blacksburg tragedy.

He is correct again. The desire has been raised again, albeit a stupid desire by a minority of people.

Rufus Rhastus J · 04-27-2007, 08:51 AM

moron! Bastid!

SKS NOOB · 04-27-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus Rhastus J

moron! Bastid!

More like Socialistic, Communistic, Dictatorisic, bastid. Everything he said scares me. In history, thats what happens when a govt. gets ready to slap any one of those policital systems down. In then end, I would be sending my wife and kids to an undisclosed location and joining the rest of the people who will not take that lying down.

Sav .250 · 04-27-2007, 09:51 AM

Big Brother is waiting in the wings. In stead of going after the "crooks" he wants to relieve law-biders of their guns. Ok, put them in a safe place. '
Now, the "crooks" who don`t care anyway, will have no problem robbing anybody cause all the guns are in a "safe-place."
Kind of sounds like New Orleans. I`m guessing of course.

CrazyIvan · 04-27-2007, 10:13 AM

Scary...

I ain't handin' over my guns to nobody...nohow! If they come to get em, well, let em come, but they ain't gonna get em without a fight.

I'm not falling for any type of Nazi government re-hash B.S.

Hey fed, see the picture to the left....please read it diligently. When you attempt to disarm Americans, there will not be an America left to defend because we will all be your enemy. Think hard about the path you choose, for it may lead you to your loss of power, income and right to make decisions. We will not sit and accept your coersion, your propaganda and your ease of power over our rights. Continue down this road of communistic sentiment and you shall see the strength of the American people here at home.

Zephri · 04-27-2007, 10:36 AM

"and local checks would be made to establish that they had not been convicted of a violent crime since the last time they withdrew their weapons" well it would not be their guns any more.

"The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm."

let me add somthing to this.... and thousands of police officers would quit the force due to the abolishing of the second amendment, and hundreds more of these "Special police" would die in a hail of gun fire from citizens protecting their 2nd and 4th amendent rights.

JoeLee · 04-27-2007, 10:51 AM

Diplomat AKA Dipstick.

SKS NOOB · 04-27-2007, 10:53 AM

There is the problem. They KNOW they can't abolish the 2nd amendment. Only legistate it out of exsistence SLOWLY. Lul those of us willing to comply to contitutional sleep then crack down hard on those of us willing to stand up and defend it. It will be a civil war like nobody has ever seen and the rest of the world will see what happens when a just people stand up against an unjust government. I will not let a minority rule the majority. We have been taking this too long.

That said, fight hard in the lobbies until we have to fight in the "trenches".

Mooseman684 · 04-27-2007, 11:43 AM

With Diplomats like that, no wonder the other countries hate us !
Can You say Heil Hitler ? SS / Gestapo Police without search warrants doing house to house searches...This guy is more "Radical" than us Gun owners ever seem to be. Firearms stored for hunters and Museums for the others...
Mr. Simpson...Lay off the Crack and find another country to live in, we don't need people like you trying to enslave us to an all powerful Government.

You sir are A COMMIE and an Idiot !
Rich
(American by Birth, Gun owner by choice !!!)

ArkansasHunter · 04-27-2007, 12:02 PM

his picture says it all, LOSER

troy2000 · 04-27-2007, 12:59 PM

My main question to him is, if you had to keep your weapons locked up out of your possession except during actual hunting season, how the !@#$ would you ever get familiar enough with them to even handle them safely, much less hit anything with them?

And what about target-shooting competitions, skeet, cowboy action shooting, varmint control, etc?

Not to mention how many constitutional rights would be violated by cordoning off areas for unannounced searches; where all those trained LEO's in his "special squads" would come from; etc.

And he's dead wrong when he says this is "how it could be done."

There are umpteen legal, moral and practical reasons why it not only won't be done, but couldn't be done that way, starting with a Constitution that bars unreasonable search and seizure.

Big Dog · 04-27-2007, 07:19 PM

Who wants to bet that eventually when Mr. Hunter decides he wants to hunt, the official guardians of 'his' deer rifle decides that traffic ticket he got three years ago is reason to take his gun-owning rights from him.
Lost his job due to company down-sizing . . . uh oh, he's 'unreliable' and can't be trusted with a gun.
The ways to abuse such a very bad law would be manifold.

I'll say it again - having Politicians make gun laws is like having a diesel mechanic do your open-heart surgery. He doesn't know what he's doing and he'll get you killed!

Venanzio · 04-28-2007, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

With Diplomats like that, no wonder the other countries hate us !
Can You say Heil Hitler ? SS / Gestapo Police without search warrants doing house to house searches...This guy is more "Radical" than us Gun owners ever seem to be. Firearms stored for hunters and Museums for the others...
Mr. Simpson...Lay off the Crack and find another country to live in, we don't need people like you trying to enslave us to an all powerful Government.

You sir are A COMMIE and an Idiot !
Rich
(American by Birth, Gun owner by choice !!!)

I agree ...........my greater sorrow is that one of being been born in Europe and not in the United States

toolman · 04-28-2007, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dog

I'll say it again - having Politicians make gun laws is like having a diesel mechanic do your open-heart surgery.

I was a diesel mechanic for 15 yrs-I'd love to try open-heart surgery on this clown! I can see it now...Mr. Simpson, I don't have any ether so we're going to have to use carb cleaner to put you to sleep-or this 1/2" torque wrench applied directly to the forehead should do the trick!

troylaplante · 04-28-2007, 11:38 AM

My issue is not so much with what the man wrote as with some of the comments from y'all. First, this author is not an idiot. He is actually brilliant. He knows what it will really take to have true gun control and the elimination of private ownership rights in this nation. He is "spot on". The realization of the magnitude of the undertaking of this task and its complexity as well as methodology is not idiocy. It is brilliance. Unfortunately, it is that sort of brilliance that we face as gun owners.

I didn't read anywhere in the column where the author advocated such gun control, he just wrote about the scope of what it would take to make it happen, and about that he is correct.

Whether he actually does endorse such measures, however, is not certain. He very well may personally hold that belief. It just isn't in that column.

04-27-2007, 01:20 AM	#1
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,242	Check out this schmuck's article! Get a load of this guy's vision of America! What an IDIOT! toledoblade.com -- The disarming of America

04-27-2007, 02:06 AM	#2
pball942 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 256	What an idiot! Oh wait I guess that according to him I am since I love my firearms and will never give them up. Let alone have someone tell me when I can have access to them. One flaw I can see in his plan, in Kansas I can hunt rabbit, p-pogs, yotes all year. None the less I will never give them up. This guy really ticks me off. __________________ Running is not a plan. Running is what you do when your plan fails.

04-27-2007, 04:10 AM	#4
Venanzio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: italy near Venice Posts: 87	Hunters would be able to deposit their hunting weapons in a centrally located arsenal, heavily guarded, from which they would be able to withdraw them each hunting season upon presentation of a valid hunting license. The weapons would be required to be redeposited at the end of the season on pain of arrest. When hunters submit a request for their weapons, federal, state, and local checks would be made to establish that they had not been convicted of a violent crime since the last time they withdrew their weapons. In the process, arsenal staff would take at least a quick look at each hunter to try to affirm that he was not obviously unhinged. this guy would have sent in a lunatic asylum and to lock more turns of key than to throw it in pacific deep sea Last edited by Venanzio; 04-27-2007 at 04:24 AM.

04-27-2007, 06:13 AM	#5
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,359	This guy is nothing short of a latter-day NAZI. What he purports the Government doing is right out of late-thirties Germany, and goes totally against what America is all about. "FREEDOM" - not when the jackboots can storm through a neighborhood searching houses with no warrant or reason! Politicians like Mr. Simpson turn my stomach. If this guy still has any career asperations, we need to Zumbo him - bigtime! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

04-27-2007, 08:51 AM	#7
Rufus Rhastus J Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: West, Central Florida, Third World America Posts: 6,339 Images: 1	moron! Bastid! __________________ "They cannot be trusted.....The Romulans (our politicos) are without honor." Worf

04-27-2007, 02:44 AM	#3
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 815

04-27-2007, 09:51 AM	#9
Sav .250 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central Fla. Posts: 176	Big Brother is waiting in the wings. In stead of going after the "crooks" he wants to relieve law-biders of their guns. Ok, put them in a safe place. ' Now, the "crooks" who don`t care anyway, will have no problem robbing anybody cause all the guns are in a "safe-place." Kind of sounds like New Orleans. I`m guessing of course.

04-27-2007, 10:13 AM	#10
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,561	Scary... I ain't handin' over my guns to nobody...nohow! If they come to get em, well, let em come, but they ain't gonna get em without a fight. I'm not falling for any type of Nazi government re-hash B.S. Hey fed, see the picture to the left....please read it diligently. When you attempt to disarm Americans, there will not be an America left to defend because we will all be your enemy. Think hard about the path you choose, for it may lead you to your loss of power, income and right to make decisions. We will not sit and accept your coersion, your propaganda and your ease of power over our rights. Continue down this road of communistic sentiment and you shall see the strength of the American people here at home. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me Last edited by CrazyIvan; 04-27-2007 at 10:17 AM.

04-27-2007, 10:36 AM	#11
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,115 Blog Entries: 6	"and local checks would be made to establish that they had not been convicted of a violent crime since the last time they withdrew their weapons" well it would not be their guns any more. "The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm." let me add somthing to this.... and thousands of police officers would quit the force due to the abolishing of the second amendment, and hundreds more of these "Special police" would die in a hail of gun fire from citizens protecting their 2nd and 4th amendent rights. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

04-27-2007, 10:51 AM	#12
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	Diplomat AKA Dipstick.

04-27-2007, 10:53 AM	#13
SKS NOOB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Minnesotah Posts: 689	There is the problem. They KNOW they can't abolish the 2nd amendment. Only legistate it out of exsistence SLOWLY. Lul those of us willing to comply to contitutional sleep then crack down hard on those of us willing to stand up and defend it. It will be a civil war like nobody has ever seen and the rest of the world will see what happens when a just people stand up against an unjust government. I will not let a minority rule the majority. We have been taking this too long. That said, fight hard in the lobbies until we have to fight in the "trenches".

04-27-2007, 11:43 AM	#14
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,401 Images: 2	With Diplomats like that, no wonder the other countries hate us ! Can You say Heil Hitler ? SS / Gestapo Police without search warrants doing house to house searches...This guy is more "Radical" than us Gun owners ever seem to be. Firearms stored for hunters and Museums for the others... Mr. Simpson...Lay off the Crack and find another country to live in, we don't need people like you trying to enslave us to an all powerful Government. You sir are A COMMIE and an Idiot ! Rich (American by Birth, Gun owner by choice !!!) __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-27-2007, 12:02 PM	#15
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,912	his picture says it all, LOSER

04-27-2007, 12:59 PM	#16
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,929 Images: 9	The man's a blithering idiot My main question to him is, if you had to keep your weapons locked up out of your possession except during actual hunting season, how the !@#$ would you ever get familiar enough with them to even handle them safely, much less hit anything with them? And what about target-shooting competitions, skeet, cowboy action shooting, varmint control, etc? Not to mention how many constitutional rights would be violated by cordoning off areas for unannounced searches; where all those trained LEO's in his "special squads" would come from; etc. And he's dead wrong when he says this is "how it could be done." There are umpteen legal, moral and practical reasons why it not only won't be done, but couldn't be done that way, starting with a Constitution that bars unreasonable search and seizure. __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr Last edited by troy2000; 04-27-2007 at 06:39 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-27-2007, 07:19 PM	#17
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,359	Who wants to bet that eventually when Mr. Hunter decides he wants to hunt, the official guardians of 'his' deer rifle decides that traffic ticket he got three years ago is reason to take his gun-owning rights from him. Lost his job due to company down-sizing . . . uh oh, he's 'unreliable' and can't be trusted with a gun. The ways to abuse such a very bad law would be manifold. I'll say it again - having Politicians make gun laws is like having a diesel mechanic do your open-heart surgery. He doesn't know what he's doing and he'll get you killed! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

04-28-2007, 11:38 AM	#20
troylaplante Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Selma, NC Posts: 2,223	My issue is not so much with what the man wrote as with some of the comments from y'all. First, this author is not an idiot. He is actually brilliant. He knows what it will really take to have true gun control and the elimination of private ownership rights in this nation. He is "spot on". The realization of the magnitude of the undertaking of this task and its complexity as well as methodology is not idiocy. It is brilliance. Unfortunately, it is that sort of brilliance that we face as gun owners. I didn't read anywhere in the column where the author advocated such gun control, he just wrote about the scope of what it would take to make it happen, and about that he is correct. Whether he actually does endorse such measures, however, is not certain. He very well may personally hold that belief. It just isn't in that column.