sks rifle and the assault weapons ban??

tommy · 05-11-2007, 10:03 PM

i was reading in the assault weapond ban about the sks and i think they have it worded that it will be still legal to buy after the ban if they pass it . because it doesn't have a detachable mag. am i right??

Full MeTal Jack · 05-11-2007, 10:51 PM

Tommy, please, add a link to the source you are referring to. Thanks FMJ

tommy · 05-11-2007, 11:27 PM

i copied a section of the proposed assualt weapons ban ans it says sks with detachable clip but if you buy it with a fixed clip witch they all come with that will still be legal right??? so all you really have to do is stock up on the detachable mags for the sks . because the way i read it is theyjust are clasifiying the asault weapon as a gun with the detachabe mag. and they name the "sks with detachable magazine" in specific they don't say sks with detachable magazine and fixed magazine. here is a full reading of the assualt weapons ban.

GovTrack: H.R. 1022: Text of Legislation

SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS.

(a) In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows:

`(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following:

`(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:

`(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR;

`(ii) AR-10;

`(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR;

`(iv) AR70;

`(v) Calico Liberty;

`(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU;

`(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC;

`(viii) Hi-Point Carbine;

`(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1;

`(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;

`(xi) M1 Carbine;

`(xii) Saiga;

`(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800;

`(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine;

`(xv) SLG 95;

`(xvi) SLR 95 or 96;

`(xvii) Steyr AUG;

`(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14;

`(xix) Tavor;

`(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or

`(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz).

`(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof:

`(i) Calico M-110;

`(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3;

`(iii) Olympic Arms OA;

`(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or

`(v) Uzi.

`(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof:

`(i) Armscor 30 BG;

`(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12;

`(iii) Striker 12; or

`(iv) Streetsweeper.

`(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--

Full MeTal Jack · 05-12-2007, 09:11 PM

everyone stock up on the M1 Garands

Why not be honest, the Second Amendment is only about hunting.

Good read Tommy

Govtrack.us is an awesome site. All you GnGers save the site in your favorites.+

Bravo · 05-12-2007, 10:04 PM

Goodness ... Why the heck do they label the M1 Carbine as an "Assault Weapon". The gun barely brings down small deer, and if they're going off on the high-cap mag, then they might as well call my ruger 10/22 an assault weapon as well!!!

troy2000 · 05-13-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravo

Goodness ... Why the heck do they label the M1 Carbine as an "Assault Weapon". The gun barely brings down small deer, and if they're going off on the high-cap mag, then they might as well call my ruger 10/22 an assault weapon as well!!!

All someone has to do is remind them that Bobby Kennedy was killed with a .22, and they'll be off and running.

Rave · 05-13-2007, 02:47 PM

NOW you done it!

Bravo · 05-13-2007, 05:51 PM

RFK was killed with a .22 revolver...if they ban .22 revolvers and up, we'll have nothing left to shoot. Heck, there are pellet rifles now that fire faster than a .22 revolver

just_a_car · 05-13-2007, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy2000

All someone has to do is remind them that Bobby Kennedy was killed with a .22, and they'll be off and running.

*beats you around the head*

Dang, like they need more things to do!

troy2000 · 05-13-2007, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo

RFK was killed with a .22 revolver...if they ban .22 revolvers and up, we'll have nothing left to shoot. Heck, there are pellet rifles now that fire faster than a .22 revolver

Well yeah...that's what they're working toward.

Bravo · 05-13-2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy2000

Well yeah...that's what they're working toward.

BattleRifleG3 · 05-14-2007, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo

then they might as well call my ruger 10/22 an assault weapon as well!!!

That's exactly what they do in HR 1022.
Stop talking like this ban is a foregone conclusion. Make it clear that you won't stand for it, and that you will vote, speak, and use your funds accordingly.

ArkansasHunter · 05-14-2007, 12:54 PM

I just read all that, that tommy posted and to me thats the biggest joke I've ever read. Just because the firearms listed (I guess) look frightening to a handful of anti-gun turds. They want to ban them, there really no different than my hunting guns other than the shape of them and maybe the amount of ammo they hold.
The last entry on the list really concerns me, any semiauto with detachable clip...Men and Ladys we needs to write our sens & cons today
to fight this. Next thing it will be bolt-action rifles...A.H

JoeLee · 05-14-2007, 01:06 PM

The Semi's are about to metamorphose into machine-guns, as the media has been labeling them for years,and some States consider them now.

tommy · 05-14-2007, 03:43 PM

well look at it this way if they do ban the guns they want this round next they will have a whole diferent kinda muder to investigate. instead of them useing handguns they will get themselvs a nice high powered rifle and hit the guy from 800 yrds away and the peopl will never be able to give a plate number or desciption of the shooter because they will never know who he was ore where he was. all they will know was the guy standing next to him's chest suddenly exploded .or his head blossomed out like a big red flower in the spring time only not really as nice to look at.lol

JoeLee · 05-14-2007, 03:53 PM

Now that's the Big 50 they're looking to ban,you can hit the Moon with that one,so say some.

TexasD · 12-27-2007, 03:30 AM

A friend of mine who says he has read the full version of HR1022 says it gives him the impression that it could be "interpeted at will" to mean any firearm that holds more that a single round of ammo. If that is true it would be the same as the Austrailians have to live with since their law passed a few years ago.

Big Dog · 12-27-2007, 05:13 AM

Just remember - Gun Control isn't about the guns - it's all about CONTROL.
If we back off and give them an inch, they'll take the whole nine yards!
Vote smart - and lets put these Gun Grabbers in the unemployment line.
Let them know that passing this bill or any other similar is a ticket to that line.

samuel · 12-27-2007, 05:56 AM

Altho all gun control is unconstitutional,the federal laws arent near as frightening to me as state and local.They slip past the second ammendment,mainly because everyone is watching federal,but seldom pay attention to state/local until it is passed and then once passed the people cant get it reversed.So you may easily defeat federal laws and claim a big victoty,only to find according to fed.law you can do or posess something but not in the state you live in.Witness:New York,Illinoise,Colorado,California,Hawaii.And others. sam.

BloodRedStratus · 12-27-2007, 07:34 AM

damn, looking to ban the M1. I am going to have to get me one before this ban goes into effect.

05-11-2007, 10:03 PM	#1
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,034 Images: 6	sks rifle and the assault weapons ban?? i was reading in the assault weapond ban about the sks and i think they have it worded that it will be still legal to buy after the ban if they pass it . because it doesn't have a detachable mag. am i right??

05-11-2007, 10:51 PM	#2
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,427 Images: 1	Tommy, please, add a link to the source you are referring to. Thanks FMJ __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

05-12-2007, 09:11 PM	#4
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,427 Images: 1	everyone stock up on the M1 Garands Why not be honest, the Second Amendment is only about hunting. Good read Tommy Govtrack.us is an awesome site. All you GnGers save the site in your favorites.+ __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg Last edited by Full MeTal Jack; 05-12-2007 at 09:32 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-13-2007, 02:47 PM	#7
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,877	NOW you done it! __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

05-14-2007, 03:43 PM	#15
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,034 Images: 6	well look at it this way if they do ban the guns they want this round next they will have a whole diferent kinda muder to investigate. instead of them useing handguns they will get themselvs a nice high powered rifle and hit the guy from 800 yrds away and the peopl will never be able to give a plate number or desciption of the shooter because they will never know who he was ore where he was. all they will know was the guy standing next to him's chest suddenly exploded .or his head blossomed out like a big red flower in the spring time only not really as nice to look at.lol Last edited by tommy; 05-14-2007 at 10:34 PM.

05-11-2007, 11:27 PM	#3
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,034 Images: 6	i copied a section of the proposed assualt weapons ban ans it says sks with detachable clip but if you buy it with a fixed clip witch they all come with that will still be legal right??? so all you really have to do is stock up on the detachable mags for the sks . because the way i read it is theyjust are clasifiying the asault weapon as a gun with the detachabe mag. and they name the "sks with detachable magazine" in specific they don't say sks with detachable magazine and fixed magazine. here is a full reading of the assualt weapons ban. GovTrack: H.R. 1022: Text of Legislation SEC. 3. DEFINITIONS. (a) In General- Section 921(a)(30) of title 18, United States Code, as added by section 2(a) of this Act, is amended to read as follows: `(30) The term `semiautomatic assault weapon' means any of the following: `(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47, AK-74, ARM, MAK90, Misr, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; `(ii) AR-10; `(iii) AR-15, Bushmaster XM15, Armalite M15, or Olympic Arms PCR; `(iv) AR70; `(v) Calico Liberty; `(vi) Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU; `(vii) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FNC; `(viii) Hi-Point Carbine; `(ix) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, or HK-PSG-1; `(x) Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; `(xi) M1 Carbine; `(xii) Saiga; `(xiii) SAR-8, SAR-4800; `(xiv) SKS with detachable magazine; `(xv) SLG 95; `(xvi) SLR 95 or 96; `(xvii) Steyr AUG; `(xviii) Sturm, Ruger Mini-14; `(xix) Tavor; `(xx) Thompson 1927, Thompson M1, or Thompson 1927 Commando; or `(xxi) Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle (Galatz). `(B) The following pistols or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) Calico M-110; `(ii) MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3; `(iii) Olympic Arms OA; `(iv) TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10; or `(v) Uzi. `(C) The following shotguns or copies or duplicates thereof: `(i) Armscor 30 BG; `(ii) SPAS 12 or LAW 12; `(iii) Striker 12; or `(iv) Streetsweeper. `(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--

05-12-2007, 10:04 PM	#5
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	Goodness ... Why the heck do they label the M1 Carbine as an "Assault Weapon". The gun barely brings down small deer, and if they're going off on the high-cap mag, then they might as well call my ruger 10/22 an assault weapon as well!!!

05-13-2007, 05:51 PM	#8
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,897	RFK was killed with a .22 revolver...if they ban .22 revolvers and up, we'll have nothing left to shoot. Heck, there are pellet rifles now that fire faster than a .22 revolver

05-14-2007, 12:54 PM	#13
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,711	I just read all that, that tommy posted and to me thats the biggest joke I've ever read. Just because the firearms listed (I guess) look frightening to a handful of anti-gun turds. They want to ban them, there really no different than my hunting guns other than the shape of them and maybe the amount of ammo they hold. The last entry on the list really concerns me, any semiauto with detachable clip...Men and Ladys we needs to write our sens & cons today to fight this. Next thing it will be bolt-action rifles...A.H

05-14-2007, 01:06 PM	#14
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	The Semi's are about to metamorphose into machine-guns, as the media has been labeling them for years,and some States consider them now.

05-14-2007, 03:53 PM	#16
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	Now that's the Big 50 they're looking to ban,you can hit the Moon with that one,so say some.

12-27-2007, 03:30 AM	#17
TexasD Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Texas Posts: 68	A friend of mine who says he has read the full version of HR1022 says it gives him the impression that it could be "interpeted at will" to mean any firearm that holds more that a single round of ammo. If that is true it would be the same as the Austrailians have to live with since their law passed a few years ago.

12-27-2007, 05:13 AM	#18
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,219	Just remember - Gun Control isn't about the guns - it's all about CONTROL. If we back off and give them an inch, they'll take the whole nine yards! Vote smart - and lets put these Gun Grabbers in the unemployment line. Let them know that passing this bill or any other similar is a ticket to that line. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-27-2007, 05:56 AM	#19
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	Altho all gun control is unconstitutional,the federal laws arent near as frightening to me as state and local.They slip past the second ammendment,mainly because everyone is watching federal,but seldom pay attention to state/local until it is passed and then once passed the people cant get it reversed.So you may easily defeat federal laws and claim a big victoty,only to find according to fed.law you can do or posess something but not in the state you live in.Witness:New York,Illinoise,Colorado,California,Hawaii.And others. sam.

12-27-2007, 07:34 AM	#20
BloodRedStratus Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Westerville, Ohio Posts: 226	damn, looking to ban the M1. I am going to have to get me one before this ban goes into effect.