Old 05-18-2007, 10:23 AM   #1
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Virginia County Gun Rights Group Holds 'Bloomberg Gun Giveaway'

Intersting story from FOXNews.com - Virginia County Gun Rights Group Holds 'Bloomberg Gun Giveaway' - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum .

{ANNANDALE, Va. . — More than 200 firearms enthusiasts — most of them openly armed — packed a normally sedate government building Thursday night, hoping to win a pistol or rifle and at the same time send a defiant message to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and other gun-control advocates.

The Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun-rights group, organized the "Bloomberg Gun Giveaway" in large part to thumb its nose at New York's mayor. Bloomberg drew gun owners' ire by launching a series of out-of-state stings against gun shops suspected of allowing illegal straw purchases of firearms.

Two guns were awarded, a Para-Ordnance pistol and a Varmint Stalker rifle, each worth about $900. The winners did not immediately receive the weapons — they will still be required to undergo federal and state background checks.

The first winner, Jay Minsky of Fairfax, responded with an obscene hand gesture when asked what message he hoped to send to Bloomberg.

"If he doesn't like people in New York having guns, he should deal with New York," said Minsky, who grew up in Brooklyn. "Just keep out of Virginia."

The event drew an overflow crowd at a Fairfax County government building, with the fire marshal aggressively enforcing an occupancy limit of 150 for the meeting hall. Others stood outside and peered in through open windows.

The event also drew protests from gun-control advocates and the parents of those killed in last month's shootings at Virginia Tech.

Peter and Cathy Read of Annandale, whose daughter Mary was one of those killed, silently held a photo of their daughter outside the building.

"We're not here to have a debate. We're here to witness for our daughter," Peter Read said. "The victims need to be witnessed to. People of the commonwealth can make intelligent decisions about what's right."

Philip Van Cleave, the league's president, said he is sympathetic to the families, but maintained that some of the deaths might have been prevented if somebody had been armed.

"We don't want another Virginia Tech," Van Cleave said.

Most of those in attendance said they were motivated not by the chance of a free gun, but to make a point to Bloomberg and express support for the Second Amendment.

"It'd be nice if I win, but that's not what this is about. It's about my constitutional right to defend myself," said Ron Stuebing of Sterling, a VCDL member.

The event had been planned for months as a fundraiser for two gun shops being sued by New York City. A raffle ticket was awarded for every $100 in purchases at the two gun shops, Bob Moates Sport Shop in Richmond and Old Dominion Gun and Tackle in Danville.

But officials said that giveaway violated state gambling laws, so the league quickly organized a new giveaway, open to anybody who showed up at its Thursday night meeting.

Most but not all in attendance carried holstered handguns. In Virginia, individuals need a permit only to carry a concealed weapon. Openly visible, holstered guns are permitted without a permit.

Anybody who showed up at Thursday's event was eligible for the drawing — except Bloomberg and his immediate family, who were explicitly excluded from the contest by VCDL organizers.

New York City officials have sued more than two dozen gun dealers from Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia in federal court. The lawsuits were filed after private investigators went into the stores with hidden cameras and simulated an illegal straw purchase — in which one person fills out the paperwork and buys the gun for somebody else.

Justice Department officials have said that the private investigators conducting the stings may have been breaking the law themselves, and that none of the gun dealers caught in the stings would face federal prosecution.

Bloomberg and Virginia Attorney General Robert McDonnell also traded barbs after McDonnell told Bloomberg the stings were unwelcome and illegal under a new Virginia law that takes effect in July.

Asked Thursday about the giveaway, Bloomberg said, "I think it's sick, is the nicest ways to phrase it."

Van Cleave responded that the members of his organization are law-abiding citizens, including many retired military, police officers and firefighters.

"If you're saying these are sick people, then I'm proud to be sick," Van Cleave said.}

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Old 05-18-2007, 10:36 AM   #2
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Go Virgina !!!
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:25 PM   #3
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I bet that makes Bloomberg see red!
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:37 PM   #4
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Good for them. Its nice to see this get attention.
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:51 PM   #5
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"New York City officials have sued more than two dozen gun dealers from Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia in federal court. The lawsuits were filed after private investigators went into the stores with hidden cameras and simulated an illegal straw purchase — in which one person fills out the paperwork and buys the gun for somebody else."

I'd like to see those private investigators try that again, except this time brag about the purchase like this "o yeah gettin this gun for my bud, he's gonna robb some banks and kill some cops with it!!"

I guarantee you, that if a pi said that he would be held at gun point and have to wait for the cops to arrive to question him.

o yeah and, Go Virgina up hold your gun rights!!!!!!!
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:51 PM   #6
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He should be called "BloomingIDIOTBerg" !
Way to go Virginia Citizens !
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:23 PM   #7
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How do you "simulate" a straw buy? Particularly if you're a private investigator from out of state, rather than part of a legal sting by duly constituted authority in the State of Virginia?

It annoys me that because some dealers settled, probably because they just didn't have the money to fight against the resources Bloomberg was willing to throw at them, he uses it as "proof" that everyone's guilty.

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Old 05-18-2007, 10:34 PM   #8
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Well Troy the short answer is you don't, a better question to ask is when is the Virginia Commonwealths Attorney is going to file charges against the PI's and , I'll repeat it so everyone understands AND BLOOMBERG and try them not only in federal court for the federal charges but also for violations of the Commonwealths statutes!

GOODONYA Virginia Gunowners... Now DEMAND your Commonwealths Attorney to do HIS job!

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Old 05-19-2007, 07:47 AM   #9
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I don't think we will ever see,Mr Billion Dollar Bloomberg face prosecution as the #1 CEO of a gunrunning operation that he was/is.

Mr Bloomberg likes to say,I take the Subway to work everyday just like the average New Yorker.

What he doesn't advertise,is he has a squad of cops with guns, accompanying him on his treck to work.

As bad as Bloomingberg is,he's not as bad as "Little Hitler Rudy Giuliani",as called by many from New York City.
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:24 PM   #10
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Is Rudy that bad? I definitely get the sense he is only pretending he won't squeeze our gun rights if he is elected.
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Is Rudy that bad? I definitely get the sense he is only pretending he won't squeeze our gun rights if he is elected.
Yes he is that bad and in true,rabidly anti/gun,like Hitler.
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